General

Holy Symbol isnt as useful as it was

HS isn't as good as it used to be.
Pre-Unleashed HS/other EXP multipliers would simply multiply your EXP gained, both Normal and Party.
Post-Unleashed all EXP multipliers are a separate line, named "bonus EXP", and DOES NOT multiply Party EXP.

[url=http://oi44.tinypic.com/4kzls.jpg]5 people in party, HoH, with HS.[/url]
[url=http://oi43.tinypic.com/10moeas.jpg]5 people in party, HoH, without HS[/url]

In the first one you see:
- +40917 Normal EXP
- +20468 bonus EXP (From HS)
- +92185 Party EXP

In the second one you see:
- +40917 Normal EXP
- +92185 Party EXP

HS doesn't multiply Party EXP anymore. That's why soloing + switching out HS is better than a party now.

Edit: 2x cards possibly don't affect Party EXP either, someone test it out and maybe waste 2k nx?

October 1, 2013

15 Comments • Newest first

CrystalShadow

What @xProHeal said. It's not HS, it's the way party play exp boosts are now calculated. 2x cards and HS still stack, as do any other exp multipliers that work in the same way.

Reply October 1, 2013
xProHeal

HS is still the same. It's the way exp modifiers stack now that sucks.

Reply October 1, 2013
3moRaccoon

Better than nothing lol

WAYY better than pre BB

Reply October 1, 2013
SlovakHocky

They didn't ruin HS, they ruined the party experience. The party experience is what they neglected to have multiplied by other multipliers.

Reply October 1, 2013
jh92

I use HS for the 30%drop and 10%resist.

Reply October 1, 2013
jack0966

this game is too complex 4 me to play

i quit

Reply October 1, 2013
TheDStar

Still better than without HS.

Reply October 1, 2013
freezenlight

meh doesnt really matter, with evo world DIPQ and monster extreme training is easier after unleashed anyway.

Reply October 1, 2013
Leonzheng

@johny2toes: I only trained my DB from 200-202, purely off soloing HT 7 times per day. I only recently made this WA 2-3 weeks ago.
Regardless, most people don't solo in Party Play areas, and usually the EXP shown in the corner rolls too fast to be able to be seen clearly.

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited
johny2toes

@Leonzheng: Which again, anyone would of noticed how they're exp gain suddenly dropped after unleashed. Unless you're telling me you haven't trained once in the last 2 months and just realized today, "Oh hey I'm getting less exp in an hour than I normally do"

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited
Leonzheng

@johny2toes: Not everyone pays full attention the amount of EXP they're gaining, and most people only pay attention to the percentage, not the amount.

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited
GekkeGerrit

And the price of the most friendly comment off the day goes to johny2toes

NOT !

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited
johny2toes

Thank you captain obvious. Anyone with capable working eyes could of figured that out.

Also if you want to be more specific HS isn't as good as what it was pre-BB either.

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited
angryturtle1

:c das a shame. it's still good to get extra exp, though.

Reply October 1, 2013 - edited