General

Darkknight

Before you make a new thread

CHECK THIS THREAD IF YOUR QUESTION HAS BEEN COVERED BY THE FOLLOWING:

[header]Guides[/header]
[b]SKILL INFORMATION:[/b] [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Dark-Knight-Skill-Information-363.html]Guide[/url]
[b]SPEARMAN, DK, DrK:[/b] [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Official-Spearman-DK-and-DrK-Guide-280.html]Not updated IIRC, but most common questions are answered here[/URL]
[b]SP GUIDE:[/b] [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Sp-Guide----Level-by-Level-364.html]YES, IT EXISTS![/url]

[header]Training[/header]

Following is taken from one of my previous posts

1-10: Maple Island
10-20: Blue ribbon pigs/Nautilus mobs
20-30: Rotting skeletons(You can push these back to 15-30 if you want), Golems
30-35: Mushie Kingdom
35-50/45: CDs, Scarecrows
45-55: Trojians, Scarecrows
55-65: Dark Drakes/Robos, Jesters
65-70: Omega Sector/Sunset Road mobs, Jesters
70-85: Sunset Road mobs, high 70's-80's can go to Roids/MP3, Jesters
85-95: Magatia mobs, MP3, Anchors, Pirates for high 90's, Jesters
95-110: Magatia mobs, MP3, Pirates, GP/DT
110-120: LHC/DGP
120+ I have no idea , I LHC'd like a mainstream derp. ToT/SH later I suppose.

Push things back if you feel you can handle it. If they three hit you as a warrior, it's not worth it. LHC and SH cannot be pushed back from their level minimums 110 and 160 respectively.

PQ as much as you can. Daily PQs maxed should be MPQ and PPQ, all others are dependent on availability of players(try forming a small group that does daily PQs or something)

[header]ARE DrKs BETTER THAN XXX?[/header]

Long story short, probably not. We're a little bundle of fun but any funding that goes into us could probably be put to better use on another character. Jus' saying.

We're nice mobbers. That's a given. Our survivability is a big fat 0 compared to other warriors but we're still fun ): MP drains faster than you say flamingo though once you get max DI.

-citation needed-

[header]Do potatoes really grow underground? And why won't you answer my question without trolling me?[/header]

Yes, they do. And this can be answered quite nicely by Shinku:

[quote=darkspawn980]me a troll? djp2313 and me wrote a guide so that people with questions read it and understand their class better, if they can't even bother to read the guide (which, let me tell you, couldn't be easier to find what you're looking for in there) then i won't bother answering their question.

simple as that.

[b]if it's on a guide, don't expect a straight answer from the main DrK posters.[/b][/quote]

[header]LAST OF ALL.[/header]

Do not call being BLUNT or DIRECT rude. This is the Internet, not kindergarten. No-one will specially sugar coat their words juuust for you.

If we are not bluntly insulting you(intelligence is another matter), then we do not mean it as an insult. Half the time when we actually do insult you, we are trolling.

I do not know where we came from. Don't quote me on that.

IN OTHER WORDS: [b]IF YOU POST A QUESTION THAT IS ANSWERED ON A GUIDE WITHOUT THE INTENTION TO TROLL, I WILL E-SMACK YOU[/b]

May 30, 2012

33 Comments • Newest first

iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]yeh, just get me the places that, as a DrK/DK, you find greater to train in than for other classes (roar hits the whole map, mobs are tightly packed, etc) i already updated the training section in the guide and will link everyone to the actual training guide, so whatever i add should be "for spearman classes"[/quote]

Well, it turns out places like Jesters and Aliens work great for a DK anyway 8D

Reply June 2, 2012
darkspawn980

@Aura0fDeath: yeh, just get me the places that, as a DrK/DK, you find greater to train in than for other classes (roar hits the whole map, mobs are tightly packed, etc) i already updated the training section in the guide and will link everyone to the actual training guide, so whatever i add should be "for spearman classes"

Reply June 2, 2012
Aura0fDeath

@darkspawn980: i completely agree; i was just using that guide as a basis because a majority of the spots are good regardless. if you want me to, i can make a training guide similar (but not as in depth) for drks?

just let me know =)

Reply June 2, 2012
darkspawn980

@Aura0fDeath: i'd rather have it display and recommend spots that DK can enjoy more than other classes due to our skills, i can simply link people to that guide (which in fact, i'll do next time i edit it)

Reply June 2, 2012
Aura0fDeath

[quote=darkspawn980]it isn't, and there is no set ratio. it changes with every new equip you get.[/quote]

hey shinku, i know i said i would work on the training spots section, but i got a bit sidetracked with jury duty among other stuff >_< ew.

anyways, if you still want me to, i can do a semi-indepth guide for you to stick in if you want.

i was going to base it off the guide here: [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Where-To-Train-357.html]http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Where-To-Train-357.html[/url]

Reply June 2, 2012
darkspawn980

[quote=iChosenDream]@ darkspawn980 about the str:att ratio, is it already up to date? I want to know about the ratios[/quote]

it isn't, and there is no set ratio. it changes with every new equip you get.

Reply May 31, 2012
iChosenDream

@ darkspawn980 about the str:att ratio, is it already up to date? I want to know about the ratios

Reply May 31, 2012
darkspawn980

@iVege: yea, i moved the notice to the very top, and will link it as a separate part, making the >1/2/3/4 jobs as sub-headers. will add a note saying this isn't the order at which they should be maxed either

Reply May 31, 2012
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]that was there since yesterday.

clearly you need to train harder so that you notice any changes i make to the guide within half a day.[/quote]

Yes, clearly >_>;

Anyway I still see no reason why there should be an SP build there. I know it's simpler and stuff, but you're still missing out on some information. Having two different SP builds in two different guides already irk me a bit, but a DK following the general guide's build wouldn't add his SP the same way he would from the skill guide. Like shown above, I couldn't exactly locate your notice easily. Maybe add a link there to the skill guide. Will make it 66% more noticeable and 130% more convenient.

Reply May 31, 2012
darkspawn980

@iVege: that was there since yesterday.

clearly you need to train harder so that you notice any changes i make to the guide within half a day.

Reply May 31, 2012
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]Y U NO READ GUIDE?[/quote]

Oops. Busted.

[b]Clearly[/b], I was just messing with you. I [b]totally[/b] track the progress that you make.

@Edit: after 30 seconds of actually reading your guide, I couldn't find your quote.

What?

@Edit: okay nvm it took me 45 seconds to find it.

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Uh, so. Why is there still an SP build there? =/

Reply May 31, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

@iVege:

[quote=guide]anyways, since the Djp made a detailed SP thread, i'll just go over what gets maxed and what's not, useful for those event SP resets we keep getting so much[/quote]

Y U NO READ GUIDE?

Reply May 31, 2012 - edited
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]@SilentXynh: wait, i didn't replace those? could have sworn i had, LOL pretty sure i had at least reduced GS to 1[/quote]

Why are the skill builds still there anyway?

Reply May 31, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

@SilentXynh: wait, i didn't replace those? could have sworn i had, LOL pretty sure i had at least reduced GS to 1

Reply May 31, 2012 - edited
SilentXynh

@darkspawn980:
I don't see any issues with training places, but I found Blue Dragon Turtles to be pretty decent at 12x. Easy to cycle with a tiny bit of climbing (once per map cycle). Top platforms at the top and one flat-ish platform at the bottom, good for Rush + DI.

As for the SP builds in the official guide:
It should be 1 Ground Smash instead of 11. (Or 10 GS and 11 IW depending on build)
Replace Achilles with DI obviously, add Hero's Will.

Reply May 31, 2012 - edited
iVege

[quote=Smellyphant]whats a troll[/quote]

The act of singing in a (t)rolling voice.

E.g. "Ahhhhhhhhh
Ya ya yaaaah
Ya ya yaaah
Yaaah ya yah

Ohohohohoooo
Oh ya yaaah
Ya ya yaaah
Yaaah ya yah"

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

[quote=Inception]who knew when u try to help people you get trolled.[/quote]

What?

And thanks for reminding me of something horrible that happened today.

I'm hating you already.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]i'm planning on linking them later, right now i just want to make sure i got the places down, they can then use hidden street to find their way.
aren't aliens 90+ due to the quest?[/quote]

Yes they are.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

[quote=iVege]@darkspawn980: you could move MP3 [b][/b]down to level 80-85.

Also an explanation on where the mobs are located and how to access them =) Just sayings mp3 or aliens may confuse new players.[/quote]

i'm planning on linking them later, right now i just want to make sure i got the places down, they can then use hidden street to find their way.
aren't aliens 90+ due to the quest?

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

@darkspawn980: you could move MP3 [b][/b]down to level 80-85.

Also an explanation on where the mobs are located and how to access them =) Just sayings mp3 or aliens may confuse new players.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

@iChosenDream: read the top, so far i've updated up to the training spots (semi-half assed, needs just look-polishing)

which is why i say if i missed any places, or if up to that point there's something you feel i should add, do say so.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

@iChosenDream: the un-hyperlinked ones are the new ones, and they matter the most anyway.

@darkspawn980: excellent! =D Looking forward to the guide being cleaned up soon. Hurts my eyes reading it right now.

Protip: you should go to sleep if you're tired.

Sweet dreams.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iChosenDream

@darkspawn980 Is it on this guide- Official Spearman, DK, and DrK Guide? I hope it's not because it still looks like pre-bb.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iChosenDream

I am proud of you

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

[quote=tofuyuki]people are still goin to make threads regardless[/quote]

and i will not inform them of anything like i've done until now.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

@ivege: @Plusle4eva: i'm on it right now, updating each part as i go, feel free to check and tell me if you think i should add anything to what i have already edited, moving to spear vs PA's.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

Good to hear. About time, anyway.

Turn it into the general guide already ὸ_�'

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

people posting questions that are answered on a guide with an intention to troll though, are welcome.

and you know, i'll delete the completely outdated parts of the DrK guide right now.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
Plusle4eva

@iVege: There are still idiots that fail to realise that. The new thread button is RIGHT below the guides, and they don't even bother to check...

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited
iVege

I guess putting a thread [b]UNDER[/b] the guides would help people notice them.

It'll probably work, but I'll never understand why.

Reply May 30, 2012 - edited