Phantom and the thieves So I recently came back to maple after a 6-8 month break. I am having to start all over because of stupid hackers so I will be unfunded-medium funded. Wondering why do people say phantoms are not that good. Which thief out of phantom, shad, DB (I know can't make db now, will in the future) would be best for my meso range. I like fast toons. With fast attacks. But I don't really want to be weak. Phantom sounds awesome with all the buffs they can get from other classes especially HS. Because that almost guarentees a spot for LHC even if weak. Thanks for your input guys.