Tanky class that still does good damage?
Well im just curious if this is a thing for warriors, I dont really play them Im more into bowman. I feel like changing it up tho and going for a more tanky class that can still do some good damage
EDIT:I guess i never thought other classes would have tank variants so what else is there and a little bit about them
February 22, 2015
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How tanky are DWs? just curious since no one mentioned them and im looking for a tanky class as well
I think Dark Knight is a good tank and modding!
[quote=Etrayo]WildHunter is the tankiest Bowman class at the moment.[/quote]
Really? ._. I know they have the highest HP of the bowmen classes but don't MMs have like 80% dmg reduction or something? WHs get drain but that's not exactly tanky...
ya paladin with hp pot in their pets is just OP, thx for the info pridefulsoul.
[quote=ShadeCombo]I heard that money is a pretty good class. Maybe that's just me though[/quote]
You slightly off, money is the strongest damage class, not the strongest tank class. Money + Paladin = Ultimate damage and tank class.
@LordAnubiS, @bblan7787, @powerguy121
The reason that you can survive Pierre's attack sometimes is because pet auto heal can heal faster than you can press your potion button. Pierre does multi hits, each a certain % (not sure how much) if you set your pet auto pot to like 20%, as soon as the [# of hits 3 % of hit] is greater than or equal to 20%, you will pot and heal (granted that the rest of the hits doesn't add up to 100%). It does not appear to work with odd hp. My friend tested this as well and said he died although his character was at odd hp. It probably meant that he was at odd hp, but less than 100% which meant that each hit dealt damage and added up to over his current %hp left.
edit: I saw @CherryTigers ' video and was curious to see if the odd hp thing was true. It's actually a bit odd, if you look at the actual damage dealt per hit it's 19352. His total hp is 38705. So the amount of damage pierre deals per hit is actually 50%. This 50% x 3 is 150% (note, it's 50% total hp each hit, not 50% of remaining hp). So in order to actually tank with odd hp and end up at 1 hp left, you would require a pet auto heal at 50%. The pet would heal after the first hit to max hp, assuming it's with a power elixer, then the second 2 hits would be dealt immediately after leaving him at 1 hp. I believe pet autoheal has a slight cooldown or at least can't heal 3 simultaneous hits like pierre which is why you don't heal 3x and get back up to 100% immediately. That is my reasoning at least.
@bblan7787: ya but thats 1 time every now and then, normally u take a mule to cpierre so he can die in a corner and distract one of the clowns, so is not like u die too often, i guess thiefs are more suited for that with dark sight.
[quote=LordAnubiS]@bblan7787: i guess his 3 hits cheap attack is not about hp% but a high number attack? do dks and das survive that attack?[/quote]
well drk has final pact making them better than pally for that boss because sancro san is a self activating move so you cant use it when you actually need it.
You cam survive the 1 shot from any class from c pierre if you have an odd number of hp
@bblan7787: i guess his 3 hits cheap attack is not about hp% but a high number attack? do dks and das survive that attack?
@LordAnubiS: pally def doesnt work aganist pierre he still one shot you so their are better classes for tanking their.
@bblan7787: why pierre? i fought cpierre but i had the same problems as anyone else, did i miss something?
[quote=LordAnubiS]@bblan7787: ik but she said dk is the tankiest, dk should the best option for the owner of the thread, but the tankiest is pally [/quote]
obviously it isnt even a argument pally is tankiest in most situations maybe except pieere
[quote=mvietp09]to give you one from each class...
warrior - paladin / zero (Beta mostly)
thief- shadower
mage- battle mage
bowman- marksman / wildhunter (close one in my opinion, but marksman might be slightly better)
pirate- cannon master[/quote] WildHunter is the tankiest Bowman class at the moment.
@bblan7787: ik but she said dk is the tankiest, dk should the best option for the owner of the thread, but the tankiest is pally
[quote=LordAnubiS]@Rimkii: yeah but even in the case of training or low level bossing, pally is almost unkillable, when ur lvl is too high and the monster is pretty weak if they dont miss on u they only hit 1 right? well thats how a pally feel even when cra bosses attack them with normal attacks, pink bean, madman ranmaru, empress, magnus, etc. i mean those are the monster that really hurt with their attacks, but guess what? those attacks r a joke for pallys, obviously hp% attacks hit us like eveybody else, but dont kill us and even with that we have sacrosanctity(30 secs of god mode) so tha tankiest class is?[/quote]
paladin is the tankiest class in the game. But I think he wanted one that also a high damage dealer
@Rimkii: yeah but even in the case of training or low level bossing, pally is almost unkillable, when ur lvl is too high and the monster is pretty weak if they dont miss on u they only hit 1 right? well thats how a pally feel even when cra bosses attack them with normal attacks, pink bean, madman ranmaru, empress, magnus, etc. i mean those are the monster that really hurt with their attacks, but guess what? those attacks r a joke for pallys, obviously hp% attacks hit us like eveybody else, but dont kill us and even with that we have sacrosanctity(30 secs of god mode) so tha tankiest class is?
Shads FTW
definately shadower because i dont even use pots at pink bean at all.. perfect dodge ftw?
[quote=knowlt]shadower. (not a warrior but one of best tanks and does very good dmg)[/quote]
Not to mention we have super stance with assassinate so nothing can kb us!
@LordAnubiS: This is just off of my personal experience, and definitely my mistake for not mentioning that I don't actually boss on my drk or pally since that's not where my funding is. CRA also goes back to lack of funding.
I heard that money is a pretty good class. Maybe that's just me though
Paladin, Mihilie, Dark Knight, and Demon Avenger are pretty tanky.
Pallies are tankier than anything, moves that 1hko other classes won't do so for pallies. Mine can survive hits from gollux's hands for instance.
Demon Avengers come in 2nd because of their absurd amount of hp, along with several moves that fully heal you either instantly or quickly.
Drks have great passive drain, so as long as you keep attacking you won't lose hp.
Shads are tanky for thieves, Shield Mastery + iframes + smokescreen work out pretty well in their favor.
Hero. >->
Pallys.
[quote=Rimkii]Drks imo seem a lot more tanky than pallies now. They are practically almost unkillable (i still died on occasion tho) and restore hp every other attack. While pallies can still technically heal, their skill sits on a CD while drks can just thrash away and hardly even notice.
EDIT: as far as bowman go, I feel like wild hunters are pretty tanky....Till wild arrow blast screws you over when a boss puts up damage reflect </3
Cannoneers are pretty solid too, if you can put up with being slow[/quote]
lol cvellum? 1hko skills? well that kill dks but dont kill pallys... whos the tank then?
no Demon Avenger?
Paladin. Anyone who says otherwise is jealous.
[quote=Rimkii]Drks imo seem a lot more tanky than pallies now. They are practically almost unkillable (i still died on occasion tho) and restore hp every other attack. While pallies can still technically heal, their skill sits on a CD while drks can just thrash away and hardly even notice.
EDIT: as far as bowman go, I feel like wild hunters are pretty tanky....Till wild arrow blast screws you over when a boss puts up damage reflect </3
Cannoneers are pretty solid too, if you can put up with being slow[/quote]
They do have great drain, but I think they ant be considered "tanky". They need to attack in order to heal after all, consider a boss that actuvates dr, dark can't hitnit to drain hp and heal. Sure they can take some damage from the boss cause they're a warrior, but then you could essentially call heroes tanky as well. Paladin still is actually a tank, they just lost some damage to be on equal footing as dark and hero.
paladin is the only class that actually tanks the damage due to the mitigation. every other class will die to 1/1's and insta-kills
Paladins are probably the most tankiest class in the game... and their damage isn't too bad either.
Dark Knights- they have amazing hp drain (i dont even need to look at the hp bar) and IF you die you have revive passive.
Shades can be fairly tanky too. They have good defenses and a skill that auto-protects them from death. Their skill set is also well suited for bossing with a bind and soul splitter.. Some people say mobbing on a shade wasn't great but I never really had an issue with it through 140, which, by that point in time I'm not doing much mobbing but instead bossing.
Paladins and Battle Mages
Drks imo seem a lot more tanky than pallies now. They are practically almost unkillable (i still died on occasion tho) and restore hp every other attack. While pallies can still technically heal, their skill sits on a CD while drks can just thrash away and hardly even notice.
EDIT: as far as bowman go, I feel like wild hunters are pretty tanky....Till wild arrow blast screws you over when a boss puts up damage reflect </3
Cannoneers are pretty solid too, if you can put up with being slow
Dark knight.
Pallies have fallen from the graces of Olympus.
to give you one from each class...
warrior - paladin / zero (Beta mostly)
thief- shadower
mage- battle mage
bowman- marksman / wildhunter (close one in my opinion, but marksman might be slightly better)
pirate- cannon master
shadower. (not a warrior but one of best tanks and does very good dmg)
Paladins are very tanky and still do pretty decent amount of damage. If that's what you're looking for, go for it!
I would say paladin or dawn warrior