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I met a girl who I really like.
However she is a Mormon and I am a Satanist.
Naturally her parents don't want us to be a thing.
I want us to be a thing because we share common interest; besides our beliefs.
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So tell me forum what should I do?
By the way I cannot convert to Mormonism.

February 2, 2014

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JeIIal

[quote=Nashi]@JeIIal: If she's unsure don't persuade her. If you talk her into something she's not fully comfortable with she will be miserable. Would you want that?
Do you want her solely for your own sake? Shouldn't you want her happy and comfortable?
Plus if she doesn't sincerely like you to begin with (as in, enough to stand againt her parents) then what's the point of it anyway? Why put both of you through it when it will just fail anyway?

2 weeks isn't a long time. You don't know each other well enough and having your partner's parents against you is never a fun thing to deal with. I don't know how it is to be flat out disliked by the other party's parents but I do know how it is when there's a weird/bad/awkward mood, it's really stressful and can burden the relationship in a nasty way.

Plus, you may accept each other's beliefs now, but in case you intend this to be a longterm/permanent relationship you may have to consider what could be further.
It's easy to talk about it - but what about daily life? If you ever life together, would you still be fine? Can you truly be comfortable with someone who doesn't have the same beliefs? (it may be fine now since you're probs head over heels with her but that will dull down in max a year and if you two haven't managed to settle everything yet it'll break apart, IF it even lasts that long.)

Also: Stupid move to be honest? No. So you think it would have been better to lie? And would you have wanted to keep that lie up forever? What if they would have wanted to include you in their belief (like celebrate with you and all or ask you about it) and all? A lie like that can never be kept a secret forever and it would have been a REALLY stupid move to lie to them and then have them find out. THEN they TRULY have a reason to dislike you. I wouldn't want a liar as partner for my future daughter/son/child either.[/quote]

We are currently dating. ATM she doesn't seem keen on Mormonism anymore.

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Nashi

@JeIIal: If she's unsure don't persuade her. If you talk her into something she's not fully comfortable with she will be miserable. Would you want that?
Do you want her solely for your own sake? Shouldn't you want her happy and comfortable?
Plus if she doesn't sincerely like you to begin with (as in, enough to stand againt her parents) then what's the point of it anyway? Why put both of you through it when it will just fail anyway?

2 weeks isn't a long time. You don't know each other well enough and having your partner's parents against you is never a fun thing to deal with. I don't know how it is to be flat out disliked by the other party's parents but I do know how it is when there's a weird/bad/awkward mood, it's really stressful and can burden the relationship in a nasty way.

Plus, you may accept each other's beliefs now, but in case you intend this to be a longterm/permanent relationship you may have to consider what could be further.
It's easy to talk about it - but what about daily life? If you ever life together, would you still be fine? Can you truly be comfortable with someone who doesn't have the same beliefs? (it may be fine now since you're probs head over heels with her but that will dull down in max a year and if you two haven't managed to settle everything yet it'll break apart, IF it even lasts that long.)

Also: Stupid move to be honest? No. So you think it would have been better to lie? And would you have wanted to keep that lie up forever? What if they would have wanted to include you in their belief (like celebrate with you and all or ask you about it) and all? A lie like that can never be kept a secret forever and it would have been a REALLY stupid move to lie to them and then have them find out. THEN they TRULY have a reason to dislike you. I wouldn't want a liar as partner for my future daughter/son/child either.

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JeIIal

[quote=CaffeLatte]Make sure to take her to a dark wood with torches and sacrifice her virgin body so her soul will be renewed as a satanism.[/quote]

Thank you for your kind advice.
I meet her tonight and things escalated, I took her virginity.
I wonder how her dad will react consider I took the innocence of his beloved daughter.
I also had the chance to "play around" with his wife as well.

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JeIIal

[quote=CaffeLatte]Go for it tiger![/quote]

I want to play with her body. I know God will guide me to do that.

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JeIIal

[quote=CaffeLatte]I never said atheism. Okay, what is satanism?
I have and it's stay away from her.[/quote]

The Satanism I believe in is in short atheism.

I will not stay away from her.

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JeIIal

[quote=CaffeLatte]Lol, I love the hypocrisy of anti christians/jesus/god or w/e.
Hey, give me your opinion on what satanism is even about.[/quote]

Atheism? I am part of the Church of Satan.

Why aren't you giving me helpful advice?

@Dispraise I known her for 1 month. Been talking to her daily for 2 weeks.

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JeIIal

[quote=trashed]@Keane: on a scale of 1 to america, how free are you tonight?[/quote]

Please take your escort services outside my thread.

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trashed

@Keane: on a scale of 1 to america, how free are you tonight?

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JeIIal

[quote=CaffeLatte]Don't try to stray her away from her religion. You probably will want sex before marriage also and slowly have her stray away from her religion. Whether god is real or not, mormons are the nicest/purest people I've met. They are very dedicatted to their religion and have high moral.[/quote]

You don't understand the strange chemistry we have with each other. If I have to let her stray from her religion then so be it.
I do agree that Mormons are very nice.
I want us to be in a relationship.

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JeIIal

I really like Mormons because the girls are raised as a good mother and wife. Then they are introduced to men as a formality known as marriage.

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SoulBlade

@JeIIal:
Good Luck

[quote=trashed]these comments remind me why i always come on this site for relationship advice[/quote]
Are you being sarcastic?

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trashed

these comments remind me why i always come on this site for relationship advice

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JeIIal

[quote=SoulBlade]It would be better if you two were the same religion, because contradicting beliefs could become a problem later on. Whether or not you should be concerned about it depends on how much religion plays a role in both of your lives.
If her parents are really adamant on having their daughter with another Mormon, I doubt they'll ever accept you.[/quote]

Her parents will like if the other persons religion is somewhere in the Christianity branch. To them I guess is there minim acceptance.
I feel we should keep this away from her parents. Before she didn't want to persuade the relationship; however over time I got her to think
that we should keep this from her parents.
The only I worry about is if we get married. She wants a traditional marriage which means me asking her dad's approval and his acceptance.
I tried to persuade the mom since she is a submissive wife/mother; but her dad has the most power.

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SoulBlade

It would be better if you two were the same religion, because contradicting beliefs could become a problem later on. Whether or not you should be concerned about it depends on how much religion plays a role in both of your lives.
If her parents are really adamant on having their daughter with another Mormon, I doubt they'll ever accept you.

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JeIIal

[quote=Nashi]Nobody can tell you. It strongly depends on her parents (how they react/act), on you (how you can deal with her belief/her parents) and her (how she can deal with your belief/her parents's disapproval). None of us can know.
What about her? Do you know if she believes in such a relationship?
How strongly do you two believe? If your beliefs crash in everyday life it may summon longterm/unfixable issues that you won't be able to overcome (especially case given that either of you cares about religion more than the partner. That is possible too.)

What you "should" do is up to you. What you CAN do is either have a light conversation with her about how she feels/what she thinks about relationships - and especially relationships with partners that have different beliefs - and how her parents may see it etc or you can be straight ahead, tell her how you feel and ask her how/if this can proceed.
Nobody but you and her (+her knowledge about her parents) know the best how far this can get.[/quote]

Her parents don't like me. They said I need to be a Mormon, which you may know is not a option.
She is unsure what to do because she wants a relationship where her parents would approve yet at the same time she believes we can work. I want to influence her decision so she chooses to forward the relationship.
I am open minded so when we talk about what we believe in; we don't clash. We have been talking for about 2 weeks.

[quote=Keane]Just pretend your a Mormon.[/quote]

Too late, I already told them my beliefs. Stupid move I know.

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Nashi

Nobody can tell you. It strongly depends on her parents (how they react/act), on you (how you can deal with her belief/her parents) and her (how she can deal with your belief/her parents's disapproval). None of us can know.
What about her? Do you know if she believes in such a relationship?
How strongly do you two believe? If your beliefs crash in everyday life it may summon longterm/unfixable issues that you won't be able to overcome (especially case given that either of you cares about religion more than the partner. That is possible too.)

What you "should" do is up to you. What you CAN do is either have a light conversation with her about how she feels/what she thinks about relationships - and especially relationships with partners that have different beliefs - and how her parents may see it etc or you can be straight ahead, tell her how you feel and ask her how/if this can proceed.
Nobody but you and her (+her knowledge about her parents) know the best how far this can get.

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Zoneflare4

Well Mormons are born dead on the inside so it can work

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