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@Aiacu Adventurer changes haven't even made it into the main server yet. If it's still in KMSt, I'm going to disregard it.

@kiue What are you arguing? I'm saying that Phantoms with Shadow Partner would have increased damage, and deserve it, or at least, a better 1v1 (possibly akin to revamped Wind Archer's Sky's Song, which is granted additional damage when only hitting one target).

[quote=Anthoy84]Considering that we'd be losing Combo Attack and Phantom's pitiful 1v1 DPS, it wouldn't even be that overpowered.[/quote]

Wrong, if we can steal SP, SP> Combo Attack. And also if you want Combo Attack, you can always use that skill in the 4th job adv. Memory. Our memory let us use lower level requirement as long as the Memory is at the same or higher adv.

[quote=LuxSolis]Phantoms deserve Shadow Partner, it would do all kinds of wonders like doubling the speed of stacking cards and using Judgement draw and justify the low % damage.[/quote]

then skill % will need to be deducted. SP % is already built in to your skills. If nexon was going to put SP for Phantom then your main 4th job skill would probably only hit once anyway so it will be the same

[quote=Anthoy84]Considering that we'd be losing Combo Attack and Phantom's pitiful 1v1 DPS, it wouldn't even be that overpowered.[/quote]

Well, we GAIN Crossover Chain, which is 100% damage at 100% HP. Screw Combo Attack.

Phantoms deserve Shadow Partner, it would do all kinds of wonders like doubling the speed of stacking cards and using Judgement draw and justify the low % damage.

Our shadow partner is Carte I think thats fair since we are the only thieves that have a hurricane-like skill, that mobs.

Good riddance, seems fair to me, cause if it was steal-able, then you guys would totally OP. Mille Aiguilles + SP + Carte Noir ? nty

SP counts as a summon (hence the reason why summoning rocks used to be a requirement). Phantoms can't steal summons or passives.

[quote=NotMyGear]-imagines milles hitting 4 lines-
No.[/quote]

Well deserved buff imo, they have a horrendous 3rd job since they don't get that power spike that other thieves get via shadow partner, mirror image, etc..

[quote=NotMyGear]-imagines milles hitting 4 lines-
No.[/quote]

Considering that we'd be losing Combo Attack and Phantom's pitiful 1v1 DPS, it wouldn't even be that overpowered.

Looking at the number of hits and speed of each skill, it seems, and feels as if, Shadow Partner was '' permanently implemented '' in all of our skills already. I just wished we could have the cool effect of SP or a variation of the latter.

-imagines milles hitting 4 lines-
No.

[quote=d3eath4ng3elx]cant steal passive or summons [/quote]

This guys correct SP is a summon

phantom doesn't have shadow partner because it pretty much built in to the skill already. If you were to have shadow partner, skill % will need to be reduced.

cant steal passive or summons