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How much Str is needed to hit 50k Range?

Ye assuming I have a 160 PSB how much % STR do I need for 50k Range o.o

February 9, 2012

37 Comments • Newest first

EvilAnnieXD

[quote=phoenix23]I think everyone is trying to troll @EvilAnnieXD.[/quote]

*Sigh. First its a glitched range now a glitched weapon

Reply February 11, 2012
MapleBhav

You need around 100% str with that psb at level 200.

Reply February 10, 2012
phoenix23

@Aznstyles:

The damage formula is
Damage multipliers x Weapon Multiplier x (4xMain stat + 1xOff stat) x Attack / 100

For arans, that's
(1.35x1.05x1.49x(4xSTR+DEX)xAttack)/100

Remember PEMDAS.

Reply February 10, 2012
aznstyles

@EvilAnnieXD: Ask around for the damage range formula. Itll help you work out how high your range should be. Also did you ever blood your aran?

Reply February 10, 2012
phoenix23

My pleasure.

Reply February 10, 2012
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=phoenix23]27 attack VSS, 32 attack gloves, attack on earrings/face/eye/helmet, attack or %attack from set bonuses, blessing of empress, %attack on weapon, more +str from skills (pirate blessing, for instance) or items (+str on top, for instance), exaggeration/lying, including buffs they shouldn't, etc.

Just some ideas.[/quote]

Ah i see. Ty

Reply February 10, 2012
phoenix23

[quote=EvilAnnieXD]Any idea why people with a lower atk pa and %str have a higher or around the same range as me? o.o[/quote]

27 attack VSS, 32 attack gloves, attack on earrings/face/eye/helmet, attack or %attack from set bonuses, medal, badge, pocket item, pendant, rings, blessing of empress, %attack on weapon, more +str from skills (pirate blessing, for instance) or items (+str on top, for instance), exaggeration/lying, including buffs they shouldn't, etc.

Just some ideas.

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=phoenix23]By total %dmg i mean both %dmg items (NOT %boss, that doesn't factor into range at all) and %dmg skills (Regained Memory, Snow Charge).

Polearm weapon multiplier is 1.49
Snow Charge multiplier is 1.35
Regained Memory multiplier is 1.05

Maximum damage range:
(1.49)x(1.35)x(1.05)x(242/100)x(4x(1750) + 100) = 36289

Based on the stats you provided, your range should be 36289. Assuming you have High Mastery maxed (80% total mastery), your range should be:

29031-36289.

Edit: I see you said about 38k.
So no, your range is not glitched.

Can't wait for people to learn to do this themselves.[/quote]

Any idea why people with a lower atk pa and %str have a higher or around the same range as me? o.o

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

[quote=EvilAnnieXD]I'm selling some of my items atm to get better ones so I can't tell you exactly how much I have but these are an estimate of how much I had before taking the items off with a 38k range.
Total atk- 242
Total str- 17xx
Total dex- around 100
Total %dmg- I have no equips giving total %dmg unless u mean bossing?[/quote]

By total %dmg i mean both %dmg items (NOT %boss, that doesn't factor into range at all) and %dmg skills (Regained Memory, Snow Charge).

Polearm weapon multiplier is 1.49
Snow Charge multiplier is 1.35
Regained Memory multiplier is 1.05

Maximum damage range:
(1.49)x(1.35)x(1.05)x(242/100)x(4x(1750) + 100) = 36289

Based on the stats you provided, your range should be 36289. Assuming you have High Mastery maxed (80% total mastery), your range should be:

29031-36289.

Edit: I see you said about 38k.
So no, your range is not glitched.

Can't wait for people to learn to do this themselves.

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=phoenix23]For Arans, range is calculated from 4 factors.

Total attack
Total str
Total dex
Total %damage

@EvilannieXD:
Please list your stats, and I will tell you if your range is glitched.[/quote]

I'm selling some of my items atm to get better ones so I can't tell you exactly how much I have but these are an estimate of how much I had before taking the items off with a 38k range.
Total atk- 242
Total str- 17xx
Total dex- around 100
Total %dmg- I have no equips giving total %dmg unless u mean bossing?

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

For Arans, range is calculated from 4 factors.

Total attack
Total str
Total dex
Total %damage

@EvilannieXD:
Please list your stats, and I will tell you if your range is glitched.

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=aznstyles]@EvilAnnieXD: I think your range is glitched[/quote]

Not much I can do about it can I? Even if i were to send a ticket in I don't actually have proof based on data cuz i have no idea how this range thing works
But I don't wanna play on an account I spent so much funding on with a glitched range

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
ool007zee233

[quote=EvilAnnieXD]Rlly? O_O
What level is your friend? My aran has like 90% str with 165atk psb and clean range max is like 38k[/quote]

That friend would be me. I have about 58% str.. 150 att psb...

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=aznstyles]@EvilAnnieXD: The 24atk and 15atk from blessings dont stack. What about your rings?[/quote]

Errr +6atk from 3crusader rings and one for speed

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
aznstyles

@EvilAnnieXD: The 24atk and 15atk from blessings dont stack. What about your rings?

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
firedannyX

about 1800 str i think

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=TooSxcee]extremely strange am almost the same level 51% str less attack and have the same clean range as you.[/quote]


Any ideas what to do about it?

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

Can you guys stick to actual math and data please? Your [b]anecdotal[/b] evidence is incomplete and, tbh, quite useless.

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
TooSxcee

[quote=EvilAnnieXD]Oh Nvr knew that. My bad. So then 236atk with around 90% str 38k range clean lvl 167. Is that still a weird range for my equips?[/quote]

extremely strange am almost the same level 51% str less attack and have the same clean range as you.

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=Dr4gonxLord]Blessing of the Empress (24 Atk) and Blessing from your 15x charecter (15 Atk) do not stack. You only count the one with the highest value.[/quote]

Oh Nvr knew that. My bad. So then 236atk with around 90% str 38k range clean lvl 167. Is that still a weird range for my equips?

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=aznstyles]@EvilAnnieXD: Nope Jump start will only affect hp and slots I believe. Do you have decent CO by any chance? Theres a glitch with CO where your range will actually decrease. Also what is your total atk?[/quote]

Nope. No CO. Clean range. Errr. 165atk psb, 24atk from ck, 15atk from blessing, 30 from High Mastery, and 17 from my glove so assuming this is what u meant 251atk?

Reply February 10, 2012 - edited
Feeling

I would say 80%, assuming you're talking about completely clean ranges.
To give you an idea, with my 179 attack PSB and 140%str, my range is 86k absolutely clean (or so.)

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
OmgItsMazz

80% to be safe.

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
aznstyles

@EvilAnnieXD: Nope Jump start will only affect hp and slots I believe. Do you have decent CO by any chance? Theres a glitch with CO where your range will actually decrease. Also what is your total atk?

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

[quote=jeffloredo82]? Idk it doesnt make sense if we both have blessings in the beginner skillz. Sounds fair[/quote]

-facepalm-

Only the highest one works. This has been well-known for a year or more, now.

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
Althazir

well i have a 156 atk glaive with 9% atk and 54% str total, my clean range is 41.5k. I'm lvl 187. So i'd say ~65-70% str?

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=aznstyles]@EvilAnnieXD: Then for some el oh el reason your range is low[/quote]

:O Any ideas why? I got the 24atk buff from CK too.

Edit: Btw my aran is a jumpstart. Is that maybe why my range is low?

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
aznstyles

@EvilAnnieXD: Then for some el oh el reason your range is low

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=aznstyles]Your friend max dem 4th job skills? Thats quite low[/quote]

Yea I've maxed most of them. Lvl 16x

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

I will assume you have +61 Dex from equipment, +30 Dex from Training, +5 Dex from Alliance skill and 4 base dex for a total of 100 dex.

Regained Memory %damage buff * Snow Charge %damage buff * (Weapon Multiplier * ((4 * Primary Stat) + Secondary Stat) * (Attack / 100)) = Range

1.05*1.35 * 1.49 * ((4 * X) + 100) * (237 / 100) = 50000
Let X be the required total Str for a range of 50,000 (upper limit)

Solved, X = 2472.19
You need a total of 2473 total Str for a range of 50k (with 237 total attack).

Your base Str depends on your level.
For the graph I'd need to know what your total +str is (and correct my assumed +dex).

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
aznstyles

[quote=EvilAnnieXD]Rlly? O_O
What level is your friend? My aran has like 90% str with 165atk psb and clean range max is like 38k[/quote]

Your friend max dem 4th job skills? Thats quite low

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=Perished]My friend has around 58% I think, with a perfect psb 2 enhanced and has around 48kish range[/quote]

Rlly? O_O
What level is your friend? My aran has like 90% str with 165atk psb and clean range max is like 38k

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
Psychoakuma

[quote]phoenix23[/quote]

By total attack I assume you mean with all passives including high mastery: 30 From High Mastery, 10 From that alliance ting, 172 from all equips, and 25 from might
So 237 Total attack, I have no % attack so w/e and i have max high mastery

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

List total attack, level of High Mastery, and any %attack you may have.

I will draw you a graph that has [%str required for 50k range] plotted against [level, assuming dexless]

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited
nahoon

As level 13- ish you need over 65% i believe

Reply February 9, 2012 - edited