Something I would like to say about Nexon
Lately, as seen in the [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2769792]following thread[/url], the controversy over Nexon being a bad company has gotten even more intense. I just thought I would give my own opinion about this topic. Keep in mind that I am not trying to call any Mapler out, and the Basiler I am quoting soon is just quoted to show my opposing side's argument. @Nigma, I have nothing against you, I am just quoting your post. Nobody flame me please.
Also, the first section of my argument uses _ instead of periods because Basil thought I was using a post extender and I couldn't find it. So without further ado:
[b]Let's get started[/b].
[quote=Nigma]Like i said before in another thread i shall say it again. All people do is complain about Nexon. If you're soo good at complaining what they do wrong, i would like to see you fix their problem since you make it sound soo easy to fix.[/quote]
While I do agree that sometimes people rant excessively about Nexon, there are [b]tons[/b] of legitimate reasons to not like them_ Not always Nexon Korea, but Nexon America_ Nexon Korea is the one making all of the good content and classes_ Nexon America just takes that content, adds their own little changes (most of the time they are bad, such as Luminous being forced to become dark, all it did was get rid of variety), and implements it into the game_ Not to mention the fact that KMS has a much better and more professional Cash Shop system with more variety and items that are [b] not only permanent but cheaper than that of those in GMS [/b]_ Also, the game is [i]ridden[/i] with glitches and exploits and even though Nexon can't patch them all, they aren't doing a good job of keeping most of them under control_ Hackers can run rampant_ In fact, when Aliens was still a legitimate training area, I would go to a channel and attack without realizing a botter was attacking too. I would get disconnected, but the botter was still perfectly fine.
Why is it that a legitimate player gets disconnected almost immediately but not the botter? Legitimate players get falsely banned all the time! As I said, hackers can literally run rampant, anyone can say they are a botter or a duper but do they get banned? Not after several months, rollbacks, and banning of legitimate players. Nexon can't get rid of all them, that's true, but they can get rid of many. Not to mention the array of glitches in the game [b]*cough* Remember when Root Abyss had to be taken down cause it was so glitchy? *cough*[/b]
Plus, do I even need to say anything about the ticket system?
And don't even get me started on the pay to win aspect. It can take hundreds of dollars worth of cubes to make a single piece of equipment "decent". How could this possibly be any less professional? If you pay to get better in a game, you should be able to expect to get better. Bosses in the game aren't even beatable without ridiculously high ranges. And how on earth can an unfunded player get "funded"? Sure, they can merch all they want, but it will take an eternity or immense amounts of luck to be able to even stand a chance against worthwhile bosses like Magnus, Pink Bean, Chaos Root Abyss, etc. The most efficient way to even make a decent amount of mesos for unfunded Maplers is to take advantage of events, which Nexon America highly discourages for some stupid reason. RED may have helped to narrow the gap between the unfunded and the funded, but it is still a large gap nevertheless, and it was [b]Nexon Korea's work[/b] after all. The only good thing Nexon America seems to have done lately is Commerci, which is still flawed in some obvious ways.
And speaking of events, I can't even say the word "event" in-game without it being censored. Nexon America's censorship has gotten even more ridiculous. Not only are they censoring variations of bad words, they are [b]censoring words that aren't even bad[/b], like "event", "party", and "gm", all of which are gameplay mechanics. [b]Nexon America is censoring their own gameplay mechanics![/b] That's like walking into a Walmart and asking to buy groceries but getting kicked out for saying "groceries". It's ridiculous! Nobody can even have a normal conversation without some part of every line being censored. Consider the following conversation:
"Last night I was in a party with my friends for the 2x event."
"Was Christy with you? She thought it was tonight lol."
"Yeah, and we even thought saw a gm! By the way, is your mount permanent?"
"Yes it's permanent, got it from the Cash Shop. Anyway, I am going to be on my Dark Knight. See you later!"
"You too!"
A bit generic, but nothing wrong with it, right? Here's how it would look like in-game:
"Last *ht I was in a * with my friends for the 2x ***."
"Was ******y with you? She though* was to*ht lol."
"Yeah, and we **** *hought we saw a **! By the way, is your mount permanent?"
"Yes it'* ****anent, go* from the . Anyway, I am going to be on my Dark K*ht. See you later!"
"You too!"
Do I even need to say anything?
And that, my friend, is why many people hate Nexon (America) with a burning passion.
Not that KMS is great, [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2724228]they have their faults too[/url]. But GMS is hopeless at the moment, and it seems like the only truly good Maplestory version is JMS for obvious reasons that if I had to explain would make this post even longer.
[b]TL;DR[/b]: Nexon America is a bad company because illegitimate players can run free, legitimate players get banned falsely, they mess up events, constantly leave their game ridden with glitches, made the Cash Shop in GMS terrible in comparison to that of KMS, and implemented the worse censorship system ever.
It took a great amount of self-control to use a TL;DR and not insult people who skip right to the end to read it. Just saying.
Have a good night Basilers.
15 Comments • Newest first
@MangoCoffee: The only main for hacking being so common here is because hacking in other countries have more severe consequences than the U.S. does. But yea i see you have valid points. But all I'm saying is nothing is perfect and obviously there will be people who will try "breaking" the game so either way, there will always be a problem with something no matter how small or large it is. Fixing one problem may cause another thing to malfunction or become buggy.
You can never right nexon's wrong, people have endlessly ranted with nexon's incompetence with no real progress being made, you're only echoing what so many others have said in the past.
you'll have to either move on or quit.
just gonna say this.... they fixed the censorship for "party" "event" "night" and "eggplant" i dunno about the other words
[quote=Lecarde]@MangoCoffee: Well your post was excessively long and said nothing important to me so I never made it to the end tbh [/quote]
Not to be rude or anything, but if you are going to debate with someone you should listen to their whole argument, long or not. It could have been much longer if I went into detail with the glitches but I felt that the simple mention of them and the horror that was the Root Abyss glitch mess was enough.
[quote=Lecarde] Any game will have glitches and hackers. Nexon has far fewer people working for it than Blizzard or Jagex does, so it makes sense that it is a lot harder for them to take care of these things in a timely manner. And I am not sure why everyone complains about the word filter thing, it has never been a problem to me, and they recently updated it anyhow because you can now say event in game, my alliance has been throwing that word around like crazy, so it can't have been as bad as it was purported to be. [/quote]
If you had read my whole post, you would have noticed that I said that all games have glitches and hackers. Nexon isn't supposed to get rid of them, they are supposed to limit them. And from what is quite obvious, they haven't done much limiting. It is painfully normal to find a person botting. And you said it yourself, they don't have many people working for them, but considering that they have several very successful games and quite a large amount of profit from the Cash Shop, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that Nexon could hire some more workers. People complain about the word filter because, well, nobody can have a conversation without a good portion of it censored. Even if "event" is censored anymore, it is still pretty bad, not to mention extremely unprofessional.
[quote=Lecarde] The gap between the rich and the poor will always happen in a capitalist system, and Maplestory is very much a capitalist system. The only way Nexon could possibly alleviate that gap permanently is by getting rid of potentials and lowering the chance of boom on all scrolls while simultaneously raising their chances of success (something that recently came in a patch to KMS, so we should get it around march, the scrolls I mean). Also Nexon needs to stop giving out +7, +8, and +9 scrolls at events, that does nothing to close the gap, it just contributes to breaking the mechanics of the game even further. The pay to win system sucks, but RED was a step in the right direction, and the next few patches on KMS keep closing the gap further. [/quote]
Again, as I said with glitches and hackers, they don't need to close the gap entirely, but make it smaller to the point where poor players can still experience a good portion of the fun in the game. And if KMS is focused on closing the gap a bit, I wasn't quite aware of it yet, but it is still a legitimate cause of complain if it isn't narrowed.
[quote=Lecarde] If you noticed though, Nexon used to catch more of the glitches up front in the Tespia server, but they took it down due to not nearly enough people using it to catch the major bugs, so it was essentially useless. If you can get enough people who would play it seriously enough to catch bugs then they might reopen it and then you wouldn't have so many in the game, but it was you guys, the players, that weren't using Tespia, and ultimately our fault that the test server was shut down, so don't blame Nexon for not catching bugs. There is only so much you can catch just by reading the code, especially on such large programs. [/quote]
While it is partly our fault as players and while glitches are hard to catch, Nexon should at least try to minimize glitches before releasing content and then having to do 3 unscheduled maintenance.
[quote=Lecarde] And no, there does not have ot be something wrong for players to complain. Most of the players on GMS are Americans, and we are fond of complaining over nothing. A ton of players complain when Nexon takes the game offline to fix bugs and glitches that enable hackers. Do you want hackers or do you not want them? You guys have to make up your minds[/quote]
I don't think other games have nearly this amount of complainers, American or not. And again, one of the main reasons people complain about the game being offline is because they could have spent more time beforehand.
Sorry for the late response by the way.
@MangoCoffee: Well your post was excessively long and said nothing important to me so I never made it to the end tbh
Any game will have glitches and hackers. Nexon has far fewer people working for it than Blizzard or Jagex does, so it makes sense that it is a lot harder for them to take care of these things in a timely manner. And I am not sure why everyone complains about the word filter thing, it has never been a problem to me, and they recently updated it anyhow because you can now say event in game, my alliance has been throwing that word around like crazy, so it can't have been as bad as it was purported to be.
The gap between the rich and the poor will always happen in a capitalist system, and Maplestory is very much a capitalist system. The only way Nexon could possibly alleviate that gap permanently is by getting rid of potentials and lowering the chance of boom on all scrolls while simultaneously raising their chances of success (something that recently came in a patch to KMS, so we should get it around march, the scrolls I mean). Also Nexon needs to stop giving out +7, +8, and +9 scrolls at events, that does nothing to close the gap, it just contributes to breaking the mechanics of the game even further. The pay to win system sucks, but RED was a step in the right direction, and the next few patches on KMS keep closing the gap further.
If you noticed though, Nexon used to catch more of the glitches up front in the Tespia server, but they took it down due to not nearly enough people using it to catch the major bugs, so it was essentially useless. If you can get enough people who would play it seriously enough to catch bugs then they might reopen it and then you wouldn't have so many in the game, but it was you guys, the players, that weren't using Tespia, and ultimately our fault that the test server was shut down, so don't blame Nexon for not catching bugs. There is only so much you can catch just by reading the code, especially on such large programs
And no, there does not have ot be something wrong for players to complain. Most of the players on GMS are Americans, and we are fond of complaining over nothing. A ton of players complain when Nexon takes the game offline to fix bugs and glitches that enable hackers. Do you want hackers or do you not want them? You guys have to make up your minds
I agree with the censorship, it is just getting too ridiculous lol
As for the other claims, you get what you put in the game is all i can say, there is a difference between people who just spends, and people who know how to spend. Who wants to play a game with a communist economy...
[quote=Lecarde]You do realize that not everything Nexon Korea does is good for the game, Additional options and MEEs are not good for the game mechanics, no matter how much any of us might have wanted them and Nexon America realized that and never put them in. Furthermore, they are at least trying to reach out to the player community and improve the game based on our suggestions, something that everyone here was quick to shoot down and label as false advertising, tbh if Nexon realizes that you people complain whether or not they actually try to improve the game they will stop trying and it will get even worse[/quote]
I specifically said at the end that KMS isn't great, they have their faults too. And I personally think that Nexon's idea of improving the game based on our suggestions is a good idea. I didn't shoot it down. But is the game really in a good state when compared to others? There are countless glitches, illegitimate players running rampant, legitimate players being falsely banned, entire conversations almost indecipherable, a vast gap between the rich and poor, and an absolutely terrible pay to win system. If players complain, it's because something is wrong. Even though there is always that pessimistic portion of the population, to have this many people complaining is something to worry about.
You do realize that not everything Nexon Korea does is good for the game, Additional options and MEEs are not good for the game mechanics, no matter how much any of us might have wanted them and Nexon America realized that and never put them in. Furthermore, they are at least trying to reach out to the player community and improve the game based on our suggestions, something that everyone here was quick to shoot down and label as false advertising, tbh if Nexon realizes that you people complain whether or not they actually try to improve the game they will stop trying and it will get even worse
The way that they can't riddle out scammers & ban correctly ticks me off the most
And then there is the classic argument of "Pay-to-Win" system
@Iwantodrawnowhu @johnhugh Thank you for your consideration
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@iCygnic Thank you for your opinion.
can we talk about the glitch with Zero being able to dc other people in the map eg: HoH when he attacks.
alright lets change some laws and have everyone register with their phone # or whatever that KSN system is!
While I see you put a lot of effort into this thread I don't think it was worth it simply because mr. b changed the way bumping works, this thread will disappear rather quickly.
But I agree with most of it.
I am a lazy little poop and didn't read
tldr isnt short enough