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What they also need to do is not make some weapons redundant.

Example: 2H Blunt Weapons are largely pointless even more most pallies. 2H axes are at least an alternative for heros since they're cheaper than 2h swords and higher levels ones are literally just 2h swords except in axe form (has the same stats and weapon speed) 2h blunt weapons are out classed by 1h swords and blunt weapons due to shield mastery (and the benefits of using a shield for attack) and even in RED when rosaries are counted for shield mastery, swords apparently are stronger than blunt weapons in the long run.

Wands. 'Nuff said.

doesnt zero use 2 different weapon type that is also new weapon. more money for nexon

@ReFightPwnz:
They make quite a bit already and im not sure how much exactly but i can assure you it's a decent amount assuming every player spends spends an average of 10$ a month(which ofc is a made up #).

As a company, nexon should be smart enoug to make that decision as in the long term, it can promote player statisfaction and actually "pay" more. I can see the issue there but it's not even that far of a leap.

Since they care so much about money, they couldve realized that this could generate more money...

[quote=ikickazzxd]But i think most of their revenue from NX doesn't come from people buying 90 day NX clothes but actually cubes, prem boxes, and gacha.

And i feel they would get more "money" if they actually lowered the price and people would be more willing to spend since they can buy more, cheaply.[/quote]

The thing is here, I think they aren't lowering for the sake of them not knowing if people will buy it as much and they would make the same revenue. They already make tons of money through Maple, I think they don't want to take any risks with their revenue.

Ok I went to bed after my last reply and wow you guys sure like to discuss!
Many of you have made valid points (can't be bothered tagging) and yes, I too think that Nexon's main profit comes from miracle cubes and 90 day NX.
I'm just saying that if the Cash Shop was a little cheaper and actually worth my money ($1.80 for stat configuration?), I'd buy it until it was sold out.

Also, just making it clear that I'm not demanding these changes and I don't hate them with all my heart.
I LIKE new classes and I LIKE glowing swords, I just don't like them being thrown at us so quickly that "OMG NEW CLASS" is slowly becoming "HOLD UP, I'M STILL LEVEL 80! CRAP GOTTA TRAIN BEFORE EVENT ENDS".

And I really do hope that the Red update improves things. Not quite sure about the 1v100 thing. Sounds slightly... laggy.

Yeah, after Evans they went downhill...

I don't think we have too many weapon types; Lets assume for the moment we DO get EVERYTHING that came with RED (which isn't completely impossible since profit wise its actually the smart thing to do), that means the funded / unfunded gap closes by potentially (dem puns) alot due to the fact that even the unfunded can get things like cubes, guardian scrolls, shielding wards, etc; without the use of NX, albeit it takes a bit longer. Hell Zero is the FIRST class that you can fund to a massive level without spending a single dime due to the way its unique weapon system works @ spending weapon points to change potentials.

I do agree that we get classes too quickly however; though they seem to have slowed down a bit recently in KMS, since we won't be getting a new class for 5~6 months now (and no, I do not count the revamped Cygnus Knights as new classes since they still use all the same stuff they used to, and are just that; revamps)

If anyone wants to counter my points, I'd love to discuss it =P

[quote=0DeathTheKid]Not like someone's making you play it.[/quote]

Plot twist: If OP does not become as godly as Paying before the end of the year he/she will bring great dishonor to duh family, and must commit seppuku.

I love the fact they are releasing so many new chars lol, it only takes like 10 hrs to get it to 120 and by then you have seen all it has to offer( and get the lvl 2 link skill MWAHAHA), then you can move on. I rather not have to wait 6 months for another class or content tbh. If anything they just need to fix the currently broken ones so we can actually utilise it to it's full extent instead of it being broken or unbeatable 70% of the time and then breaking down whenever a new patch is released.

Lets not forget the mention that European MS took away a lot of potential players for [b]Global[/b].
Basically, a lot of people are leaving because they can't play with other friends or the fact that the servers are dieing out.

I don't mind the weapon locking, honestly. Be happy your armor isn't class locked. That'd be far worse.

What does your filibuster after the third paragraph has to do with too many weapons? Maybe because you have lack of focus.

Nexon is getting greedy with all the dough there getting, So they don't give a * on what content there giving. Once they realize they screwed up

Nexon's Boss: We need more money.
Nexon's Worker 1:Lets get more Cash Shop related events.
Nexon's Worker 2:Lets let KMS do all the work
Nexon's Boss: Hmmm Great ideas!
After that they laughed and laughed like crazy at us... </3

After Unleashed Came Out
Nexon's Worker 1: Lets not add SoKs into the Unleashed Shop
Nexon's Worker 2: We want the players to buy them
Nexon's Boss: ALL THIS DOUGH WELL BE RICH!

They Find out all the players are leaving
Nexon's Boss: Oh no everyone's leaving!
Nexon's Worker 1: Quick we need to give them better stuff
Nexon's Boss: Hurry, more events better items!

*Nexon's Boss lays on His/Her's bed and starts crying*
Nexon's Boss: I really screwed up *sniff*
Nexon's Boss: Quick we got to get our act together at start working to satisfy out players not leech money off of them
Nexon's Workers 1-50: *Works to satisfy the players*

The End

[quote=ReFightPwnz]I agree with the TS. This game is becoming more and more of a P2W kind of game where you pay to get the good scrolls or the good cubes. Like other people have said, Nexon is doing this to gain money. But also I feel they are releasing classes faster and faster due to the fact that people complain we aren't getting the stuff the other MS's are getting, ie : Updates from KMS, etc. The weapons though, I feel just like the TS, need to be less class locked and more general. It gives the people who want to play old classes like explorers a better chance cause they don't have to see only like Shining Rods or Katanas out there for sale. Also on the topic of NX, they had the idea of cash shop sharing before for explorers, but I guess they ditched the idea. If you made miracle cubes cheaper, the economy would probably boom and the profit would probably be good. On the other hand, perm nx bought in the Cash Shop might be a problem if you consider the fact if they add shared Cash Shops inventories. Then people wouldn't buy as much nx clothes and the money from that would decrease.[/quote]

But i think most of their revenue from NX doesn't come from people buying 90 day NX clothes but actually cubes, prem boxes, and gacha.

And i feel they would get more "money" if they actually lowered the price and people would be more willing to spend since they can buy more, cheaply.

You're going to complain if they don't put content for a really long time, you're going to complain if they put too much content? I dun understand.

I really agree lol. Same with mastery books. Many too many fricken classes </3

You touch my tralala, my ding ding dong.

Most idiotic rant evear

I agree with the TS. This game is becoming more and more of a P2W kind of game where you pay to get the good scrolls or the good cubes. Like other people have said, Nexon is doing this to gain money. But also I feel they are releasing classes faster and faster due to the fact that people complain we aren't getting the stuff the other MS's are getting, ie : Updates from KMS, etc. The weapons though, I feel just like the TS, need to be less class locked and more general. It gives the people who want to play old classes like explorers a better chance cause they don't have to see only like Shining Rods or Katanas out there for sale. Also on the topic of NX, they had the idea of cash shop sharing before for explorers, but I guess they ditched the idea. If you made miracle cubes cheaper, the economy would probably boom and the profit would probably be good. On the other hand, perm nx bought in the Cash Shop might be a problem if you consider the fact if they add shared Cash Shops inventories. Then people wouldn't buy as much nx clothes and the money from that would decrease.

I just want nexon to stop making sword/sword like weapons. >.<

Fan
Shining Rod
Dual Bowguns
Katana
Katara
Cannon
Desperado
Whip Blade
But if you think about it, explorers branch off and everyone has their own weapon, except for mages. Like pirates get knuckles and guns.

Didn't there use to be one of those yellow tips that said 'Purchasing NX doesn't give players an in-game advantage'?

Also, i dont understand why Nexon doesnt do more to retain their players. It's quite evident that the players are willing to PAY for benefits already desipite its already high price .
If they truly wanted to milk more money, they would lower the cube price a bit and maybe make NX perm in the cash shop and possibly impletement better rewards for bosses. If they did this and gained better customer satisfaction continious people will more than likely spend even more when they have more faith in Nexon.

Now everyone is complaining how maplestory is pay2win. It definitely is but make it ACTUALLY worth spending NX/real life currency on.

I know i would cube more and buy more NX if each dollar of NX i bought could be used for MORE things.

[quote=xKimyAran]Just going to point out that this isn't a very good comparison. Smoking is just BAD for you, it KILLS you, so obviously people shouldn't smoke. Maplestory is a game. It's not gonna kill anyone. I'm 100% content with the game and I'm kinda hating on anyone who wants to ''save me'', because I don't think there's anything to save here. That kinda reminds me of when my mom says ''And if your friends threw themselves off a bridge, would you do it too?'' No, mom, obviously not. But maybe I do want this new brand of hairbands because my friends all have it and it looks great.[/quote]

Hmm yes true but I couldn't think of anything else. Q___Q
I just don't like it when people say "don't like it, don't play" because obviously if I hated it I would leave. You wouldn't say "don't like it, don't look" to your teachers because they're just trying to help. They could quit their crappy job and go be some famous author if they wanted to but they like and chose teaching and they want you to be the best you can be. I could quit Maplestory and its messed up economy with filler content for some other game but I like it here, I don't know why but I'd hate to see my favourite game crumble down.

[quote=NekoChan]If you call this content then you sure enjoy taking it to the ass, because this crap is just filler.

Edit: Reworded -
Slightly agree with the TS, the problem isn't that there are too many weapons, and not allowing transfer of old weapons. The problem is that these new weapons are job locked. Why can't the shining rods be used by normal mages, maybe not BaMs because they need staves, but an adventurer mage and evan should be able to use them. Same with desperados, why can't heroes and paladins use them. If Nexon is going to release so many new weapons, making them job locked is completely stupid, they should make them weapons for new jobs [b]and[/b] an alternative for old ones. I'd friggin love to see my hero having a sword on her back while in stand position, rather than holding it in a large clunky and unattractive way. Also, why can't my shadower use a blade whip? I'd enjoy using assassinate and seeing that thing being whipped all around.[/quote]

OMG YES!
That would be great! Desperados are pretty, you have to admit, and I'd love to play on a Mihile with a desperado. DOUBLE GLOW EFFECT!
I don't mind the Hero classes so much because they ARE the 5 heroes. If maple didn't move the spotlight of the 5 heroes so much, I wouldn't care at all. It would be like a unique thing for heroes only but with all these new classes, Q____Q

@ElfSlayer
I'd like to see a shared cash inventory as well

[quote=0DeathTheKid]Simple:
if you're not happy with the game don't play it.
Not like someone's making you play it.[/quote]

^this.
Awesome name, btw.

This sista PREACHES THE TRUTH! YOU GO GIRL.

More weapons is fine for me
what I want are the unique weapons such as surfboard for polearm and umbrella for sword, they need more of those for new weapon types (pardon my bad english)

[quote=alvintheazn]ITT: complaining about the game having too much content[/quote]

It's more of having too much content released so quickly with sloppy quality. Nexon could just take it a tad bit slower and put more quality into the stuff and have more GM events in the middle to keep us entertained.

Then again... people would just whinge about how the content is too slow and the GMs should stop "mucking around".

@0DeathTheKid
Not as simple as it seems. I'm an avid fan of MapleStory and I loved the game but over the years, my mapling experience has gotten a whole lot worse. I'm not just going to simply leave a game which once brought me joy, I'm going to stand by it and somehow (SOMEHOW(icantevendoanything)) improve it. If my friend started smoking and I knew it was giving them terrible health risks, I'm not going to simply leave them because he stinks, I'm going to help him. Maybe if a lot of people have the same views as me, we could somehow (SOMEHOW) get Nexon's attention.
They've listened to us in the past, maybe they're still listening somewhere...

@ikickazzxd
I agree with you as well. If NX stuff was actually worth the money, I would spend heaps. It's not a matter of I don't have enough money, it's more of whether it's worth my money or not. If NX stuff was cheaper, I would get off my lazy ass and work until I had enough money to buy the NX. $300 for a godly weapon is just ridiculous. $100 is already crazy and the fact that Nexon waits until everyone has cubed their hacked items to remove them from people just makes me not want to touch NX at all.

I agree. I would spent a lot more money on NX if it was cheaper and actually worth the dollars invested into it.
I don't understand why Nexon doesn't see that.
they'll still make profit if they make cubes and clothing NX a bit cheaper. They might lose a tad bit profit maybe? but they'll boost customer satisfaction by so much it'll be better in the long run.

ofc Nexon doesnt understand this..

More weapons = More people buying cubes = More $$$ for Nexon.

I remember when people said that the release of allowing pets to pick up items created a unfair playing gap. As long as money is involved their will be disparity. Whether that's fair lies solely in Nexon hands.

ITT: complaining about the game having too much content

more money for nexon