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@SMCstar: I dunno the exact formulas for everything, but 5k+ should be about enough

@FalenXangel: yeah, i forgot the monster's lvl accuracy

@OneRockGod:
Didn't notice that.
My friend got in top 19 and told me he mostly used 8 legs and penombre idk why

Get the +10k max hp and use heal to make up the difference

[quote=Magina99]Off topic: Just a question, ard how much avoid will make a char evade most of the empress atk? ^^[/quote]

This is easier to calculate on a DB because they actually have 70% Avoid Rate and 0% Dodge Rate.

If all 3 avoid skills are maxed, you'd need a base Avoid Rate of 59% minimum to evade all her attacks (except ones that deal status effects).

So I think 7225 Avoid at level 190 would ensure complete misses. A lower level would have their Avoid Rate reduced severely unless they have an insane amount of % LUK to negate the loss.

@TS: Jump attack to evade. Shroud Walk should also work I believe.

You could always jump to avoid it.

@Magina99: that's basically what I have, even with potential lock I can avoid all of Empress' attacks

There is something called ducking the blast

@Magina99: I haven't a clue, I personally have ~8k avoid and I avoid most (if not all) of Empress' attacks, so I would say 6k should be sufficient

[quote=David0696]a certain db i know doesnt have to dodge hits. nothing hits him. empress doesnt even hit him o_o appearently the sterotypical thief is supposed to have the monster miss on them instead of trying to run away

OT: i doubt ure going to dojo on a level 30. what job r u dojoing on?[/quote]

even when empress reduces me to 2k avoid using potential lock, she is able to land a hit once out of every 100 or so tries. (aka VERY RARELY)

lol it's great being a db. If you take damage at all, it's like OMGOSHWTFBBQ.

Shroud Walk. I have MG on sometimes.

[quote=Blazons]4k+ is godmode. I have about 4.1k avoid and never get hit by anything.[/quote]

mind testing it out at Empress (if you haven't already done so)?

I was confused because the thread name is Dojo, and you were talking about the giant whale Dodo. :

um... jump?
if shroud walk works in dojo, you could use that.

@SMCstar: doesn't really work like that... it also depends on the monster's level and accuracy... iirc, guildie of mine had ~3k and still (barely) got hit at czak

dont avoid it! block it with a shield.

Mano familiar.

@FalenXangel: eh, just wanna confirm when I'll be able to have 100% dodge, I WANNA SEE THOSE MISSES! xD
I hope its around 100 = 1% dodge, so that 3k+ will give me god mode

@SMCstar: it's somewhere around that, it's just hilarious to test it out

push him against the wall and walk to opposite direction till your at RFs max distance and hit him from there. iirc his attacks dont travel that far.

Use powerguard to cut the dmg by half and pray for a drain card.

[quote=FalenXangel]@dfh: DBs have 70% dodge, phantoms have less

@David0696: Any DB with at least 5k or so avoid should have mob godmode by dodging everything... only thing that can piss us off are stuns, seduce, and those other various status effects[/quote]

I'd say 4k+ avoid, because I saw a video with a lvl18x db with around 4k avoid getting tons of misses in ht o.o

[quote=FalenXangel]@dfh: DBs have 70% dodge, phantoms have less

@David0696: Any DB with at least 5k or so avoid should have mob godmode by dodging everything... only thing that can piss us off are stuns, seduce, and those other various status effects[/quote]

^This
I got only hit once through all dojo at Mu Gong.
And I always get touched by the bosses on dojo to get more criticals

@dfh: DBs have 70% dodge, phantoms have less

@David0696: Any DB with at least 5k or so avoid should have mob godmode by dodging everything... only thing that can piss us off are stuns, seduce, and those other various status effects

a certain db i know doesnt have to dodge hits. nothing hits him. empress doesnt even hit him o_o appearently the sterotypical thief is supposed to have the monster miss on them instead of trying to run away

OT: i doubt ure going to dojo on a level 30. what job r u dojoing on?

@FalenXangel: if they have it, i don't see why he's asking that question.

[quote=dfh]yes, you can avoid being hit by timing your jumping... now if that was too hard to figure, you probably got the wrong class... thieves were meant to be fast to dodge hits, not to just spam a key and survive anything, why don't you make a Paladin? lol[/quote]

you mean like how DBs have mob godmode?

yes, you can avoid being hit by timing your jumping... now if that was too hard to figure, you probably got the wrong class... thieves were meant to be fast to dodge hits, not to just spam a key and survive anything, why don't you make a Paladin? lol

jump
lol

Basically What the First guy said, Flash jump away, Can't spam

runnnn!