How long should it take to draw and paint a little doodle?

edit: change of quesion. Is it really that hard to doodle and paint something in 20 minutes? the 'something' in question is at the bottom. I posted a screen a while ago, and people were sayin that there was no way i drew what i drew in the alotted time frame i mentioned.
I did draw the screen in 20 minutes since it was for a speed paint contest and we weren't given anytime to draw more before voting. I snapped the photo before voting and still have the unfinished art work

Anyway, i just want to know if it really is that impossible to draw a quick doodle in 20 minutes and paint it. people were also mentioning that it would have taken them 20 minutes just to find a pencil, but since it was a controlled competition setting, paints (already wet), pencils, paper, pens, timers, etc, were already laided out so we werent running around looking for them.
The pose was also common so it's a pose that i'm very familiar with drawing and doesn't use up much thought on my part, that's why the anatomy took such a short period of time to draw.
I started drawing so class wouldn't be so boring, and in a period of a class (50 minutes), I can draw dozens upon dozens of these doodles. (my notebooks are all proof of this). When I was finishing up my art credits, I'd finish projects in one day and chat with my friends the rest of the weeks that we were given to do the project.
So how long SHOULD it take to draw and paint a little doodle like that one I posted?

The 'pirate - doodle' screen is the one in question. I'll post link in a sec. edit: http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/224102/0/Pirate__doodle.html

January 20, 2013

22 Comments • Newest first

GenuineLaughter

[quote=Rationale]I want to become more comfortable with Jimmy.[/quote]

I genuinely laughed. eve

Reply January 28, 2013

GenuineLaughter

[quote=MickyBumBum]...I was more curious to see if the art community on basil were able to draw as quick as I. [/quote]

I'll satisfy your curiosity and say yes.

Like Jimmy said, it's all about how comfortable you are with your medium.

Reply January 27, 2013

WorkOfArt

20 minutes seems reasonable. Many full body sketches can take as little as 5 minutes for even amateurs, as long as they've really learned their anatomy and proportion. Some professionals can do a well-proportioned one in as little as 3 minutes. Faces are quick too, if you've practiced the position a lot. The color strokes definitely speak quick painting, so there's no doubt that may have taken 5 ish minutes.

Anyways, it's very possible to achieve good drawings in a very short time. When practicing tone and pose, it takes about 30 seconds for a gesture, 1 minute a body form and shape, 6 to 10 minutes for me to sketch a well proportioned (not perfect yet) pose, and about 10 minutes to color it, maybe less. (these are times per, not total time).

Check out what this guy does in just one or two hours..

One: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/736355_4744741308109_1459913245_o.jpg
Two: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/601054_4771954188414_2045234362_n.jpg
25 minutes: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522421_4351111307605_1236383280_n.jpg

Reply January 27, 2013

MickyBumBum

[quote=jimmyjxia]based on your strokes i can tell you're probably comfortable with ink, so it probably wouldn't take you more than 20 minutes, especially if you knew what you were doing

shows how comfortable you are, that's for sure.

though i dont really see the need to post a thread here since it isn't that big of a deal to fuss over. im pretty sure the people who said 'no way 20 minutes!' were only intending to compliment you, not legitimately question your honesty. (except that one guy, but he did have a case. you do try to display faux humility in your posts and it does downplay your art)[/quote]

I understood where he was coming from about the faux humility, and I could see his point view, that's why I didn't say much against it. I gave him my explanations for what I wrote. He chose not to believe what I said, so I just kinda shrugged him off. I really don't mind though, since I was at fault for writing without thinkin. I wrote what I wrote because it was just what I was thinking at the time of typing.

You're not askin for any, but here's just a bit of clarity on why I used my word choices of "walmart brush" and "left over water colors"
The brush is one of those plastic-y bristly brushes that you give you kids to mess around with. I do have a better brush, but since the person I was speed painting against only had the 'walmart' brush and my friends always make fun of me for being ridiculously cheap, I was given the 'walmart' brush, and she had the opportunity to use the branded one. Of course, since the 'walmart' brush was emphasized so much, it's what popped up when I was writing the description. It was typed for the humor of the friend I planned to send the link to.
As for the 'leftover watercolors'. I dug into my teachers closet at class and "borrowed" some of her water color tubes. I took a tray from dinner that I had brought to class and literally just chose a bunch of colors I wanted and squeezed them into the tray and drove home. (I didn't take a lot, I promise.) I ran out of those colors eventually and bought my own set after that.
For 'doodle'... well... in my own personal opinion, it falls under the category of 'doodle'.

The reason I posted a thread though was due to something said outside of Basil. I was in a huge scuffle over it with some street art that I did and a video that had been spread around. Some people were claiming that I sped up the video and put it back to normal speed when I was talking. It, btw, was also done in around 20 minutes (23 minutes to be exact), so combined with the comments on basil, I just kinda threw up this thread.

(It was spread on Facebook among a private street art group. Since it was graffiti and our faces were not covered, I won't be linking it to here. I removed it eventually after the fight, anyway.)

This thread was put up in good humor. I was more curious to see if the art community on basil were able to draw as quick as I. I have some wording issues though... as you can see, I changed the question several times, and still feel like changing it. I'm not the brightest person in the world, sorry for that.
I know the people who commented meant it in a positive light (thanks :-) )
I apologize for the accidental faux humility(?). I don't mind that it downplays my art, since self satisfaction is my main reason for drawing, but I apologize since it got some people mad. That being said, I'll be removing the time and materials used from my future screens. I don't plan on posting many more screens, anyway since I just realized that I don't really have a reason for posting them. I'll post a couple from time to time.
Thank you for the response. I tried to sound scholarly! :-D

Reply January 27, 2013

jimmyjxia

based on your strokes i can tell you're probably comfortable with ink, so it probably wouldn't take you more than 20 minutes, especially if you knew what you were doing

shows how comfortable you are, that's for sure.

Reply January 23, 2013 - edited

MickyBumBum

[quote=ksc16424]yeah, it looks about 20 minutes; and the breakdown time seems pretty realistic; and I can see that happening.
time worked on a drawing really isnt a huge deal, its just how much time YOU as the artist see fit to spend on that drawing.
Some artists spend 3 hours while others spend over 20 hours.
(I'm pretty slow, wish i could raw abit faster; but theres no rush for me.)[/quote]

yeah, thanks :-)
I was more or less confused to the controversy surrounding my drawing time :I
Apparently, I drew impossibly fast and that makes me a liar ._.

Reply January 22, 2013 - edited

ksc16424

yeah, it looks about 20 minutes; and the breakdown time seems pretty realistic; and I can see that happening.
time worked on a drawing really isnt a huge deal, its just how much time YOU as the artist see fit to spend on that drawing.
Some artists spend 3 hours while others spend over 20 hours.
(I'm pretty slow, wish i could raw abit faster; but theres no rush for me.)

Reply January 22, 2013 - edited

MickyBumBum

[quote=stargirl705]@MickyBumBum: i would love to see a video of the process <3 and ahh,, yeah the paper looks so perfectly intact i was wondering (x[/quote]

Sure, I'm going to do another speed draw contest this friday, I'll attempt to record the session.

@aerogaa
thank you! :-)

Reply January 22, 2013 - edited

Aerogaa

I can totally see that being possible in 20 minutes. Like what people said before it really depends. You can watch professionals paint an entire scene in a matter of hours while someone can sit for months mulling over the same thing. It depends on how comfortable you are with your medium and how well you understand the form itself. You being able to do this in 20 minutes means you clearly had an idea and a direction of what you planned to do. You understand the body (and done the pose enough) to be able to quickly sketch it with little error, and have used watercolors before, enabling you to work with them quickly and efficiently.

It's possible and you should feel good that you could do this in 20 minutes.

Reply January 21, 2013 - edited

MickyBumBum

[quote=stargirl705]so you inked after the watercolouring? wouldn't it take a bit to dry?

and what kind of paper did you use for that piece? (:[/quote]

It didn't take long dry. I painted top to bottom, then went back up and inked top to bottom.
I think I used Strathmore recycled sketch paper. Not meant for watercolors :I . I messed up the paper but it didn't really show once the paint dried

Reply January 21, 2013 - edited

pinksinsftw

Depends on the control one has over the medium and the process being taken to achieve the end result.