Jett Reveal

In Maple, every season is Hurricane season.

[quote=Tricks122]Because a Revamp is TOTALLY a massive class [b]OVERHAUL[/b] where you remove core mechanics and skill, copy/paste skills from other classes and give a class abilities that don't even make sense compared to the pre-Revamp abilities.

Not every Bucc wanted a bloody [b]OVERHAUL[/b], most of us wanted a Revamp until this came along. Some of us like it, some don't. Doesn't change the fact that it's really not a Revamp. If Arans suddenly became Ninja's, would you call that a Revamp or an [b]OVERHAUL[/b]? I'd call that an [b]OVERHAUL[/b] since it's not buffing your class based on the foundations that it had; it's changing the class as a whole into something new.[/quote]

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[quote=PraisedAura]-We get seemingly better treatment for our update because you have been revamped several times beforehand, already addressing existing flaws.
-Getting Enrage and AFA isn't good enough either?
-Buccaneers get a overhaul because in our current outdated state we are trash DPMwise to any other class.
-Why are you comparing Warriors to those classes when it was about Buccaneers and Heroes just now?
-For us, it was Summersault Kick till Energy Charge was up, then Energy Blast, a bit of Drain and Recover here and there. Oh, and if you want to talk as far as back then, also hope you didn't get disconnected by the Summersault Kick glitch when you were Transformed and don't get DCed by the GM police for the PG effect on Energy Charge.
-We are late bloomers post-revamp and right now. It has always been that way.

I still fail to see your perspective on this take, but if you think we're getting it good all of a sudden despite you thinking we've had it good the whole time, you are dreadfully mislead.[/quote]

The reason for including the other classes mobbing/rushing skill was in response to your previous answer of claiming how great our rush is. As for your comment above, we don't get maxed stance until 176ish and enrage isn't maxed until 166ish. If you want to talk about late bloomers, that's a Hero. As for horizontal range, you say that it is because that is just our class, warriors dont need much range, then enlighten me how a brawler with knuckles deserve more range then a sword? We also do not receive a mobile skill (pre-split stream) until 4th job compared to y'alls corkscrew at 2nd job. Back then, it was no easy feat to even get to 4th job so we were definitely the least mobile class. As of right now, we have recieved some nice perks, splitstream and AFA. You also talk about multiple revamps for the warrior class, Heroes got slip stream and AFA. Buccs recieved a pretty significant boost in atk speed around the time we recieved AFA. In terms of DPM, even after the revamp Buccs would be below Heros, but in the perfect calculation world, a Bucc would be able to solo more bosses faster then a Hero would, due to there large range and mob hits. Buccs have been out significantly less than Heros have been, and yes they are finally recieving a revamp, but we had to wait for a significantly longer time to receive our revamp, which is usually just 1 skill.

And yes I never dedicated to my Bucc, but I had one. I'm going to assume that because you are also engaging in the comparison you have Atleast experienced how it was like for a Hero from day one and what it is like now, if not then you are speculating quite a bit on the journey Heros had to take to become what we are now.

[quote=PraisedAura]Heroes aren't treated well? Haha, good one.

-Rage stacks with pots after your revamp and still remains a party skill
-Your stance will become 100% after your revamp
-Your rush skill is amazing, having great distance and a minor delay to make up for it as well

When Buccaneers came out...
-Flash fist's range compared to power strike was noticeably smaller.
-Summersault Kick also had you immersed into mobs in proximity in comparison to Slash Blast.
-We had a Passive HP boost skill in 2nd job to compensate for not having high base HP like Warriors, particularly Heroes who have the highest base HP of any class IIRC.
-We didn't steal rush. Corkscrew Blow worked differently than Rush aside the KB effect and was not as worthwhile to use nor as efficient.
-Transform did not give ATK back then. Energy charge did, but it took 40 SP to max it compared to 30 for you guys for Combos.
-Energy Charge's Bubble was terrible. The PG effect was stupid, interfered with rushing often, and made bossing a bit more annoying to deal with in close quarters seeing how the PG effect did not work as intended but rather did touch damage that still had a chance to miss.
-Heroes can charge up their Orbs very quickly compared to Buccaneers charging their Energy.
-We're a melee class as well
-The only ranged skills we have are Energy Orb, Dragon Strike, and Snatch. Snatch was handy but not for damage purposes; Energy Orb was garbage; and Dragon Strike was dreadfully slow.[/quote]

You justify that Heros are treated well by telling me what they will receive in the oncoming patch that has been a nuisance to us for 7 years. Buccs definitely are recieving much more then what Heros got in their entire maple time. We gained 2 atks. Woo? Our rush is better then Buccs Corkscrew but not as good as a DBs fly assaulter, a mechs rush, the future shad rush is much faster, and Mercedes have a nice chain after their rush. And if you want to compare what it was like for a Sader when it first came out, I'll tell you, it was hell. We used Slash blast and power slash all the time. That's it. Buccs get to enjoy their wide variety of skills that have skills similar to ours and more. After the revamp they get way more the heroes. Not to mention how present day Heroes are crap unless you get them to ATLEAST level 165. I'm pretty sure you also didn't read my other comments do I don't think I'll repost the same thing again, I'll just hope that you go and reread. Just because there are tons of Buccs "QQing" about being poorly treated does not mean they are. If you really want to see a class that has been poorly treated, I'd say it would be a NL.

[quote=MagicFrappe]TMS made the Dragon Warrior like that because they're not getting the pirate revamp, since the buccs and sairs complained about their originality.

To compensate for people that were looking forward to the update, they just mashed them together in that new class.

So unless it's announced that GMS isn't getting the revamp, I wouldn't expect the same.[/quote]

Umm actually... TMS is getting the Revamp...
The News from 2 months ago was all based on rumours so yea...
if you can read Traditional Chinese... Here is the Link... (You have to let it load since TMS likes to use Flash on their site)
http://tw.beanfun.com/maplestory/
On the 4th Tab on the Very Top... It says.. "Coming Soon" on if you move your curser on it.
and In chinese... It says.. Pirate and Thief Revamp.

[quote=PiplupStar]@Golfer: And since they're so one up'd that's why they're near the bottom of the DPS chart and Heroes are high up there. Also yeah but you can use IS/Raging Blow without needing anything except for the attack boost and enrage.[/quote]

In the current DPS charts, yeah we are higher NOW, back when they first came out, they were better off then Heroes. IS was not there back then, it was Brandish. And we have not had Raging blow yet, when we get that, Buccs won't even be Buccs anymore. Heroes have seen very little change from the start. We gained 2 new attacking skills as of right now. 3 including raging blow. And yes, we can use IS and RB without anything, same for Buccs, Barrage and Dragon Strike.

And then after their revamp, they don't even need transform for atks anymore. They just spam a barrage of fists and some giant laser thing from their hands. They have truelly "one up'd a hero"

In addition the DPS chart is in a perfect work where everyone has 100% stance and they just keep attacking. If we took a stripped Hero and Bucc with level 10 weapons and see who killed bosses faster the data will be surprisingly different then what the DPS chart would say. Especially post revamp, Heroes still do not have enough horizontal range to effectively solo Pink bean, while Buccs have a huge range. After revamp, stripped classes, a Bucc would solo HT, Zak, and PB faster then a Hero.

[quote=PiplupStar]@Golfer: Yeah but like I said Buccs have cooldown and it's a bit easier to charge a combo up.[/quote]

Oh and to top it off, when their super transform is off, they have Barrage and Dragon Strike as a combo. Im nkt too sure in this either, but does can transform, both siper and reg be dispelled like enrage and aca can? As TS would say, they just took Heroes and "one up'd it"

[quote=PiplupStar]@Golfer: Yeah but you can't use your main skill. Demolition. There's snatch too.[/quote]

Snatch is like monster magnet. And like I said above, we can't use Enrage, our 1v1 skill, without ACA. And you know what sucks the most? Demo is ranged... Heroes are hit in the ass at Pink Bean.

[quote=PiplupStar]@Golfer: I was joking. Anyways Buccs are indeed a close up class who has iFrames as well as combos, something Heroes don't have. Well idk about the combo but I don't see iframes. Buccs are slow in attack speed as well whereas after the revamp Raging Blow hits as fast as Dark Impale. If the revamp happens that'll change. Another thing is Buccs have a cooldown for Transformation while CA doesn't. Also energy charging is harder to do than get combos. Also if you put it like that you could say the same for Sairs to BM [/quote]

Well I'm glad to see that you were joking. I already said above that charging is slower for energy charge and I gave credit to Buccs for having a unique 4th job, which is their main source of iFrames. As for transformation, when one ends, can't you use the other one (referring to super trans) to keep the constant transform up? I was also comparing Buccs present time and when they first came out. As I right now, they received a huge speed boost compared to what they were like when they first came out. Post revamp they get sooooo many new skills that are also faster. Heroes get 1 new skill.

I would also like to say that a Corsair and BM do have some similarities, but not as much as a Bucc and Hero. Sairs to me see more unique and different.

[quote=PiplupStar]Buccs are pirates who use knuckles and Heroes are warriors who use swords. There's a reason why they aren't alike.[/quote]

That's not how I look at them. I see them as close ranged characters that use STR as their main stat.

[quote=sillyray]Are you serious? You've obviously never played a Buccaneer. Transformation doesn't stack with any attack pots. Unlike Heros, we cannot choose to not use Super Transformation because we can only use Demolition in Super Transformation. We have to Transform to use our main 1v1 attack skill. If we die or dc, ha!; we have to wait until we can Transform again.

Our Energy charge is nothing great compared to Combo Attack. It adds only 20 attack, not another 100% damage to our range. Energy charge is also our only source of stance and we have to charge it. Do you know how hard it is to charge that in a boss run? Nothing goes into effect and we can't use Energy Orb, Energy Blast, Energy Drain or stance until it is FULLY charged.

I wasn't even going to complain that we remain the only class without a mobility skill, but this abomination of a class might replace our revamp.[/quote]

I understand your points, I can agree that I have fully never committed to a Bucc. I have created one and tried various times but was never interested. You say that you cannot use your 1v1 without super transform, which needs reg transform. Heroes cannot use our 1v1 skill, enrage, without maxed ACA, which needs regular CA. Both very similar concepts. They also both boost our damage. The atk boost you get from transform does not stack with pots like our rage does not stack with pots. I also compared ACA as a combination of Transform and Energy charge. The concept of our attacks are very similar. I do admit that Panic and Coma are much easier to activate tabs use compare to energy blast and drain; however we lack a HP draining skill and once we are harged, we are restricted by 10 uses of Coma with ACA while energy blast can be spammed for a duration of time. I can honestly say I do not know how hard it is to charge the energy ball thing in a boss run since I meet committed to my Bucc. I only used it at regular mobs and it seemed to charge fairly quickly. Hopefully what I provided made a bit of sense. I still believe Buccs are like Heros, until someone provides reasons otherwise.

[quote=Golfer]First off, what I quoted was you disagreeing with my comment. I said they are taking more corsair skills, then you quote me an say "no, blah blah blah." Secondly both classes have nautilus strike so it really isn't stealing from a Bucc either. And thirdly, even though this is a trailer of the class, what kind of logic are you using to assume that another character with a GUN is going to copy more skills from a KNICKLE user then a GUN user?

I see no purpose or reason for TS to be raging. I can be butt soar about the entire Bucc class or how Heros are arn't treated well either. We may have a buff coming up, but we only get one new skill per revamp. Our rage, has been obsolete for several year since they don't stack with attack pots. Our stance is still not 100%. And our rush skill is the slowest among all. When Buccs first came out, thy were like warriors. Flash fist is like power strike, SSK was like slash blast, thy received a passive HP boost skill, they steal our rush and put it into 2nd job to slap our faces, transform and the energy circle thing is like our combo attack, we charge it up and gives an atk boost an when it's charged we have skills that we can use with it, super transform is like advance combo atk. And to make it worst of all, youget a copy of Heros, a close ranged class, and give some ranged skills... Their fourth job I would say is the only original part about Buccs.[/quote]

Are you serious? You've obviously never played a Buccaneer. Transformation doesn't stack with any attack pots. Unlike Heros, we cannot choose to not use Super Transformation because we can only use Demolition in Super Transformation. We have to Transform to use our main 1v1 attack skill. If we die or dc, ha!; we have to wait until we can Transform again.

Our Energy charge is nothing great compared to Combo Attack. It adds only 20 attack, not another 100% damage to our range. Energy charge is also our only source of stance and we have to charge it. Do you know how hard it is to charge that in a boss run? Nothing goes into effect and we can't use Energy Orb, Energy Blast, Energy Drain or stance until it is FULLY charged.

I wasn't even going to complain that we remain the only class without a mobility skill, but this abomination of a class might replace our revamp.

[quote=Takeback3r]Rage is higher than most pots. This is being fixed soon.

This is being fixed soon.

No.

You're a moron.[/quote]

Quoting something and then suggesting that one is a "moron" is easy. Please tell me where what I described is faulty. I can do it too.

You're a moron.

[quote=Golfer]Our rage, has been obsolete for several year since they don't stack with attack pots.[/quote]

Rage is higher than most pots. This is being fixed soon.

[quote=Golfer]Our stance is still not 100%.[/quote]

This is being fixed soon.

[quote=Golfer]And our rush skill is the slowest among all.[/quote]

No.

[quote=Golfer]When Buccs first came out, thy were like warriors. Flash fist is like power strike, SSK was like slash blast, thy received a passive HP boost skill, they steal our rush and put it into 2nd job to slap our faces, transform and the energy circle thing is like our combo attack, we charge it up and gives an atk boost an when it's charged we have skills that we can use with it, super transform is like advance combo atk. And to make it worst of all, youget a copy of Heros, a close ranged class, and give some ranged skills... Their fourth job I would say is the only original part about Buccs.[/quote]

You're a moron.

[quote=Miauri]Shockwave, fist enrage and nautilus strike. Yes, there are more corsair skills in the VIDEO, but you haven't seen the whole class yet.[/quote]

First off, what I quoted was you disagreeing with my comment. I said they are taking more corsair skills, then you quote me an say "no, blah blah blah." Secondly both classes have nautilus strike so it really isn't stealing from a Bucc either. And thirdly, even though this is a trailer of the class, what kind of logic are you using to assume that another character with a GUN is going to copy more skills from a KNICKLE user then a GUN user?

I see no purpose or reason for TS to be raging. I can be butt soar about the entire Bucc class or how Heros are arn't treated well either. We may have a buff coming up, but we only get one new skill per revamp. Our rage, has been obsolete for several year since they don't stack with attack pots. Our stance is still not 100%. And our rush skill is the slowest among all. When Buccs first came out, thy were like warriors. Flash fist is like power strike, SSK was like slash blast, thy received a passive HP boost skill, they steal our rush and put it into 2nd job to slap our faces, transform and the energy circle thing is like our combo attack, we charge it up and gives an atk boost an when it's charged we have skills that we can use with it, super transform is like advance combo atk. And to make it worst of all, youget a copy of Heros, a close ranged class, and give some ranged skills... Their fourth job I would say is the only original part about Buccs.

worst idea ever

You all complained so hard and look at what you've done.

They could've atleast given us the dragon warrior animations, instead of these ugly ones

[quote=Golfer]I don't know what 3-4 bucc skills you saw, but what I saws was: headshot, rapid fire, the octopuss shooting one, nautilus strike, the shotgun scatter shot, and some sort of knock back shot. Which I believe belong to the corsair post revamp.[/quote]
Shockwave, fist enrage and nautilus strike. Yes, there are more corsair skills in the VIDEO, but you haven't seen the whole class yet.

[quote=Miauri]The hurricane skill is actually corsair's rapidfire.

No. You saw 9-10 skills from one class. That's nothing. And btw, I saw 3-4 bucc skills.[/quote]

I don't know what 3-4 bucc skills you saw, but what I saws was: headshot, rapid fire, the octopuss shooting one, nautilus strike, the shotgun scatter shot, and some sort of knock back shot. Which I believe belong to the corsair post revamp.

I think I saw 2 Bucc skills.

[quote=soulfist]It's annoying how that hurricane skill and FJ is EXACTLY like ishtar/glide except its blue, wtf is that. And they stole the cannoneer ultimate, ROFL. Just wow.[/quote]The hurricane skill is actually corsair's rapidfire.

[quote=Golfer]What are you complaining about? They took more Corsairs skills anyways...[/quote]No. You saw 9-10 skills from one class. That's nothing. And btw, I saw 3-4 bucc skills.

What are you complaining about? They took more Corsairs skills anyways...

[quote=Eruption]You act like you cant wait for nexon to take out the only thing unique on pirates. ( battleship/transformation )[/quote]

Who cares about being unique anymore? Like really, and we get them as mounts so I dont get why ANYONE wouldn't want a revamp that essentially doubles atk power and speed for pirates and thieves.

It actually looks like a really cool class. I look forward to playing it.

[quote=triiggerhappy]Honestly, maybe it is a generalization but you can't blame me for generalizing when I remember when KMS first posted about that revamp. Tons and tons and tons of threads were all about how it sucks and that they shouldn't have it. To me it look like 90% of the pirates didn't want the revamp. If the majority wanted the revamp then they were sure damn quiet about it. Very few threads actually wanted that revamp.[/quote]

Yes that is true, there were a huge amount against it when it first came out and honestly I was used to how my bucc is now, and I was initially against it as well.
I didn't make threads, and didn't post in every other thread about how it sucked, I just didn't like how it was done.
Over time, I grew accustomed to it and learned to accept that while it may not be my style, this could have been one of the things to help pump life back into the bucc livelihood and I eventually wanted it.

It's annoying how that hurricane skill and FJ is EXACTLY like ishtar/glide except its blue, wtf is that. And they stole the cannoneer ultimate, ROFL. Just wow.

Well this is disappointing... at least I have some %dex gear to throw at it. -_-

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]It's must be fun to make general statements huh? "You're all being hypocrites", and for the majority of pirates who did want the revamp? I guess we're just up the creek without a paddle huh?[/quote]

Honestly, maybe it is a generalization but you can't blame me for generalizing when I remember when KMS first posted about that revamp. Tons and tons and tons of threads were all about how it sucks and that they shouldn't have it. To me it look like 90% of the pirates didn't want the revamp. If the majority wanted the revamp then they were sure damn quiet about it. Very few threads actually wanted that revamp.

[quote=triiggerhappy]Maybe bc all the pirates QQ'd about the pirate changes in the first place? Honestly, if there isn't a pirate revamp I don't blame them for not doing one. Just bc the majority of people didn't want the revamp at all. They thought it would take away there uniqueness. So therefore they decided to give in to your wants and make a new class instead. So you are able to keep your uniqueness that you wanted. Now you are all being hypocrites. It is pretty sad.[/quote]

It's must be fun to make general statements huh? "You're all being hypocrites", and for the majority of pirates who did want the revamp? I guess we're just up the creek without a paddle huh?

[quote=gizmozian]Why do thieves need a revamp more than us. [/quote]

Maybe bc all the pirates QQ'd about the pirate changes in the first place? Honestly, if there isn't a pirate revamp I don't blame them for not doing one. Just bc the majority of people didn't want the revamp at all. They thought it would take away there uniqueness. So therefore they decided to give in to your wants and make a new class instead. So you are able to keep your uniqueness that you wanted. Now you are all being hypocrites. It is pretty sad.

inb4 "Petition to revamp Pirates!"
calling it will happen within a week of the patch

[quote=PurpleMatter]@mamaleo:

Well you have to remember this is a 32-bit game and they can't go all wild with the animations because people who play on toasters would whine and complain even more about the said topic. Not to mention this is there first time trying to make their own global-exclusive class. Sure they won't get it right in the first time, but hey there's always future patches and or opportunities to improve from their and escalate.

And Cowboy Bepop. Am I the only one who remembers this great anime?[/quote]

Now I gotta disagree, nothing in ms can compare to Cowboy Bebop, period lol.

@mamaleo:

Well you have to remember this is a 32-bit game and they can't go all wild with the animations because people who play on toasters would whine and complain even more about the said topic. Not to mention this is there first time trying to make their own global-exclusive class. Sure they won't get it right in the first time, but hey there's always future patches and or opportunities to improve from their and escalate.

And Cowboy Bepop. Am I the only one who remembers this great anime?

[quote=PurpleMatter]@xXxFoxKingxXx:

I'm just summing the idiotic points made in all these non-sensical assumptions stating that Jett's are overpowered and are a copy of all other classes without even having the slightest of acknowledgment of their full skill roster. As far as we know all the "identical" skills could function very differently from their other counterparts in their own unique ways.[/quote]

Hmm, good point actually.

[quote=PurpleMatter]@xXxFoxKingxXx:

I'm just summing the idiotic points made in all these non-sensical assumptions stating that Jett's are overpowered and are a copy of all other classes without even having the slightest of acknowledgment of their full skill roster. As far as we know all the "identical" skills could function very differently from their other counterparts in their own unique ways.[/quote]

Slightly agreed.. the animations are very similar (if not exact), which is why I ponder about Nexon's thought process when creating "new" content, when its really just "recycled" content. The skill effects might be completely different (which I doubt too..), but in generally there is no creativity going on here.

And cmon .. space cowboy? Sounds corny to me -___-

@xXxFoxKingxXx:

I'm just summing the idiotic points made in all these non-sensical assumptions stating that Jett's are overpowered and are a copy of all other classes without even having the slightest of acknowledgment of their full skill roster. As far as we know all the "identical" skills could function very differently from their other counterparts in their own unique ways.

If no one plays it Nexon will release your revamp :-)

[quote=PurpleMatter]"Oh hey guys Its a new class! [b]NOW TIME TO COMPLAIN TO NEXON OVER THEIR WORK AND SAY THAT THIS IS OVERPOWERED TRASH WITHOUT THANKING THEM OVER GIVING THEM ONE SIGN OF GRATITUDE![/b]"[/quote]

I could point out to you that this is the wrong type of statement to use at this point, but sure go ahead and keep drawing attention to your "comment" with no understanding at all behind what's being said at this point of the thread.

edit for above* - Man tell me about it, I made this ign like last year may when there was no sign of Jett at all and now... lol

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Which is why I said our revamp, as in pirates is unknown, as we don't know if we're going to get it or not, I didn't say we are or we aren't just that it's unknown, and that little hint on ninja stars yeah we don't use ninja stars so who's to say that isn't simply a thief revamp?[/quote]

Your IGN... Sorry, I just laughed at it and the situation.

Meh, I personally think it's kind of cool. But I don't have a pirate, so I wouldn't understand what you guys are going through.

[quote=qpGALLIONqp]Hopefully they hear enough complaints to stop and actually listen to the more informed intelligent people that actually have their facts straight and play the class instead of waves of noobs and bandwagoners chiming in.[/quote]

I feel bad for those of you that were level-headed and excited about it.
Of course, now those that were complaining about it probably will now suddenly decide they wanted the revamp after all.

"Oh hey guys Its a new class! [b]NOW TIME TO COMPLAIN TO NEXON OVER THEIR WORK AND SAY THAT THIS IS OVERPOWERED TRASH WITHOUT THANKING THEM OVER GIVING THEM ONE SIGN OF GRATITUDE![/b]"

[quote=MagicFrappe]Well to be fair... A lot of you (not all) were pretty mad when you first heard the revamp.

Maybe it was a blind fury, since a lot of people seemed to be okay with it later on, but I'm sure nexon heard a lot of complaints.[/quote]

Hopefully they hear enough complaints to stop and actually listen to the more informed intelligent people that actually have their facts straight and play the class instead of waves of noobs and bandwagoners chiming in.

Well to be fair... A lot of you (not all) were pretty mad when you first heard the revamp.

Maybe it was a blind fury, since a lot of people seemed to be okay with it later on, but I'm sure nexon heard a lot of complaints.

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Bad use of class comparison, you chose to mention mercedes as a valid point really?

Let me explain it a bit more for you to understand where a majority of the hate is coming from.
-We don't have our revamp skills, it's unknown if we're ever going to get them.
-Nexon releases a class known as Jett, who has access to the skills we were waiting on the revamp for.

-Instead of existing pirates having access to these skills, as far as we known only Jett is capable of using them at the moment which is a slap to the face considering how much a majority of the pirates were actually looking forward to the revamp to gain a bit more power and become competitive with other classes.

-While thieves revamp has been hinted to be close, there is no sign of a pirate update so considering the news of Jett having our revamp skills instead of us? Yeah, quite a few of us are past the point of just minor irritation.[/quote]

I only chose Merc as it was also mentioned in the thread and I could relate slightly. When people found out about this pirate revamp a little while ago, a large group of players complained. They wanted to be unique (for example many sairs wanted to keep battleship).

It hasn't been confirmed that you'd lose the revamp. I see why you feel cheated, but its going to happen regardless, Nexon wont just cut out a popular update, if its what the majority of players want. That one server that got rid of it did so because it wasn't a popular choice there.

And lastly a more optimistic way of looking at it would be, use the Jett to test some of the new skills and see if you like them. If you and many other players don't you could petition Nexon to avoid the rework. Sorry if I made any mistakes in typing this out, I'm doing this and also playing an online game, swapping back and forth.

[quote=triiggerhappy]No sign about the pirate/thief revamp? Are you kidding me? Sure they never stated that they will have one but they never stated that it is canceled. Also the FB image of the stars and steelies shows that there might be a possible revamp still to come. Jett doesn't use stars so that image isn't for Jett. Phantom doesn't use stars he uses a cane and cards. So a good assumption to make is that there still will be a revamp and if there is a revamp then no reason to QQ abotu Jett having your skills. Just play your original classes.[/quote]

Which is why I said our revamp, as in pirates is unknown, as we don't know if we're going to get it or not, I didn't say we are or we aren't just that it's unknown, and that little hint on ninja stars yeah we don't use ninja stars so who's to say that isn't simply a thief revamp?

[quote=xXxFoxKingxXx]Bad use of class comparison, you chose to mention mercedes as a valid point really?

Let me explain it a bit more for you to understand where a majority of the hate is coming from.
-We don't have our revamp skills, it's unknown if we're ever going to get them.
-Nexon releases a class known as Jett, who has access to the skills we were waiting on the revamp for.

-Instead of existing pirates having access to these skills, as far as we known only Jett is capable of using them at the moment which is a slap to the face considering how much a majority of the pirates were actually looking forward to the revamp to gain a bit more power and become competitive with other classes.

-While thieves revamp has been hinted to be close, there is no sign of a pirate update so considering the news of Jett having our revamp skills instead of us? Yeah, quite a few of us are past the point of just minor irritation.[/quote]

No sign about the pirate/thief revamp? Are you kidding me? Sure they never stated that they will have one but they never stated that it is canceled. Also the FB image of the stars and steelies shows that there might be a possible revamp still to come. Jett doesn't use stars so that image isn't for Jett. Phantom doesn't use stars he uses a cane and cards. So a good assumption to make is that there still will be a revamp and if there is a revamp then no reason to QQ abotu Jett having your skills. Just play your original classes.

inb4 huge angry mob of pirates/thief

[quote=Diezal]So what? Don't like the class? Dont play it. Personally I wont be making one, but if people like it, all these mad pirates should quit complaining and let them be. I have a mercedes, this class has some of its skills, doesn't bother me at all.[/quote]

Bad use of class comparison, you chose to mention mercedes as a valid point really?

Let me explain it a bit more for you to understand where a majority of the hate is coming from.
-We don't have our revamp skills, it's unknown if we're ever going to get them.
-Nexon releases a class known as Jett, who has access to the skills we were waiting on the revamp for.

-Instead of existing pirates having access to these skills, as far as we known only Jett is capable of using them at the moment which is a slap to the face considering how much a majority of the pirates were actually looking forward to the revamp to gain a bit more power and become competitive with other classes.

-While thieves revamp has been hinted to be close, there is no sign of a pirate update so considering the news of Jett having our revamp skills instead of us? Yeah, quite a few of us are past the point of just minor irritation.

People making a big deal out of stupidity. Who cares if they stole the skills from other classes. All skills from any class resembles other skills in one way or another. You don't have to make this class you know, and fyi they never stated there won't be a revamp. They might end up doing the revamp anyway since that facebook notice. If so then stop QQing and just ignore the Jett.

I have a merc as well and not QQing over this thing. Look I also have a sair and I am not QQing about it either. Who honestly cares what class has what skills. As long as you like your class and have fun then who gives a damn. Not like you will be treated differently anyway. Stop the QQ and get over it. The new class looks cool regardless if you dislike it or not.

So what? Don't like the class? Dont play it. Personally I wont be making one, but if people like it, all these mad pirates should quit complaining and let them be. I have a mercedes, this class has some of its skills, doesn't bother me at all.

[quote=Standerd101]Meh, I kinda like it... Go ahead sue me! I think it adds nice gameplay . Having long ranged AND close range? That sorta puts us pirate lovers at a big advantage over certain classes. I might be wrong but if GMS did this with "Jett" I wouldn't mind since it's having to awesome classes come together to form a new class with different gameplay which is always nice.[/quote]

It makes older classes obsolete. It offers nothing new.