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Just reading your guys' posts... My 2 mains are wind archer and thunder breaker, so
I have a dawn warrior but it has just become a mule because it's clunky and to be honest does not have the potential to be a good class for end game bossing. It is outshined by almost every single warrior. @dablunt

Wind archer on ele resist bosses is now the strongest archer class for sure. That part is not really debatable. You can head over to the archer forums and see for yourself, someone has a spreadsheet with DPM calculations for all the archers. It is also realistic for wind archer as they have the easiest time dpsing (hold down your song key and wind walk to dodge stuff).

Thunder breaker is a fun class that's also pretty strong (although I would say that Wind Archer is now stronger both theoretically and realistically) but it has some drawbacks and certain bosses can be a huge pain. e.g. Chaos Queen (anyone that's done this as a TB knows what I'm talking about).

You also have to keep in mind that half of thunder breakers "hits" are only 40%, whereas all of wind archers "hits" are the full damage of the skill. Shadow partner classes can be a little deceptive with hits/s. I would be curious to see what your source is for being over 25 hits/s because that seems very high considering shadow partner hits should be counted as 0.4 of a hit. @inuyou

[quote=dablunt]@inuyou: 1) we are comparing the Cygnus class, i never stated anything about WA's vs other archers
2) They dont need to cap to beat DW's, if the 2 where equally funded with all there hypers vs a boss WA still has a higher DPS then a DW.[/quote]

TB = Thunder Breaker not archer

@inuyou: 1) we are comparing the Cygnus class, i never stated anything about WA's vs other archers
2) They dont need to cap to beat DW's, if the 2 where equally funded with all there hypers vs a boss WA still has a higher DPS then a DW.

@dablunt: thanks tips I had a WA before I deleted it. TB Still does over 25 lines per second so I don't see how a WA is better than that either

Really WA's aren't that great sorry to say there's waaay better archers out there and cygnus knights lol

The only time your argument is valid is under perfect conditions with damage cap btw

@inuyou SoH does 370% damage on 4 mobs now and 10% more for every 1 less mod = 400% (8.33 hits/s) on 1v1. Trifling Wind with max hypers actives at a 60% rate, summons 5 shards at like 300% damage, when facing a single target each shard hits 2 times. The lv 150 hyper is another FA skill that actives at a 30% rate doing 500% damage. so 8.33 hits/s with a 60% chance of summoning TW and 30% chance of summoning the 150 hyper with perfect conditions that's 4.99 activations of TW 5 shards per activation and those shards hit 2 times each + 2.499 activations of the 150 hyper so.....yea Wind Archers r@pe DW's at bossing anyday. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_88o-JBjkFM]This is before all TW hypers are maxed[/url]

You can use equinox cycle properly, if you have better than wal-mart internet and aren't playing from another continent!
and LOL @ WA being strongest

@iDropTheBass WA > TB > DW, until you can use Equinox cycle properly DW's dps is bich slapped hard. I have all 3 too

DW > TB > WA

i have all 3

How do you think they stand up in terms of DPS vs the other Cygnus Knights?

If you utilize your buffs properly it's better than gale + thunderbolt now

Nice to finally get to use the boss skill and not feel like a baddie