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Boss Dmg Vs. Magic/Total Dmg

I have around 285% boss dmg, and I was wondering if I should lose my shield that has 85% boss dmg and switch it to a shield with % magic/Total Dmg %? I heard somewhere after 200% bossdmg magic % /Total % becomes better. can anyone clarify? thank you .

October 5, 2013

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Green4EVER

[quote=HorrorFilms]Kewra , if you have funds, use memory cubes to remove that 9% critical. maybe get some total damage % or another magic atk 9% or 12%.[/quote]

I don't think you understand how Memory Cubes work.
Memory Cubes reset the entire potential (so all 3 lines), and if you don't like the result, you can revert back to the potential you had before using the cube.
If he wanted to go for 3 perfect lines he'd be better off just spamming Super Miracle Cubes. I'd just stick to what he has; 65% Boss by itself is already good, the 9% Critical is just a bonus, and since he wasn't at 100% Critical Rate before having it, it's still beneficial to him.

Reply November 7, 2013 - edited
HorrorFilms

@FathomSin Kewra , if you have funds, use memory cubes to remove that 9% critical. maybe get some total damage % or another magic atk 9% or 12%.

Edit: you can try cubing with memory cubes and try to get even better on your 3 lines but it would probably cost a lot to get more than what you already have

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Green4EVER

[quote=archusz]why?[/quote]

Because Total Damage sucks in comparison to % Boss/% M.Att and % Critical Rate can be obtained through other means and isn't worth giving up the potential lines for.

Reply November 6, 2013 - edited
king2123

[quote=FathomSin]I would like to know this too
recently cubed 18% matk to 65% boss 9% crit and wondering if I should go back to % matk/total[/quote]

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archusz

go for total damage and critical

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GoXDS

@xHolySpectra not quite. if the player has a bunch of %Boss, which does not show up in the range, %matk will raise the player's range the exact same, no matter how much %Boss the player has. the [i]damage[/i], however, will increase much more from increased %matk as %Boss gets higher (when fighting Bosses obviously)

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xHolySpectra

HUEHUEHUE, according to what ive heard, the more % boss and %total damage you have, the more att % and matt% will increase you're range! omg im so smart, and im feeling so high right now :O

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FathomSin

[quote=Dogs]@FathomSin: I'd say it's more worth it to recube your orb for %Magic ATT, considering the potential isnt as good as your weapon's. Or you could just get another orb and cube that one for %magic ATT and keep this one for bossing? It'd be painful to see that 65% boss be recubed... o.o[/quote]

yeah fair enough, I guess i'll keep it
gonna cube the bonus pot on orb first!

OT: what's the bonus pot on your weps? :o you could try getting % matk on them too

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Dogs

@FathomSin: I'd say it's more worth it to recube your orb for %Magic ATT, considering the potential isnt as good as your weapon's. Or you could just get another orb and cube that one for %magic ATT and keep this one for bossing? It'd be painful to see that 65% boss be recubed... o.o

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FathomSin

@GoXDS: atm with the 65% boss i have 279% boss+total
my % matk is 9%
so definitely very imbalanced there

[quote=Dogs]I'd stick with the %boss if I were you. 65% is a pretty rare potential. They'll probably give the rest of the classes emblems at some point in the future, which can get %ATT but not %boss[/quote]

that's true, but not sure I can wait for the chance of that hehe

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DemoDango

@GoXDS: Hmm. Makes sense, then.
[I really don't like thaaaaaaaaaaat]

Reply October 5, 2013 - edited
GoXDS

@DemoDango: that's just how it is. think of it this way. %Boss is %total dmg that only activates against bosses.
to to illustrate what I mean, if you had 30% total dmg and 100% Boss, against a normal monster, your dmg is 1.3x. against a Boss, it's NOT 1.3*2 = 2.6x. it's 2.3x.

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DemoDango

@GoXDS: Why would total and boss% stack additively? That doesn't make sense.

@jross21: You'll want the %matk shield, generally. Your %boss is already obscenely high.

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Dogs

[quote=FathomSin]I would like to know this too
recently cubed 18% matk to 65% boss 9% crit and wondering if I should go back to % matk/total[/quote]
I'd stick with the %boss if I were you. 65% is a pretty rare potential. They'll probably give the rest of the classes emblems at some point in the future, which can get %ATT but not %boss

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jross21

I'll probably just leave my stuff as it is and cube an emblem in RED, for now ill just get % mag on bonus pot.

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Green4EVER

Don't forget that we get Emblems in the RED patch, which isn't too far off. I would aim for % M.Att on that and leave everything else alone.

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GoXDS

total dmg is NEVER better than %Boss EVER (since they stack additively on each other, total and boss are basically the same thing)
question: is that 285% including the shield? if so, taking base as 200% Boss (and I'll assume AA to be multiplicative. I've done testing before but forgot what my result was)
85% Boss would be 3x (200%) -> 3.85x = 28.33% increase. assuming you have 0% matk, you'll need 30% matk on that new shield to get better
if that's 285% without the Shield, 3.85x -> 4.7x = 22.08% increase, so you'd need 24% matk minimum

let's assume AA acts as total dmg. case 1 was 200%, which is now 240%. adding 85% is 25% boost so 27% matk minimum
case 2 was 285%, now 325%, so 85% is a 20% increase, so 21% matk minimum

but uh, just noticed your follow up post.
200% -> 285% = 28.33% vs (200% -> 225%)*21% = 31.0833%. as you could see from my other calcs, any other situation has %Boss worth less and less so yes, switching is definitely your answer @jross21 but remember, if you have other sources of %matk, this could change

@FathomSin
depends on your total %Boss+%total and your total %matk

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FathomSin

I would like to know this too
recently cubed 18% matk to 65% boss 9% crit and wondering if I should go back to % matk/total

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jross21

I have the funding for it ^^ But I want to know what is better for bossing the 85% boss or the 25% boss neb + 21% magic attack / Total Dmg shield?

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wasp3

y not have both shields and switch each shield whenever your bossing?

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wizardq

After a certain amount, %magic is better. Since % Boss is additive, adding 30% boss to someone with 200% boss wont actually boost their damage by 30%. At this point a line of 12% Magic would be better.

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