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Phantom Blow Range

From what I remember nexon increased the range of phantom blow then decreased it again during the RED updates. But the notes on orange mushroom never said if it was shrunk back to its original range or if it was longer than before. Could anybody who has tried the new kms dual blade tell me how much the range on phantom blow changed by?

Thanks

August 28, 2013

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OmgItsMazz

@DxidunnoxD Depends on your luck but it cost me around 30mil meso in total, and yeah if you're farming charm anyway you should fuse the gloves - you get 80 charm per glove normally, so 2 coins can get you 240 charm instead of 160 (buy 2 gloves, equip both, fuse 2 gloves together to equip again). No problem

Reply September 2, 2013
DxidunnoxD

@OmgItsMazz: Very interesting, and you have tested this all yourself? How much did/would it cost to make decent hb pants :o? Good stuff I was already thinking about the von leon gloves thing since I'm going to be farming the charm anyways but didn't know it would actually be efficient lol. Thanks for the tip

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
OmgItsMazz

@DxidunnoxD: Oops, my mistake, I thought it was the same DR as Von Leon, but you're right it is ~27-33k.

With Alchemy you can get Decent HB pants without too much investment, buy a bunch of level 70 pants from an NPC and fuse them all together, if you're lucky you'll reveal some that are Unique (and if you're really lucky you could reveal some with Decent HB on already!), with the Unique tier Occult cubes from Root Abyss it's possible to get Decent HB without too much trouble. I did the same with level 120 gloves from Von Leon, took me around 15mil meso in fusion stones and ~80 Von Leon coins and 3 Miracle Cubes and I got some Decent SE gloves.

Reply September 2, 2013 - edited
DxidunnoxD

[quote=OmgItsMazz]It is, unfortunately. The DR statue hits 20k though so you could probably get your HP up to 22-23k and just watch out for DR while attacking. Decent Hyper Body isn't particularly difficult to get with Occult Cubes/alchemy, willpower is another easy (if you're patient) 2k HP, chaos zakum helmet for 10% HP, etc

It's still possible for DBs to kill PB (+ statues) without Vampire, it's just a little more annoying. Personally I did the quest chain and got Vampire, it's a useful skill and it looks pretty cool [/quote]

Does the dr statue only hit that little? I thought it hit up to like 30k and also read some sources say like 33.3k. Also could elaborate on the Decent Hyper Body isn't hard to get if it isn't too much trouble :o.
http://www.basilmarket.com/show/monster/463

Reply September 1, 2013 - edited
OmgItsMazz

[quote=BimmieMcGee]Say it ain't so :[[/quote]

It is, unfortunately. The DR statue hits 20k though so you could probably get your HP up to 22-23k and just watch out for DR while attacking. Decent Hyper Body isn't particularly difficult to get with Occult Cubes/alchemy, willpower is another easy (if you're patient) 2k HP, chaos zakum helmet for 10% HP, etc

It's still possible for DBs to kill PB (+ statues) without Vampire, it's just a little more annoying. Personally I did the quest chain and got Vampire, it's a useful skill and it looks pretty cool

Reply September 1, 2013 - edited
BimmieMcGee

[quote=OmgItsMazz]Phantom Blow post RED still cannot hit the owl statues at Pink Bean. Tested it with Shade Split which has the same range as new PB, and that couldn't reach unless you go out of the safe zone.

We're stuck with Vampire/Chains of Hell.[/quote]

Say it ain't so :[

Reply September 1, 2013 - edited
DxidunnoxD

[quote=OmgItsMazz]Phantom Blow post RED still cannot hit the owl statues at Pink Bean. Tested it with Shade Split which has the same range as new PB, and that couldn't reach unless you go out of the safe zone.

We're stuck with Vampire/Chains of Hell.[/quote]

Aw darn :< useless new range.

Reply August 31, 2013 - edited
OmgItsMazz

Phantom Blow post RED still cannot hit the owl statues at Pink Bean. Tested it with Shade Split which has the same range as new PB, and that couldn't reach unless you go out of the safe zone.

We're stuck with Vampire/Chains of Hell.

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
BimmieMcGee

[quote=DrkMace]This is the reason why I would fuss over it. I don't solo pink bean, but I would like to try. The only way for a db to solo pink bean is to kill that tower with vampire. A skill that requires sundews...an item that's harder to find than peridots and vampire doesn't really hit that high as I would imagine with my range. So a longer phantom blow would help out bossing DBs who need to keep their distance away from the boss[/quote]

Just use Asura to kill really fast. If your range is high enough, you should be able to dispose of the annoying owl statues pretty quickly.
That's how I've been able to solo. No Vampire and CoH is annoying

@oakmontowls: LOL that IGN.

@kennyowns: As stated before, it really does matter in situations such as PB. Also longer range is always nice. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
oakmontowls

they added 30 to the range
From [url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-195&lty=-70&rbx=0&rby=0&size=1366]195%[/url] to [url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-225&lty=-112&rbx=0&rby=0&size=1366]225%[/url]

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
CowfrmSpace

[quote=kennyowns]@MrSimple: I know you didn't, I'm just saying don't get your undies in a bunch over a stupid question.[/quote]
I laughed really hard at this because you're the one that seems to have gotten his knickers in a knot because of a stupid question.

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
DxidunnoxD

[quote=DrkMace]This is the reason why I would fuss over it. I don't solo pink bean, but I would like to try. The only way for a db to solo pink bean is to kill that tower with vampire. A skill that requires sundews...an item that's harder to find than peridots and vampire doesn't really hit that high as I would imagine with my range. So a longer phantom blow would help out bossing DBs who need to keep their distance away from the boss[/quote]

Actually you can but it require you doing very op damage and kill it in seconds which most people including myself don't have lmao

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
bread123

I think phantom blows delay has been decreased also from 810ms-720ms

Reply August 30, 2013 - edited
GrammarJew

[quote=kennyowns]Does it seriously affect you that much, is one skill's range really going to make you quit your DB? Seriously, worrying about PB's range -_-[/quote]

It's not a deal breaker for me, but I'd sure appreciate a longer range on Phantom Blow because I can't hit the bird statue in Pink Bean without triggering DR with the current PB animation. So you can see why some people would like to have this information.

Reply August 29, 2013 - edited
DrkMace

[quote=DemonDausu]It's actually a big deal for the DBs that fight Pink Bean lol[/quote]

This is the reason why I would fuss over it. I don't solo pink bean, but I would like to try. The only way for a db to solo pink bean is to kill that tower with vampire. A skill that requires sundews...an item that's harder to find than peridots and vampire doesn't really hit that high as I would imagine with my range. So a longer phantom blow would help out bossing DBs who need to keep their distance away from the boss

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
Grim

I haven't tried but I remember reading on Orangemushroom that they decreased it again in RED but when I checked the KMS update it said that the range was increased so I'm guessing they decreased it in KMSt and then decided that was a bad idea and increased it when they brought the changes over to KMS.

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
TrumanB

[quote=kennyowns]@MrSimple: I know you didn't, I'm just saying don't get your undies in a bunch over a stupid question.[/quote]

Lol. He just wants to be informative. Give him some slack.

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
kennyowns

@MrSimple: I know you didn't, I'm just saying don't get your undies in a bunch over a stupid question.

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
DemonDausu

It's actually a big deal for the DBs that fight Pink Bean lol

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
MrSimple

[quote=kennyowns]Does it seriously affect you that much, is one skill's range really going to make you quit your DB? Seriously, worrying about PB's range -_-[/quote]

I never said anything about quitting, I'm just wondering how far PB hits now since it's not stated specifically in the notes

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited
kennyowns

Does it seriously affect you that much, is one skill's range really going to make you quit your DB? Seriously, worrying about PB's range -_-

Reply August 28, 2013 - edited