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Would it be more effective to get an Empress Wand or Staff?

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A clean one I mean. I know the staff is 2 M. ATK higher, but it has a Slow speed while the wand has a Normal speed and is cheaper. Which one would be better to get for my future Bishop? Sorry if its a newby question, I'm kind of new to Mages.

Thanks!

June 11, 2013

20 Comments • Newest first

MangoCoffee

@ballsface

You aren't really being helpful here, calling people idiots.

@natty2 @itsRichu

Thank you for your help. I've done a bit more research and I see that Empress Staves are better almost every way.

Reply June 17, 2013 - edited
natty2

[quote=ballsface]You must be an idiot.[/quote]

Perhaps I'm an idiot, but at least I'm providing true, useful information, and not an opinion, which may lead the TS into picking the wrong choice.

Reply June 17, 2013 - edited
ballsface

[quote=natty2]Anyone with at least half a brain wouldn't write
"Wand > Staff
That's all you need to know"
Because that's not writing an opinion. That's giving false information. What you meant wasn't clear at all.[/quote]

You must be an idiot.

Reply June 17, 2013 - edited
natty2

[quote=ballsface]@itsRichu
Alright buddy. Anyone with at least half a brain could've realised what I meant. (HINT: does not include you!)[/quote]

Anyone with at least half a brain wouldn't write
"Wand > Staff
That's all you need to know"
Because that's not writing an opinion. That's giving false information. What you meant wasn't clear at all.

Reply June 15, 2013 - edited
ballsface

@itsRichu
Alright buddy. Anyone with at least half a brain could've realised what I meant. (HINT: does not include you!)

Reply June 15, 2013 - edited
betaboi101

Wand = 2 h axes/ maces for mages; they're cost effective damage wise but have a VERY limited market value

Reply June 13, 2013 - edited
MangoCoffee

[quote=natty2]@ above: You got it wrong,

Bishops, I/L Mages, and Evan dont count weapon's attack speed. Really, the weapon speed only changes the normal attack speed.
Mages have CASTING speed, and it doesn't change with the weapon speed.
Staff is better because it has more m.att O_o
Blaze and F/P have certain attacks that do use weapon speed, so those are better off with wands on these certain attacks, but they are doing just fine with a staff.
BaM can only use staves...

Also, dont go tell a bishop to stay on a rope when he's asking about the strength of a weapon O_o[/quote]

Okie, thank you for clearing that all up. I've never funded a Mage before, so I'm totally clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff.

And lol, telling Bishops to be on ropes. How rude of him.

Reply June 13, 2013 - edited
ballsface

[quote=natty2]@ballsface, you are too, wrong.
Wand, although cheaper by a bit, gives less magic attack, yet you gain nothing in return.[/quote]

Haha you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
I was just saying wands are better because I like them more, not because they are actually better in any way (except in every way).

Reply June 13, 2013 - edited
natty2

@ballsface, you are too, wrong.
Wand, although cheaper by a bit, gives less magic attack, yet you gain nothing in return.

Reply June 12, 2013 - edited
ballsface

Wand > Staff
That's all you need to know

Reply June 12, 2013 - edited
natty2

@ above: You got it wrong,

Bishops, I/L Mages, and Evan dont count weapon's attack speed. Really, the weapon speed only changes the normal attack speed.
Mages have CASTING speed, and it doesn't change with the weapon speed.
Staff is better because it has more m.att O_o
Blaze and F/P have certain attacks that do use weapon speed, so those are better off with wands on these certain attacks, but they are doing just fine with a staff.
BaM can only use staves...

Also, dont go tell a bishop to stay on a rope when he's asking about the strength of a weapon O_o

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
moonmirage

yes but cordons could be better if scrolled

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
natty2

Attack speed doesnt matter,
However, m.att is really good.
I got myself a wand, because it didn't matter to me.
But you may find a staff with 161 m.att and a wand with 163, so it really doesnt matter.
The resell price matters also, because some classes can only use Staves, now wands, so a staff has a general higher price.

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
nc4228

For a bishop, attack speed makes no difference as our attacks do not consider attack speed. So obviously a staff is better.

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
Constalations

[quote=jolteon7]the 2m. att is extremely insignificant, and attack speed is nothing to worry about.

the biggest concern would be resale value, since bishops are the only classes that should be using wands. if you are going to invest a lot in cubing and scrolling and want to make that back some day, then i would go for a staff.

i left my 251m. att 45% PDR 9% damage wand in a shop for a week and didnt get any offers. i ended up just giving it to a guildy for free. if you ever plan on selling the weapon, get a staff.[/quote]
for this reason i made myself an empress staff 2days ago, finally perfected it to 215m.att and epic potted it so now i just got to ee and cube it. Now im looking for a double miracle time and prot scrolls back in the cs

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
minigodzila

If you ever feel like giving more free stuff away let me know

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
jolteon7

the 2m. att is extremely insignificant, and attack speed is nothing to worry about.

the biggest concern would be resale value, since bishops are the only classes that should be using wands. if you are going to invest a lot in cubing and scrolling and want to make that back some day, then i would go for a staff.

i left my 251m. att 45% PDR 9% damage wand in a shop for a week and didnt get any offers. i ended up just giving it to a guildy for free. if you ever plan on selling the weapon, get a staff.

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
MangoCoffee

[quote=JustAnotherUser]Depends on your funds, if low funded a wand would be preferred as it's a lot cheaper but if you don't mind paying cash for the extra matk then go ahead. The speed of wand/staves only affect the speed at which mages can whack stuff with it (like when opening boxes), casting speed is enterily independent from the the staff/wand's speed.[/quote]

Ohhhh I see now. Thanks!

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited
JustAnotherUser

Depends on your funds, if low funded a wand would be preferred as it's a lot cheaper but if you don't mind paying cash for the extra matk then go ahead. The speed of wand/staves only affect the speed at which mages can whack stuff with it (like when opening boxes), casting speed is enterily independent from the the staff/wand's speed.

Reply June 11, 2013 - edited