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wait, so do we still get a miracle fragment? o-o

[quote=timmyla90]Im sure nexon didnt bring this item out solely to make more money. It could also to help the economy. Think about it. Mesos value is horrible right now.. Like.. a 3 lined CHTP cost MORE than max mesos.. Really? I'm sure they are trying to bring down those "mad godly items" to prices people can afford and make a lil extra money at the same time.

Freaking genius if you ask me.[/quote]

mmmmmm thats a good point
thank you nexon for being so considerate :]

Can't wait till I use it on my Reverse Killic.

[quote=Slatz]If you dont have much to spend on luxuries, simple don't. $25 isn't alot at the age of 17 for me, have a full time job and trying to start and apprenticeship ASAP. I do have it far better off then other people my age because my parents work hard and help me with things quite alot.[/quote]

That's pretty much what I was saying. I don't have a lot to spend on luxuries like NX Cash, so I don't. Simple enough. I'd love more than anything to have a job, but can't swing it at the moment. I was offering an alternate perspective, one of someone on a budget who literally cannot work due to schedule constraints. As I said, for some of us, $25 puts food in our mouths for a week or better.

Keep working hard and getting paid. Best of luck to you.

[quote=sl3athOwl]The fact that you have any time to play ever is proof that you aren't tied down. "Despite what you might see in movies, college isn't all free time, partying and hedonism. It's hard work."

Ah, cause only occasionally getting to play on the computer for 4 hours is soo difficult. I realize that there is other stuff to do, but everyone has that. Of course I realize that there is more to college than partying and free time. As you said before, you're making an ass out of us.[/quote]

Just to clarify this bit, what I meant was that a typical job demands several hours per day, usually 3-6 days per week, and this is time I do not have. You find a job where you can work less than 2 hours a day around your own schedule, you let me know. Lab work and field work in my case account for almost all free time, and the message there was that it's extremely rare to have more than an hour or two to spend on unproductive activities, even on weekends. Those 3-4 hour periods of free time I mentioned are usually post-exam or the atypical slow lab day, and few and far between. Original post may have been a little vague, sorry.

I do wish you the best of luck in school, and since you're so much smarter than I am, hopefully you can earn some scholarship money so you'll have more of that $50,000 to spend on entertainment.

[quote=ElCheez]I never assumed that all kids who buy NX steal from their parents. "Dipping into mommy's purse" was a metaphor for spending such money be it earned, stolen, or whatever.[/quote]

So you'd be entirely fine with me saying that each day you dip into your mommy's purse to by everything you need? No. When saying it you are implying that it is not earned and possibly stolen.

[quote=ElCheez]Speaking of assumptions, do you also assume that I play MapleStory for several hours each day, and that I might instead devote this time and energy toward a job? News flash, Walter Cronkite. Not all of us have that much time to waste. I consider myself VERY lucky if I get 3 or 4 hours on a particular day to spend playing video games. Despite what you might see in movies, college isn't all free time, partying and hedonism. It's hard work.[/quote]

The fact that you have any time to play ever is proof that you aren't tied down. "Despite what you might see in movies, college isn't all free time, partying and hedonism. It's hard work."

Ah, cause only occasionally getting to play on the computer for 4 hours is soo difficult. I realize that there is other stuff to do, but everyone has that. Of course I realize that there is more to college than partying and free time. As you said before, you're making an ass out of us.

[quote=ElCheez]While school IS very expensive, and spending money on entertainment is certainly not unreasonable, but I think you missed the point. My point was not that it is completely unfeasible to spend $25/mo. on entertainment, but rather that it is not prudent...and another news flash for you, $25 really isn't all that small relative to other expenses. When you're spending $10 here, $25 there, $50 elsewhere every month for assorted expenses, these seemingly petty sums may add up to several hundred dollars.[/quote]

"When you're spending $10 here, $25 there, $50 elsewhere every month for assorted expenses, these seemingly petty sums may add up to several hundred dollars." So when you spend $25 on something that you find enjoyable, it [b]is[/b] relatively small to your other living expenses. $25 a month is nothing, and arguing otherwise is ridiculous. When you are spending $20,000 - $60,000 a year on a piece of paper that says your name and the name of someone who died 200 years ago, it is entirely reasonable to spend $25 on something that amuses you.

[quote=ElCheez]But I won't belabor this argument. You spend your money how you see fit, and I'll do the same. God willing you'll have enough loose change to feed your $25/mo. habit when you're on a budget with fixed income.[/quote]

Fair enough. But when I'm spending $50,000 on an elite education, I'll come up with a way to justify me spending $25 on something entertaining.

[quote=sl3athOwl]"sheesh, does nexon really thinks that kids are millionaires?"

>>kids

It might be a stretch of my imagination, but I assume he isn't talking about 22 year olds who live 100's of miles away from there parents.

Anyways, if you have enough time to play MS, you should be able to manage without the extra money that time could earn you at a job. Not to mention that any day you spend off at a college is at least $100, no matter what you're doing, and spending 1% of what you spend for your schooling once a month is reasonable, for anyone. I hate how people treat $25 like some unobtainable sum of money when they are spending multiple times that each day on tuition, food and gas. Sure, those are necessary, but $25-$50 is relatively small to any other expenses.

Also, assuming that anyone who buys nx and is a kid (which is what the guy I was quoting said), steals it from their parents is ridiculous.[/quote]
First of all, I took "kids" as a generalization for most players of MapleStory.

I never assumed that all kids who buy NX steal from their parents. "Dipping into mommy's purse" was a metaphor for spending such money be it earned, stolen, or whatever. You assume that I assumed, and when you assume, you make an ass of you and me. Speaking of assumptions, do you also assume that I play MapleStory for several hours each day, and that I might instead devote this time and energy toward a job? News flash, Walter Cronkite. Not all of us have that much time to waste. I consider myself VERY lucky if I get 3 or 4 hours on a particular day to spend playing video games. Despite what you might see in movies, college isn't all free time, partying and hedonism. It's hard work.

While school IS very expensive, and spending money on entertainment is certainly not unreasonable, I think you may have missed the point. My point was not that it is completely unfeasible to spend $25/mo. on entertainment, but rather that it is not prudent...and another news flash for you, $25 really isn't all that small relative to other expenses. When you're spending $10 here, $25 there, $50 elsewhere every month for assorted expenses, these seemingly petty sums may add up to several hundred dollars.

But I won't belabor this argument. You spend your money how you see fit, and I'll do the same. God willing you'll have enough loose change to feed your $25/mo. habit when you're on a budget with fixed income.

ANYWAY, back on-topic, I think the release of Premium Miracle Cubes is another ingenious Nexon marketing scheme, and they'll undoubtedly make boatloads of money. Whoever thinks up this crap in Nexon's marketing department, he or she has much to teach us. If they can convince people it's worth $3.10 a pop to gamble on altering the stats of an intangible video game item, just imagine what surprises await all the gullible NX sheep in updates to come.

*EDIT: As it stands, I'm only 21 years old, and live/go to school about 150 miles away from my parents. Close, though!

3 line E- Staves, level 163. Not so rare anymore. D:

Cool to hear about this. I did not think we would get something like this so soon though.
This is going to raise the Nx ratio I bet.

[quote=ElCheez]Depends on whose money it is, where it's coming from, etc. Consider that not all of us have the luxury of dipping into mommy's purse for our weekly/monthly NX Cash fix.

Speaking as a cash-strapped student, I cannot afford such "obscene, extravagant, luxuries" (and yes, things like NX Cash are indeed luxuries) when I have to worry about essentials like food, books, and rent. Being on a tight budget and not being able to work due to preoccupation with school really makes you appreciate the value of a dollar. You talk about $25 as if it's nothing, and yet when you're forced to stretch your dollar to live, $25 may be the difference between eating and not eating for a week or more.

Think about it.[/quote]

"sheesh, does nexon really thinks that kids are millionaires?"

>>kids

It might be a stretch of my imagination, but I assume he isn't talking about 22 year olds who live 100's of miles away from there parents.

Anyways, if you have enough time to play MS, you should be able to manage without the extra money that time could earn you at a job. Not to mention that any day you spend off at a college is at least $100, no matter what you're doing, and spending 1% of what you spend for your schooling once a month is reasonable, for anyone. I hate how people treat $25 like some unobtainable sum of money when they are spending multiple times that each day on tuition, food and gas. Sure, those are necessary, but $25-$50 is relatively small to any other expenses.

Also, assuming that anyone who buys nx and is a kid (which is what the guy I was quoting said), steals it from their parents is ridiculous.

[quote=sl3athOwl]I assume by "millionaires" you mean people who can spend a $25 on obscene, extravagant, luxuries, like entertainment, once a month.[/quote]

Depends on whose money it is, where it's coming from, etc. Consider that not all of us have the luxury of dipping into mommy's purse for our weekly/monthly NX Cash fix.

Speaking as a cash-strapped student, I cannot afford such "obscene, extravagant, luxuries" (and yes, things like NX Cash are indeed luxuries) when I have to worry about essentials like food, books, and rent. Being on a tight budget and not being able to work due to preoccupation with school really makes you appreciate the value of a dollar. You talk about $25 as if it's nothing, and yet when you're forced to stretch your dollar to live, $25 may be the difference between eating and not eating for a week or more.

Think about it.

[quote=yuriym21]Well, for 3100nx they could at least make it 80% chance to get 3rd line, sheesh. I wonder how much the stamp that adds a 3rd line at 50% and 80% gonna cost?
sheesh, does nexon really thinks that kids are millionaires?[/quote]

I assume by "millionaires" you mean people who can spend a $25 on obscene, extravagant, luxuries, like entertainment, once a month.

[quote=Safez]I actually wish it would cost more than 3.1k...
NX hoars will be making money like 10x easier now.[/quote]

This.

[mini-rant time]
Am I the only one who misses the old days when it clearly stated in the ToS that NX Cash and cash items would never give players any kind of competitive advantage? If anyone wonders why the Maple-economy has gone to crap and seemingly follows no logical trend, blame the cash shop, and the monster it has become.

Thanks, Nexon. With love,
Cheez

Im sure nexon didnt bring this item out solely to make more money. It could also to help the economy. Think about it. Mesos value is horrible right now.. Like.. a 3 lined CHTP cost MORE than max mesos.. Really? I'm sure they are trying to bring down those "mad godly items" to prices people can afford and make a lil extra money at the same time.

Freaking genius if you ask me.

I actually wish it would cost more than 3.1k...
NX hoars will be making money like 10x easier now.

Ohyes. Time to use this bad boy on my czak helm and reverse crossbow.

[quote=aDeadSpider]On the site it says something about the maximum number of potentials. Anyone want to speculate/explain what that means?[/quote]

3 lines

[quote=ufinkok]say if i have a arcglaive 2 lined unique and i used the premium cube, could i get it 3 lined unique?
someone please respond[/quote]

Should only allow rare items to gain a 3rd line.

[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/equipsq.png/] Kinda excited...[/url]

Cool finally 2-line equips will be worth something !

[quote=tyte07]Wow Nexon, really? Even though I have some really nice 2L stuff, that 25% is not fair at all.

I guess Nexon is doing what they do best (not fixing the game): making money.[/quote]
hey you should be happy. most of us thought it was going to be random like making an item from rare to epic.

say if i have a arcglaive 2 lined unique and i used the premium cube, could i get it 3 lined unique?
someone please respond

no more difference btween items now only atk stats worth like the old ms , i like that
did imaging the huge diffeence was btw a 2lines and 3lines chtp , and 10atk bblack coak , chelmet ....
am just regeting that i sold my 2lines vip earrings/pandant

Sweet I can get my 40 dex czak to 3 line without having to buy a new one woot woot~
Also making timeless stuff isn't a big risk now cause who cares if its 2 line XD.

exciting!

[quote=tyte07]Wow Nexon, really? Even though I have some really nice 2L stuff, that 25% is not fair at all.

I guess Nexon is doing what they do best (not fixing the game): making money.[/quote]

It's an average of 12.4k per item. I think it's pretty fair.

@treefriends: Lol. I stand corrected. |:

It changes the lines..

[quote=smokennaruto]2lines are not crap anymore, and the price for vip or hight atk 2lines weapons will be almost the same as 3lines , thas nice
but i cant use this cube for my 2 lines 15% luk lvl90bottom too risky , i bet people hoe got 2 lines but useful like 30% boss and 9/6% atk/damage will not use this cube[/quote]

but lets say you have 6% luk and you use a pre cube and it becomes 3line,isn't it possible of keeping 6% or would that be as much pure luck as getting a 3lined unqie?

2lines are not crap anymore, and the price for vip or hight atk 2lines weapons will be almost the same as 3lines , thas nice
but i cant use this cube for my 2 lines 15% luk lvl90bottom too risky , i bet people hoe got 2 lines but useful like 30% boss and 9/6% atk/damage will not use this cube

i bet nx rate shall go up to 1:30

@LordRaziel: I was hoping 2k.. T_T but yea. It's a nice chance to revive some items.

it doesnt say for how long this item will be available so its here to stay ( i hope o.o )

[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/Events.aspx?boardNo=200&contentNo=00C0s&pageIndex=1]Here you go, guys.[/url]

Never mind, I fail for being ultra slow.

@gamey109: http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/Events.aspx?boardNo=200&contentNo=00C0s&pageIndex=1

dont giv me an attitude.

[quote=YellowKev][url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/Events.aspx?boardNo=200&contentNo=00C0s&pageIndex=1]Huh?[/url][/quote]

Ah. I see the page now. I stand corrected. Thanks for linking me! (:

its under events tab.

[quote=gamey109]@treefriends: [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/News.aspx?boardNo=106&contentNo=00C0U&pageIndex=1]Please, tell me where it says anything about premium miracle cubes[/url][/quote]

EDIT: Now that everyone's saying that it's on the website, could someone link me then? ._."

@treefriends: [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/News.aspx?boardNo=106&contentNo=00C0U&pageIndex=1]Please, tell me where it says anything about premium miracle cubes[/url]

are you guys living under a rock? its on the maple website, its all over basil...

@gamey109: ever check the website?

@Lulzy: it has 25% chance to turn 2line into 3 line. Otherwise, its jus regular cube.

OT: its 3100nx..... thats 2.5x the normal cube price. I love how nexon never lets us down. rite?
but Im getting them anyways since all my reverse/timeless are 2 lines.

and your proof is where... ?