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@thallforms: The difference being Avast is supposed to protect your data. Everyone knows Facebook and Google do that. But an antimalware suite is not supposed to be doing that, and it is a big deal when it is confirmed that they do it

[quote=Lecarde]@CherryTigers: Stop using avast now. It has recently been revealed that they have been using their antimalware to spy on users browsing habits. I would recommend malwarebytes antimalware. I have yet to see it miss something that other programs, even paid ones, will find [/quote]

So does Facebook, so does google, so does many of the website you probably use on a daily basis....

@BobR: I do understand what you are saying, and I agree with you. With Windows 8 MSE comes default and runs without user setup required. The same goes for Windows Firewall. For the non techsavvy I just ignored these because they might confuse some people. However, even without Windows 8 installed, Windows Firewall is enabled by default, and that is sufficient if you don't click on every link you see and download every email attachment you get.

CherryTigers is a smart person, just look at how he went from nothing to one of the most recognized players in the game. Simply running a scan with Malwarebytes once a month is more than enough to keep CherryTigers computer safe, and I was giving advice to him, not the general public.

@FlyChopin Was there an update to the program today..?
Often when MacAfee updates it'll start acting weirdly, doing things like trying to quarantine Maplestory thinking it's a threat. They eventually fix it to avoid the false detections.

@BobR: Its just strange because it suddenly started doing this from today.

@FlyChopin It's probably detecting the "anti-hack" actions as some kind of threat then.
If there's no way of excluding it from the heuristic scanning, then your solution may be the only way around it.

@BobR: It does. And i also believe in NA this program is called roboscan. And excluding maplestory.exe does not prevent roboscan from repeatedly catching trojan. Roboscan does not exclude folders, so i'd think it would be a lot of files to exclude. The only way i found that stops this is manually ending blackcypher before maplestory client pops up

@FlyChopin Is there an "exceptions" or "exclusions" option in the settings for that anti-virus program..?
If so (there really should be), add the Maplestory folder to it if it'll let you, or Maplestory.exe if it won't accept the folder. That will make it stop checking the Maplestory folder/file so it doesn't give you the false positive.

I also am using al yac, and same thing happens to me. everytime i turn on maple, before client pops up, i get troyan alter during security step. Then when maple client actually finishes loading up, it just turns itself off with it saying error: hacking reasons.. Not sure what changed because i've been using al yac for a long time, but this only started happening since, today

@Lecarde: I'm not advocating for "dedicated anti-malware suite that you pay for" by any means.
I use the free MSE and Malwarebytes as my main line of defense and I'm perfectly satisfied with them.

MSE runs a real-time process which has no noticeable effect on computer performance, and Malwarebytes is run as an on-demand/as needed scan about once a week or when there's some suspicion about a specific file or anomalous behavior.

And while a few individuals may be "smart" about their exposure on the Internet, most people who use computers and networks aren't, which leaves them at risk.
Having a minimal defensive line consisting of free, easy to use and low or no impact protection will help keep them from being harmed by their ignorance.

The free version of Malwarebytes is useless in the case of immediate downloaded threats, and useless unless it's manually updated and manually run on a regular basis.
Which means it's no protection at all for a non-tech savvy person who doesn't understand that just downloading something once doesn't protect them forever.
That's why using it in conjunction with a program like MSE which automatically updates itself and runs itself automatically on a scheduled basis is the best solution for most people.

Just download AVG/NOD 32 Anti-Virus (The Free version of course).
Then just do a computer scan.

@BobR: You are correct, however malwarebytes is generally regarded as anti-malware. Viruses as well as spyware fall under the banner of malware. It will be all he needs. Honestly, antimalware isn't even needed if you are smart about where you go and what you download, and it sounds like CherryTigers is smart about that stuff, at least on this computer. Yes having a dedicated anti-malware suite that you pay for will obviously be better than malwarebytes by itself. But then you get into problems such as those suites have to run real-time to give you any actual advantages in malware detection and prevention, which does nothing but slow down your computer and drain battery faster. Malwarebytes is more than enough protection unless you commonly download from sketchy sites or are absolutely careless about what you do on the internet.

@lvXBowvl Anti-virus/anti-malware programs may detect the "Thermidia" protection method used by Nexon to deter reverse-engineering as a "potentially unwanted program" or "trojan", but it's a FALSE detection. There is no "Trojan Horse Virus" in Maplestory.

There should be some way to exclude Maplestory.exe or the entire Maplestory folder from being scanned by your anti-virus program. Check the setting options for something that mentions "exclude" or "ignore" and add Maplestory to the list. That way the program will skip Maplestory when it runs and not give you those indications.

@CherryTigers Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is NOT an "anti-virus" scanner. It's an "anti-spyware" scanner. They're two different things.
You really need BOTH an anti-virus scanner to find the things it's optimized to find (viruses) and an anti-spyware scanner for things like spyware, keyloggers and tracking.

There's some crossover between the detections in both types of programs of course, but having both gives a deeper layer of coverage.

I've never heard of an antivirus program being referred to as a vaccine program before that's pretty awesome and makes so much sense. As for it detecting MapleStory well it might be trying to tell you something there. MapleStory is a virus that sucks you in and won't let you go even if you try to quit.

Does anyone mean a virus detector program?

[quote=ZaraByte]Ask a guy who has over 13 years in the Security Field and doesn't relay on a anti virus software anything![/quote]
What fun stuff did you do over the weekend?

@Lecarde Thanks for the opinion. Malwarebytes it is then.

@CherryTigers: No, active virus protection is not necessary in your situation. But, personally, I would still recommend downloading malwarebytes and run a scan once a month or so. It only takes a few minutes and is just a nice way to ensure that nothing got onto your machine despite the low risk. But it isn't necessary by any means

AV programs, especially free ones, can be prone to false flags. I used to get them a lot with MSE due to faulty definition updates that the company would release.

@Lecarde Oh, the only thing I do is Maplestory, Basilmarket, email, and my university/college websites for homework/coursework. Then again, since that's all I do, I don't even need a virus protection to begin with since my computer really isn't exposed to much.

idk. What's your opinion? If I barely visit other websites and I don't do any downloads on this laptop, is virus protection really necessary?

@CherryTigers: Stop using avast now. It has recently been revealed that they have been using their antimalware to spy on users browsing habits. I would recommend malwarebytes antimalware. I have yet to see it miss something that other programs, even paid ones, will find

@lvXBowvl: Right now, Maplestory is lagging very badly so we're all disconnecting.

I don't know anything about that Korean program but Avast is one of the most popular free virus protections in the world so maybe you can consider using that to scan your computer too.

[quote=CherryTigers]What virus protection are you using? My avast does not respond to maplestory.

Download Avast and do a scan.[/quote]

I'm using a Korean vaccine program called al yac. It's a trustworthy vaccine program because it's pretty much spread all over Korea. Btw, is it jst me or r everyone having problem logging in? I keep getting dced and can't play maplestory >:

if it says you have a trojan virus

you likely have a trojan virus.

-microsoft help center

What virus protection are you using? My avast does not respond to maplestory.

Download Avast and do a scan.