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How are you supposed to solo Hard Azwan?

I'm honestly at a loss. I kill the totem in the middle. I kill the altar guy at the top. I pave the way to the tower with my cygnus dudes as a meat shield. I start attacking the tower.

BAM 1 SHOTTED.

And by the time i respawn / rebuff, my noobs have lost ground...
then after a while the altar guy respawns.

Is there any way to dodge the insta-kill move? What are the signs, etc?

Am I not doing enough damage?

I have a 35k range buffed, in case that helps o.o

December 4, 2012

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kopred98

[quote=drokons]seems obvious you don't
LOL GET GOOD[/quote]

Please go away. Not everyone has a good range like you or bothers to spend real money just to get that good range.

OT: Don't bother with anything other than the tower. Use ts or bs to your advantage - when you see the pillar marking thingies on the ground ts or bs your way out.

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Hualicious

@chainedwind
Before Tempest Patch: The Owl Tower spawned instantly when you get into the map
Tempest: The Owl Tower has to spawn.

If your Owl Tower has spawned already then yea it probably takes you a bit longer to get into the map.

@Zyanid
Sure it works running into the Guardian Tower with jobs with high avoid/dogde chances, only if there are no statues that 1HKO's you on the Guardian Tower itself.

The main thing is, if you know he is going to use that skill:
1) You either stay and take the risk, when you realise the place you are standing on and there are no nearby safe spots, it is already harder to escape, especially when most of them activates at the same time. If there is a statue in the Guardian Tower you aren't going to be safe by running into that one.

If you stay and there are safe spots, you can keep attacking if you can hit the Guardian Tower (easier for ranged jobs if you stand to far)

2) Run immediately after you know the Guardian Tower is going to use the 1HKO skill and be 100% safe, sure this one might take a bit longer because there might have been safe spots near the Guardian Tower while you could avoid getting 1HKO's and continue attacking.

On my Phantom I did different things:
-Flash Jump away to the left side
-Run into the Guardian Tower
-Shroud Walk away from the Guardian Tower
-Shroud Walk into the Tower and wait till the 1HKO statues are activated and then teleport back of course it only works if there are no statues on the Guardian Tower

Most of the time I took the risk by staying beside the Tower. I either got safe spots, die or I escape from dying. Sometimes I am lucky when the 1HKO statutes activates not at the same time, and I happened to be at the right time to avoid the hit when I am moving.

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raicouri

@ItzATrapp: mm ic. thing is, i get kinda laggy 20 seconds in, and once the bloodfangs pile up, i tend to panic and get as far away as possible (spamming pots as well, tower can still laser me, his noobs can hit me too sometimes)

It's also lame that stance skills are ignored. thorns doesnt help, i even got the mihile link skill, but im still punched around by the damn tower / his noobs D:

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ItzATrapp

@raicouri:

This is true. It's not bad as my experience. Everytime he appears on screen we I get to him, he uses it, and he once used it 6 times in a row. The only thing you can really do about this is get stronger if it's a problem. Also get better at control. He doesn't always fill the screen with the markers so learn the BS and TS distance and use it to your advantage to dodge.

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raicouri

[quote=ItzATrapp]If you're doing this on your DB, here is some advice:

1. Get a better range. It takes me 30 seconds to 2 minutes to solo the boss depending on how many times I die. Obviously I didn't die if I took 30 seconds.

2. Use tornado spin and Bloody storm to dodge the 1hitko blasts. Tornado spin when there are no mobs to hit, and BS when there are. Just use it to move to a space where there is no ground marker.

3. I have no confirmation this works, but sometimes I have dodged the blasts by used bloody storm. I know i-frames don't work in Aswan, but I have dodged the blasts 75% of the time with BS. It might have to do with the slow movement and the different timing of the blasts. Still, give it a try.

4. Skip the middle boss and mobs and the pillar. None of them matter if you can kill the boss in atleast a minute.[/quote]

I'm having another problem. Now that I can dodge his 1-shot move, it's the fact the he uses it literally every 5 seconds. I can barely get in 3 PBs before i have to fj away... this repeats for about 2 minutes, then his noobs reach the other side @_@

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chainedwind

[quote=Classicvibe]The tombstones are supposed to be 1hko? They were doing 10k dmg to me on my paly but I was still tanking them o.o[/quote]
Shoosh, tankmeister, you don't count

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ItzATrapp

[quote=raicouri]I'm honestly at a loss. I kill the totem in the middle. I kill the altar guy at the top. I pave the way to the tower with my cygnus dudes as a meat shield. I start attacking the tower.

BAM 1 SHOTTED.

And by the time i respawn / rebuff, my noobs have lost ground...
then after a while the altar guy respawns.

Is there any way to dodge the insta-kill move? What are the signs, etc?

Am I not doing enough damage?

I have a 35k range buffed, in case that helps o.o[/quote]

If you're doing this on your DB, here is some advice:

1. Get a better range. It takes me 30 seconds to 2 minutes to solo the boss depending on how many times I die. Obviously I didn't die if I took 30 seconds.

2. Use tornado spin and Bloody storm to dodge the 1hitko blasts. Tornado spin when there are no mobs to hit, and BS when there are. Just use it to move to a space where there is no ground marker.

3. I have no confirmation this works, but sometimes I have dodged the blasts by used bloody storm. I know i-frames don't work in Aswan, but I have dodged the blasts 75% of the time with BS. It might have to do with the slow movement and the different timing of the blasts. Still, give it a try.

4. Skip the middle boss and mobs and the pillar. None of them matter if you can kill the boss in atleast a minute.

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Classicvibe

The tombstones are supposed to be 1hko? They were doing 10k dmg to me on my paly but I was still tanking them o.o

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aznanimality

@Zyanid:
I just said that avoiding the tower damage won't work because iframes don't work in azwan

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Taisuke

400k+ range on a phantom can do it if you dodge

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FightFightFight

Paladin or Aran bro. Btw don't stand too close to it so you don't receive it's hit damage since that hurts the most. And when you see that red circle skill thing that looks like a buff, watch the floor, dodge the marks with the totem things on them. The lazor isn't really that threatening unless you're HP is low like a corsair's or something lol

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gamemage3

it just lags so much that either the run takes 30 seconds cause I'm not standing on the 1 hit ko attack and I just kill the tower asap or I die cause I can't dodge because of the lag and it takes 9 minutes

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chainedwind

[quote=Zyanid]@chainedwind
Or it could be that you're too slow. When I do it, the middle tower doesn't spawn until I reach the guardian tower. You could try climbing the platforms to avoid the middle tower.[/quote]
Really? Every time I do attack/occupy, no matter which mode, the owl tower has already spawned by the time the screen finishes loading.

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WireWorks

Mechs suck at solo Attack hard mode seriously its just poorly designed Have to siege to do enough single target damage and and to siege means get 1hko.

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chainedwind

But how do you get to the guardian tower without getting killed by walking into the owl tower? Tele doesn't cover enough distance to dodge it. AM I JUST TOO SQUISHY....

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aznanimality

@Zyanid:
Then please elaborate on how running into the statue when it's about to perform its wtfbbq attack is supposed to help you live

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LittleOrphans

My Mech can solo def hard and he's only lvl what... 67

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wickedtmage

Watch for those gravestones, once you see them, you have a few seconds to get out of the way, and not always easy to do, but it can be done, you need to deal a lot of damage too.

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VulcanWalker

I've learned that when you see that red circle before the tombstones appear, HAUL ASS.

Because sometimes they're placed in a way that it's impossible for me not to die if I don't move early.

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kenshin948

I can solo hard in 30seconds tbh its mostly range and avoidablity that you need..

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betaboi101

I generally buff outside and wont use any buffs that get canceled when i enter. Then on my phantom, I immediately jump to the boss before the tower spawns and win within seconds. Sometimes when it lags and he dies, I then usually take out the tower but honesty, the top thing is a waste of time taking out and takes too long and you really shouldn't spend too much time buffing up skills since it just makes more mobs spawn = more lag and a much longer fight ;x

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GalStilkol

[quote=raicouri]DBs gotta use final cut tho, so bum rushing the tower will do a lot less dmg than usual :O
Normally i cant see whats going on bc of the lag / sheer amount of guys.

thx for the info~[/quote]
from a low range db to low range db..
rush to tower-when u see he is about to send his mini bombers just stop attacking for a sec and dodge em even if it means jumping onto the tower aswell
(we got high avoid so this works most of the times) and i kill it with blade fury cuz i got no pb

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Hualicious

[quote=kazekage831]You just have to wait a bit to get the circulators, like the green message tells you to[/quote]
I will test that out again, it was like that before the patch. But from what I noticed I got circulators right after I completed the run in an instant and I was still in the room before I got sent to the exit, that never happened before the patch.

But I will test it, hopefully it is the same then, thank you.

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aznanimality

[quote=Zyanid]I meant that when he sees the statues appearing, he should get in front of or on the right of the tower without worrying about the touch-damage.[/quote]

Iframes don't work in azwan if you didn't know

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Hualicious

@Wiill @SirJonanthan
Thank you both for answering, I know how to do Azwan. I asked this because I frames was mentioned so I was wondering.

I am making a guide that's why. I know everything from before the revamp but I don't know about the circulators now. Before the patch we got them when your honor leveled up at 100%, but now it seems random, sometimes you receive the circulator, sometimes you don't. I think it's a glitch, nexon could have mentioned all the changes but they did not.

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Hualicious

[quote=SirJonanthan]look at the boss at the end of the map and note his animation
if its a half circle hes healing himself
if the animation completes then hes using the one hit KO
dodge the totems through i-frames/running away like a girl and screaming.[/quote]
I would like to know which I-frames works. I thought these things didn't work at azwan.

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aznanimality

[quote=Zyanid]Like the others mentioned, go straight to the tower and ignore the rest, unless the monsters are healing the tower. As a DB it should be really easy to dodge the insta-kill move since you have a high avoid/dodge rate. All you have to do is hug the tower when necessary, Bloody Storm across the tower to hug the wall, or Flash Jump to the left when you can't do the other two options.[/quote]

Insta-kill breaks through dodge/avoid

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ibnbey1

Go straight to the tower, and just dont get hit by the 1 hit kill move. I solo it in 10 secs on my evan.

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powerguy121

Flash jump all the way to the tower in the middle and final cut it. This will give you the 60% damage boost you need. Then make a rush to the boss. Don't bother killing the tower that you final cutted. Continuously Final blow the tower, if you see the animation of a circle and owls rising from the ground, that's when it unleashes it's 1 hit ko skill. You can either wait for where the owls come up, or flash jump left out of the vicinity of the owls. which is about 1-2 flash jumps left. Then once the beam of energy comes, just flash jump back to the tower and repeat. You have to do this as fast as you can as their are minions making way towards the left which will in turn heal the tower. I think you have about a minute 15 to a minute 30 before you're in trouble.

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raicouri

DBs gotta use final cut tho, so bum rushing the tower will do a lot less dmg than usual :O
Normally i cant see whats going on bc of the lag / sheer amount of guys.

thx for the info~

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aznanimality

Jump straight to tower, kill it within 30 seconds, np

Lol jokes but that's how i do it

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LikedBandit

drokons, get the hell out, not everybody has a good range

Dodging the instakill move is easy prior to the statue using it, it'll form a triangle of lightning or something like that and then following that are smaller statues appearing from the ground. Those locations indicate where the attack will be so all you have to do is move out of the areas where there is a small statue.

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xXMCheifXx

The only attack that OHKO's is the one that marks the ground. Really easy to dodge if you're paying attention. I only die when I lag.
I do finish in ~20 seconds, though

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Cosmos

I just skip to the boss... I use my Lv 151 pally with my Kaisers 2H sword <3 (Meaning I have bad def </3).

Edit: Doesn't take more than a minute even if I die once or twice

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DiuMeHarder

i rambo the final tower i manage to kill it in like 30 secs if i dont lag or 1 hit ko'd

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