[quote=calabari]I feel like this comparison to heroes is bad. Heroes have really low ranges compared to their damage, so of course with a similar range you will be hitting less. I would compare kaiser's range more to that of a bm.
OT: Kaisers are strong unfunded, but plateau very quickly. Like extremely quickly. It will take tons of funding to cap on a kaiser but once you get there you really don't have much competition in terms of dps.[/quote]
That's the exaggerated point I was looking to make; Heroes have higher damage than their range might suggest, and vice versa for Kaisers.
[quote=Simfel]@NeozWarriorx If you're hitting 1/2 the damage of a Hero of your same range, don't worry about it.[/quote]
I feel like this comparison to heroes is bad. Heroes have really low ranges compared to their damage, so of course with a similar range you will be hitting less. I would compare kaiser's range more to that of a bm.
OT: Kaisers are strong unfunded, but plateau very quickly. Like extremely quickly. It will take tons of funding to cap on a kaiser but once you get there you really don't have much competition in terms of dps.
[quote=hangwithhung]@killinme you're killing me haha if I could have that kind of meso... Care to share how you did it? I'm interested in optimizing my funding to self-gear everything instead of burning all my mesos on clean equips and whatnot x_x[/quote]
Sure. First off I take advantage of events. Perfect example we just recently had fever time. Thats the perfect time to trace your gears. If you don't have lv.100 dilligence let a guildee or friend do it for you. It saves you a lot more mesos seeing that they would have a better success rate of tracing your equips. As a result you buy less clean slates. Root abyss gears tend to take the most out of your mesos besides tyrants. For tyrants which will contribute greatly to your range. Instead buying it out the fm you can stock up on your coins which takes time but saves you from buying some overpriced item. Go on hard mag runs for your capes. Theres also gollux equips, save your gollux coins, buy the equips from gollux shop and scroll them yourself. These 3 are the major contributor to your range. Most people would rather just buy their equips already made they prefer not to wait. So they will tend to to spend more in the long run rather than someone who waits for the right opportunity. Of course potential items factors in as well. You will be surprise of the amount of cubes that you will run through when bossing over time. You may not pay it any mind if one drops and someone elses grabs it but it does makes a difference. Take a closer look to the people who asks for the cubes. if they carry you on a run they would let you take xyz except the cubes. These people tend to be the ones selling the godly items or are already funded 8/10. They use those cubes to help them eliminate some of the need to to cube items from rare to unique. That saves money. Really when you look at it its more about being patient and taking advantage of opportunities if you want to spend less. Don't forget your link skills
But lets look at it from another perspective. Buying the equips already made. If you're taking this avenue its quite simple. It'll take a lot less time than what was mentioned above. Scan the fm and if you see something good before you just hop on it unless its really really cheap. Give it a few more minutes before you buy it. Why? Because if you wait a bit more you tend to find an even lower price due to the fact that people like to undercut others.
@killinme you're killing me haha if I could have that kind of meso... Care to share how you did it? I'm interested in optimizing my funding to self-gear everything instead of burning all my mesos on clean equips and whatnot x_x
[quote=SillyBats]Okay bro. You forgot to mention the $1000 NX spent on your gear[/quote]
My gears are self made (in terms of I don't buy my equips from people) The only thing on my kaiser I have bought from someone else was a tyrant cape and only cost 4.5b. If you utilize your avenues you don't need to put in much.
Damage Hits soft but quick.Low skill %'s and no range boosters or elemental ignore given to those with similar skill %'s. However, it's rare to have less than 4 sources of damage hitting a boss at any given time.
Funding Middle of the pack when it comes to damage output vs. cost to get there. Again, so many of the Kaiser community can't get over that they chose a class that hits lower than others, while ignoring the attack speeds. If you're hitting 1/2 the damage of a Hero of your same range, don't worry about it. Probably one of the most expensive classes to cap due to str% and warrior Tyrants being so much more expensive than other classes' equipment who are comparable when they cap all their hits (Bowmaster, Mercedes, Wild Hunter, NW, BW, WA)
End Game Consistently one of the top 5 classes with the highest damage ceiling. Hits per second fall behind that of an archer class and the current NW, but surpass most other classes.
Fun Training in a big map is hard, but small maps are easily dominated. Bossing doesn't get boring because you constantly have to juggle 4~5 sources of damage.
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[quote=Killinme]Ive put in 11b mesos and im already 1.086m fully buffed o.o[/quote]
You also transfered equips from your TB? And is that in final form?
[quote=calabari]I feel like this comparison to heroes is bad. Heroes have really low ranges compared to their damage, so of course with a similar range you will be hitting less. I would compare kaiser's range more to that of a bm.
OT: Kaisers are strong unfunded, but plateau very quickly. Like extremely quickly. It will take tons of funding to cap on a kaiser but once you get there you really don't have much competition in terms of dps.[/quote]
That's the exaggerated point I was looking to make; Heroes have higher damage than their range might suggest, and vice versa for Kaisers.
[quote=Simfel]@NeozWarriorx
If you're hitting 1/2 the damage of a Hero of your same range, don't worry about it.[/quote]
I feel like this comparison to heroes is bad. Heroes have really low ranges compared to their damage, so of course with a similar range you will be hitting less. I would compare kaiser's range more to that of a bm.
OT: Kaisers are strong unfunded, but plateau very quickly. Like extremely quickly. It will take tons of funding to cap on a kaiser but once you get there you really don't have much competition in terms of dps.
play kaiser until lv120 n see if u like it, if u dont u wont lose nothing u get card Rank S gives 40str, and link skill 15%hp.
@UltimaKill3RZ: Yeah you can F off now instead of following my posts lmao
Something that you're not even gonna bother making or afford. So don't even bother.
Kaisers are fun and don't listen to what other people they're not that bad in terms of funding
[quote=hangwithhung]@killinme you're killing me haha if I could have that kind of meso...
Care to share how you did it? I'm interested in optimizing my funding to self-gear everything instead of burning all my mesos on clean equips and whatnot x_x[/quote]
Sure. First off I take advantage of events. Perfect example we just recently had fever time. Thats the perfect time to trace your gears. If you don't have lv.100 dilligence let a guildee or friend do it for you. It saves you a lot more mesos seeing that they would have a better success rate of tracing your equips. As a result you buy less clean slates. Root abyss gears tend to take the most out of your mesos besides tyrants. For tyrants which will contribute greatly to your range. Instead buying it out the fm you can stock up on your coins which takes time but saves you from buying some overpriced item. Go on hard mag runs for your capes. Theres also gollux equips, save your gollux coins, buy the equips from gollux shop and scroll them yourself. These 3 are the major contributor to your range. Most people would rather just buy their equips already made they prefer not to wait. So they will tend to to spend more in the long run rather than someone who waits for the right opportunity. Of course potential items factors in as well. You will be surprise of the amount of cubes that you will run through when bossing over time. You may not pay it any mind if one drops and someone elses grabs it but it does makes a difference. Take a closer look to the people who asks for the cubes. if they carry you on a run they would let you take xyz except the cubes. These people tend to be the ones selling the godly items or are already funded 8/10. They use those cubes to help them eliminate some of the need to to cube items from rare to unique. That saves money. Really when you look at it its more about being patient and taking advantage of opportunities if you want to spend less. Don't forget your link skills
But lets look at it from another perspective. Buying the equips already made. If you're taking this avenue its quite simple. It'll take a lot less time than what was mentioned above. Scan the fm and if you see something good before you just hop on it unless its really really cheap. Give it a few more minutes before you buy it. Why? Because
if you wait a bit more you tend to find an even lower price due to the fact that people like to undercut others.
@killinme you're killing me haha if I could have that kind of meso...
Care to share how you did it? I'm interested in optimizing my funding to self-gear everything instead of burning all my mesos on clean equips and whatnot x_x
[quote=SillyBats]Okay bro. You forgot to mention the $1000 NX spent on your gear[/quote]
My gears are self made (in terms of I don't buy my equips from people) The only thing on my kaiser I have bought from someone else was a tyrant cape and only cost 4.5b. If you utilize your avenues you don't need to put in much.
[quote=Killinme]Ive put in 11b mesos and im already 1.086m fully buffed o.o[/quote]
Okay bro. You forgot to mention the $1000 NX spent on your gear
[quote=Graystoke]One of the more expensive to fund.[/quote]
Ive put in 11b mesos and im already 1.086m fully buffed o.o
@NeozWarriorx
Damage
Hits soft but quick.Low skill %'s and no range boosters or elemental ignore given to those with similar skill %'s. However, it's rare to have less than 4 sources of damage hitting a boss at any given time.
Funding
Middle of the pack when it comes to damage output vs. cost to get there. Again, so many of the Kaiser community can't get over that they chose a class that hits lower than others, while ignoring the attack speeds. If you're hitting 1/2 the damage of a Hero of your same range, don't worry about it. Probably one of the most expensive classes to cap due to str% and warrior Tyrants being so much more expensive than other classes' equipment who are comparable when they cap all their hits (Bowmaster, Mercedes, Wild Hunter, NW, BW, WA)
End Game
Consistently one of the top 5 classes with the highest damage ceiling. Hits per second fall behind that of an archer class and the current NW, but surpass most other classes.
Fun
Training in a big map is hard, but small maps are easily dominated. Bossing doesn't get boring because you constantly have to juggle 4~5 sources of damage.
[quote=Graystoke]One of the more expensive to fund.[/quote]
still very fun to play.
[quote=Graystoke]One of the more expensive to fund.[/quote]
True.
One of the more expensive to fund.