Are Dual blades still considered overpowered?
Hey Basil, I really wanted to make a DB as of late and basically was wondering 2 things. Are they still considered OP, have they more or less mellowed down now with nerfs and adjustments, and will you be able to make them again following Justice? Personally I prefer if they were not as OP as when they first were before BB. Thanks everyone.
June 17, 2012
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[quote=WeaselPopPills]They're better than many classes in terms of bossing because they have two weapons for %boss and PDR as well as high avoid. Aside from that factor, they're relatively weak and you need heavy funding to go far mostly because they haven't received a revamp while so many other classes have.[/quote]
As of late, more and more classes are getting secondary weapon with potential, such as demon slayer and his force shield or mercedes with her magic arrow or phantom with his card and mechanic is gonna get his very own secondary weapon soon as well.
thiefs in general are not suppose to be op were suppose to be the agile type
[quote=rico19960209]i should make a bera character just to see how you can train without using any buffs
should be pretty interesting
@ddsushi
top 3 in scania is normally all merc
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Out of the 5 mercs in windia who can beat me, 2 got hacked, 1 quit, and the other two barely play, so I get #1 gloves a lot ;D
@rico19960209: ok sure get a make a lvl 110 character and come watch me train at lhc you can watch me on thursday k
Only when Funded
My First Db was fine. I didnt spend more than 300m and he freaking outranked everyone! Idk how u spend at least 1 bil. It was prciy at first but then bam i was crafting all that junk
[quote=EnnVie]I hit max dmg on bosses (not all, empress has too much defense...) and tbh very few classes can match up to that kind of DPS, mercedes, being the only one from the top of my head atm. For example in Dojo, my demon slayer friend that hits max with basically any skill he uses, can't do it as fast as me and another dual blade in guild can, because when it comes down to hitting max, Dual blade just hit far more many times per second than almost all other classes. So as it was mentioned before, A dual blade with very large amounts of funding, is always a top contender for highest damage.
One could argue that all other classes with very large amounts of funding could also accomplish this, but its not true. Example, A Dark Knight hitting max lines is about 7 hits a second, A hero hitting max is around 6 hits per second, Evan around 8, Corsair 10, and the list goes on...But dual Blades hit 19 times per second...Only mercedes (possibly mechs) can match up to that.[/quote]
Mercedes destroy us though.
Hitting all cap with fc, and crit caps without, a Mercedes who hits 600k per arrow outdpses me ;(
@rico19960209: my point? i simply said i dont like buffs that add attack that an opinion im not trying to convince you...
your such a fail.
@rico19960209:..
idk
im speechless
your so annoying
[quote=Unfaze]Wrong.
Many classes are limited by damage cap doing a few hits only, while for example a well funded DB can do max with PB, which would outdamage almost anyone.[/quote]
dude ru crazy do u know how much funding it would take to hit max w/ pb>?
Honestly, without a ton of funding, we're kinda weak.
@rico19960209: yah i dont use any buffs at all and i also havent put any points into buffs either im just 140 ya know and since nx fixed the glitch were you cant job advance while still having sp i didnt have two. and also theres only two buffs that increase your range mw at max only adds 16% and and thorn only adds 30 att oh ya btw nice ign
@ddsushi no im not stupid if any ones stupid its you i never said anything about not being able to use crits, %boss, or att pots i simply said i dont like buffs that add attack mainly because your godly for one second and the next your weak. and also i dont plan on getting a class to hit max because i dont plan on spending 100s of dollars on this game
@Blythe: go look at his vids and you tell me what he hits
and also what was the point of your comment... you just said i think and im sure and the second part has nothing to do with my comment and also i dont know if you know this but pb copies your range so if someone has a 250k range and hits 500k's its either crits or he has 100% total damage (or something like that)
[quote=iGooglespace]@Unfaze: lol how many db's can hit max damage per phantom blow that would require a 1m range (unless you include final cut which is just a buff) the godliest db i know of is deathstarvxx and he has a 250k range with and he hits 250k-400k per hit
they have the potential but its basically impossible. (until the revamp when phantom blow does 200x instead of 105x) but still without crits of final cut its kinda impossible to hit 999,999 per hit[/quote]
Your info is false, I'm sure deathstar has over 250k range and i doubt he hits only up to 400k's on regular mobs.
Arkgain of broa has a 250k CLEAN range hiting 500k's on regular mobs.
[quote=Warbutcher]*waits for deathstar to respond*
No db's are not overpowered (except for DeathStar). It takes ALOT of funds to make your DB good. They are by far one of the most fun classes that i've played. I consider Mercedes to be the Bowman DB because they are practically the same as a DB.[/quote]
LOL that deathstar guy has too much money on his hands... he has both a merce and a db who hit max on every hit of ishtarr's ring/phantom blow. I honestly don't know how these people do it...
@imad152: not to me i dont even like buffs which is why i havent put any points into them (except for a little into thorns)
@imad152: wasn't it a crit though?
@Unfaze: lol how many db's can hit max damage per phantom blow that would require a 1m range (unless you include final cut which is just a buff) the godliest db i know of is deathstarvxx and he has a 250k range with and he hits 250k-400k per hit
they have the potential but its basically impossible. (until the revamp when phantom blow does 200x instead of 105x) but still without crits of final cut its kinda impossible to hit 999,999 per hit
No. Maybe during revamp, but db are hilariously weak and fragile without funding.
[quote=RajaAKshay]Funded DBs= Over powered
Unfunded= Completely a waste.[/quote]
this lol basically counts for all thieves
Dualblade = High Damage
Heath= Really Bad Health
Funding. 40mil per day.( if ur training and bossing and all)
I think i spend about 10bil on ma db and about 40k nx.( including skill book and stuff when it first came out)
[quote=iGooglespace]no lol any other class with the same amount of funding you put into your db would hit more(with a few exceptions)
and also dont listen to iilukdit you will lose your account or something mods plz take care of this situation [/quote]
Wrong.
Many classes are limited by damage cap doing a few hits only, while for example a well funded DB can do max with PB, which would outdamage almost anyone.
[quote=RajaAKshay]Funded DBs= Over powered
Unfunded= Completely a waste.[/quote]
what he said
A funded DB has the best dps in evry way
( dont come with ur mercedes there weaker)
Well you can't even make a db at the moment, you'll probably have to wait till maybe August?
No one really knows when revamp is
If you have funding, DBs are pretty OP.
Even with funds though, a Mercedes with my funds does ~2x my DPS.
Hitting all max on a db is about equal to 500k-600k per arrow on a merc, but required the same funding as max on a merc.
We aren't weak at all, we actually technically outdps phantoms if both jobs hit all cap on every skill.
*waits for deathstar to respond*
No db's are not overpowered (except for DeathStar). It takes ALOT of funds to make your DB good. They are by far one of the most fun classes that i've played. I consider Mercedes to be the Bowman DB because they are practically the same as a DB.
@Unfaze: no lol any other class with the same amount of funding you put into your db would hit more(with a few exceptions)
and also dont listen to iilukdit you will lose your account or something mods plz take care of this situation
Funded DBs= Over powered
Unfunded= Completely a waste.
@iGooglespace: my bad. meant this: were not powerfulI*
[quote=AlienVisitor]Make a real class instead...[/quote]
MAKE A REAL MANS CLASS LIKE MERCEDES OR A CLERIC.
We DB's are Smexy classes but OP we are not. Funding is our major need to have great dmg so far spent like 5-6 bil or so on my DB and he only havs 35k Buffed
They're better than many classes in terms of bossing because they have two weapons for %boss and PDR as well as high avoid. Aside from that factor, they're relatively weak and you need heavy funding to go far mostly because they haven't received a revamp while so many other classes have.
[quote=iGooglespace]see thats the thing i never understood how can you be op with a ton of funding if i spent 10b on my db and had a 50k range i wouldnt be op because if any other class spent 10b on their character they would easily outdamage me. so no were not op were extremely weak w/o funds. funds make us average or a little below average but we are a smexy class[/quote]
That's the price you pay. DB is one of the best jobs, if not the best [b]with[/b] max funding.
[quote=tips1660]unfortunately, flashy!=OP. were not op w/o a ton of funding[/quote]
see thats the thing i never understood how can you be op with a ton of funding if i spent 10b on my db and had a 50k range i wouldnt be op because if any other class spent 10b on their character they would easily outdamage me. so no were not op were extremely weak w/o funds. funds make us average or a little below average but we are a smexy class
unfortunately, flashy!=OP. were not op w/o a ton of funding