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@anime1990:
Yup, I had the same worry hahha. I'll check to see if it fits and if it doesn't, well I don't mind spending some money on a new case
Oh thank you so much! You've been a massive help and I appreciate it.

Hopefully I'll start building this soon!

[quote=LikeeNo0ther]@anime1990:
I don't know what case it is, it's very old; but it's a full ATX-sized case.
I could get a 1gb 650Ti for $20 more than the 640 but that will depend on whether or not I'll have the money left to do so [/quote]

Oh, I'm just worried it wont fit, but if you think it will, then don't mind it
For performance, I guess it'll worth it (... I don't really like using GPU boss, but hope this give you the rough idea http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-650-Ti-vs-GeForce-GT-640 ), hope you'll be able to make up your mind

Goodluck~

@anime1990:
I don't know what case it is, it's very old; but it's a full ATX-sized case.
I could get a 1gb 650Ti for $20 more than the 640 but that will depend on whether or not I'll have the money left to do so

@LikeeNo0ther: Can you tell me what case do you have now, since it'll define what kind of mobo I can recommend to you.

As for GPU, I'll leave that to you, but if I may voice my opinion, I think anything lower than GTX 650Ti/R7 260x doesn't worth the bucks. (Unless you don't mind spending less but getting something that's not worth the price.)

@anime1990:
Will do, regarding the PSU. It's only about a $10 difference so maybe I will take on your advice
Ah I see, thank you so much; and yes, indeed I prefer Intel so I might just go with the 4670 and a GPU.

I'm planning on getting a 128gb Sandisk SSD for $95 and yes, with an extra 1Tb HDD.
I have an old case I could use so I might just use that, or if I could find a cheap case I'll consider getting that.

@LikeeNo0ther:
Sorry for the late reply.
I'd recommend staying on 600W unless the price drop is huge.

I find that some, if not, most AMD processor are best for budget v performance when they're ~200s, although this may not necessarily true for others (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
In this case though, 4670 integrated 4500HD wont outperform A10-5880k (APU comes with 7660D), unless you decided to add a dedicated GPU, which would increase your budget (Hence why I recommended the APU.. and I was going to look for this ram but I can't find it on pcpart http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231518 which goes better with the APU......... But let's note that you prefer Intel processor regardless the reason.)

Hope that explain enough

and I forgot that I put 250GB SSD on the link, if you think you prefer to cut cost, you can down it to $125, but make sure to grab 1TB HDD (Or less, or even none, if you think you're fine with using only up to 50 ~ 80% of the SSD. I don't recommend clogging your SSD) for storage, if you ever need one

You can try cutting cost on case (I think it's a bit too big for mATX, so try to get cheaper case if you wish that way... let's say haf 912, or anything)

@anime1990
Thanks! I'll most likely use some of the parts you just picked out and I think I can get a cheaper price on most of them so that's gonna take it down to below $1000!
I'll probably get a 500w PSU, the 600w was only there cos I couldn't find the 500w version.

Wait, just to clarify, do you mean an AMD CPU around the price of the 4670 would be better?
Hahha any opinion you have is good for me.
Thanks again for your help

@LikeeNo0ther:
I just picked 2133Mhz because of the APU, nothing else. It's heavily reliant on your memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGlnnMNuEHk
(The one on video is literally a higher clocked version of what I picked)
Someone did the test in past, and I hope this would satisfy your answer on this part

Let's see. Not good with AMD huh
Since you say your budget is 1000
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2tumZ (If you don't need extra storage)
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2tuqh (If you do need storage)

I did put a GPU there, I'm really skeptical on how well can 4500 HD (Since some activity requires better GPU [b]in my opinion[/b].

You can drop the GPU if you really don't think you'll need it. Seeing how pcpart PSU price for 400W and 600W is similar, I don't think I'll have to drop into 400W. (If you eventually plan to grab GPU, then you can stick with 500~ 600W one, but if you plan to ditch it, 400W more than enough, the price barely affected though, unless you can find cheap but still good one)
I'm putting back 4670 since I think that's what you prefer
(I don't have a rule of thumb, but in most cases, not all - all CPU ~200, I find AMD is better, but preference be preference)

I'm just doing this out of budget v PCPart price now
If this doesn't satisfy you, I hope there's someone else that can post a better and/or cheaper rig

[quote=anime1990]Just my opinion

If you only plan to use it for schoolwork, at most, and just some MS (and nothing else), your rig is a bit unneeded imo. CPU is overkill for schoolwork/maple alone, and I'm really skeptical with GT 640 for its' price.

My question is
- Are you on budget? If yes, then what's your budget

If you are on budget, and is TRYING to CUT cost as much as possible, I'll post this rig

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2thVt is enough.
(Readers, this is just my opinion. I know well in fact that under normal condition, GT 640 will be superior to this APU card, but remember, this is for budget building, and OT is not sure about having GPU or not)

The build is using APU, and you'll need to OC RAM on bios.
Cut the PSU Wattage into something like 400W. I didn't slip any external cooler. Stock cooler for this is good to go, but feel free if you want to.
SSD is there, assuming you wanted one, but no HDD since you said only schoolwork/Maplestory, considering they're not taking too much spaces.
I added tower assuming you forgot about it, but if you have one and decided to follow the rig, make sure everything would fits.

However,if you're totally skeptical with game performance and/or have certain preferences, post me your budget, and I'll try making things out of it within 24 hours.

and Whirpool forum would work best for this kind of stuff, at least for OZs[/quote]

I'm hoping for a pc that's below $1000 and thank you for taking the time to pick out that build but if I can, I try to avoid AMD and go for Intel.
Nothing wrong with AMD, just a personal preference.

Regarding the RAM, does 2133Mhz make a lot of difference to 1600Mhz?
@jasontrn I included an SSD because my laptop has one and I just don't want to give up that speed on the pc hahah; I also heard it helps with compilation times.
The HDD is more for storing everything else, like movies, music, etc.

The only 'game' I play is Maple Story and I think it'll run fine without a graphics card so I'm not too fussed about it. I just threw in one in case!

If it's only for school work or maple, I suggest you just degrade your mother board 1 level down, decrease your power supply from 600watts to like 400-500watts, You wouldn't really need an SSD from my thoughts because your WDblack 1t is already good enough as it is (Guessing that you'll only store the OS and games on it) :S as for graphics card.... for me I would spend the saving money on the graphics card LOL because I loveeeee hi res video rendering or gaming (but that's me).

So you'll save around $100-$150, You can either upgrade your processor or graphics card to improve your video or multi-tasking OR you can just save it for what ever you want LOL

you can get a gtx 650 ti for about the same price.

[quote=prestigechef]@SoulXIV:
care to elaborate B?[/quote]

Your "rule of thumb" has a law of diminishing returns. At some point it becomes stupid to spend X amount on a CPU. Say I wanted to get a 780ti, should I also spend 800 dollars on a CPU? Not at all. That would be the stupidest thing ever. I'd be better off to spend 300-400 and overclock it as hard as I can. Your rule is just not true. Not to mention even if you want 1 for 1, a GPU could still potentially bottleneck because of CPU. Chances are most peoples GPU is bottlenecked by their CPU anyway. It's not a "bad" bottleneck, it's just a fact of life with where we are with hardware technology.

@prestigechef: Maplestory isn't what I'd consider to be gaming so your rule of thumb doesn't apply. MATLAB benefits from GPU acceleration, but that's about it. You really don't need to drop $250 on a 760 for what this computer is being used for, there's very little benefit coming out of the extra $160. The GPU is only bottlenecking the processor from a gaming standpoint, but that's not what this computer is being built for.

I wouldn't call it rule of thumb, but I can use it as indicator. Price doesn't stay the same all the time.

As example, the one that OT posted. In what cases will that rig get bottlenecked. The price is not same, but it wont get bottleneck'd. Nothing's holding it back. GPU will work at its' best (If anything, the lack of bandwith on Mobo from OT's rig, but that's it)

@SoulXIV:
care to elaborate B?

Just my opinion

If you only plan to use it for schoolwork, at most, and just some MS (and nothing else), your rig is a bit unneeded imo. CPU is overkill for schoolwork/maple alone, and I'm really skeptical with GT 640 for its' price.

My question is
- Are you on budget? If yes, then what's your budget

If you are on budget, and is TRYING to CUT cost as much as possible, I'll post this rig

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2thVt is enough.
(Readers, this is just my opinion. I know well in fact that under normal condition, GT 640 will be superior to this APU card, but remember, this is for budget building, and OT is not sure about having GPU or not)
(A10-5880k wasn't my preference for APU, I prefer 6880k, but let's just say - Budget reason)
The build is using APU, and you'll need to OC RAM on bios.
Cut the PSU Wattage into something like 400W. I didn't slip any external cooler. Stock cooler for this is good to go, but feel free if you want to.
SSD is there, assuming you wanted one, but no HDD since you said only schoolwork/Maplestory, considering they're not taking too much spaces.
I added tower assuming you forgot about it, but if you have one and decided to follow the rig, make sure everything would fits.

However,if you're totally skeptical with game performance and/or have certain preferences, post me your budget, and I'll try making things out of it within 24 hours.

and Whirpool forum would work best for this kind of stuff, at least for OZs

[quote=prestigechef]Rule of thumb:
Your CPU and GFX should be around the same price or else you're bottlenecking your CPU[/quote]

This really isn't a rule of thumb at all...

I suggest finding some sort of an Australian computer forum and posting it there

@prestigechef Thanks for the advice; but I wasn't sure if I needed the card in the first place, so spending more money on it would just be illogical to me. Do I even need it?

@yongyong139 Yeah, PC Part picker didn't have anything lower than 600w for some reason, so I just picked a random closest one! And thanks, I'll look into other mobos.

I would get a cheaper power supply. you honestly don't need that much.

Edit: You can also go for a cheaper mobo.

Rule of thumb:
Your CPU and GFX should be around the same price or else you're bottlenecking your CPU