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Unique +2all skills/+6% dex Czak helm P/C

Just wondering..
atm it has 21/30/22/20 with 2 slots
unique stats (2lines):
+2 all skills
+6% Dex
SS: http://i51.tinypic.com/2h6rskw.jpg
EDIT:
So, it turns out that after BB this potential stat will in fact bring skill levels over 30 (only 4th job skills) and could possibly stack with paladin's new skill, combat orders, for a max of skill level of... i think 34.
Sources:
http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1665316 ([b]post #8[/b]

Also, here's another real hard one to get a p/c on..
16str/2dex/32acc/118att Maple Demon Axe (lv64 2h axe)
2 line rare potential:
+4all stats
+14 acc

November 2, 2010

38 Comments • Newest first

loil

Sell it~~~

Reply November 2, 2010
Galavan

Question!

Does this affect blessing of fairy?

Reply November 2, 2010
kop

It's orange!

Reply November 2, 2010
Undexme

i sold a scar helm, same stat but also with a door for 1,3b
this is the price
goodluck

Reply November 2, 2010
TheFurySin

[quote=Ravath]Dang, 33att above average and doesn't even break 300m.
But you've got a point.

@2Above
combat orders?

@1above
yes, I'm absolutely sure.
Should I take an ss? o.o[/quote]

Save both for the Big Bang patch. Skills can go higher than 30 with such equipment and crusaders and heroes can use both axes and swords, since there's just one mastery for both.

Reply November 2, 2010
Jinghang

The Czak? 3bil.

Reply November 2, 2010
Josiah

[quote=giblets]Sick. If i could get the same hat i would keep it as my endgame. With big bang coming a few ranged classes get 10% hp increase from a skill and going over the cap would be awesome if it allowed more % hp.
From what I hear the skill level can go up to +5.[/quote]
I heard that the skill level can go max to +2, as through analysing the game files, the damage calculations & functions stuff up after +3. Also, there hasn't been any verified proof of a +3/4/5

Reply November 2, 2010
alexmonia

Ahh I guess it's good

Reply November 2, 2010
giblets

Sick. If i could get the same hat i would keep it as my endgame. With big bang coming a few ranged classes get 10% hp increase from a skill and going over the cap would be awesome if it allowed more % hp.
From what I hear the skill level can go up to +5.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=alexmonia]I'm wondering why you 100%'d it.[/quote]

Here's how I came about getting it:
Bought a unique 2 lined one with 7 100%'s on it. Cubed it. Got these stats. Used a 90% vega'd helm dex. Now it's here.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
alexmonia

I'm wondering why you 100%'d it.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=ryuushinou]The paladin skill is a party skill ain't it?[/quote]

yeah, meaning I could be just as pro w/o being a pally

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
SeraOfDragon

After BB helmets like this are going to all the rage.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=ninjadixie]Uhh, +%d is a mistake. It's solely a "+".[/quote]

Yeah, I guessed that at first.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
mhi200

35 = I'm guessing. From what I know 34 yes, 35 maybe.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=alexoftennis]its +2 all skills. I got +1 att skills before. You have to have at least 1 skill point in a skill to get the boost AND you can't go above max. (ex lv 30 thorns did not go to 31)[/quote]

Yeah, thats right now. After BB 4th job skills can surpass 30 (supposedly for a max of lv35)

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
ninjadixie

[quote=Ravath]Lol, dayum. Okay. o.o
i wish it had %str instead of dex tho. T-T

edit:
@Above
Not after BB[/quote]

Uhh, +%d is a mistake. It's solely a "+".

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
alexoftennis

its +2 all skills. I got +1 att skills before. You have to have at least 1 skill point in a skill to get the boost AND you can't go above max. (ex lv 30 thorns did not go to 31)

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
ryuushinou

[quote=samekim93]Your helm is going to be near- priceless after BB patch. Why not make your own paladin? Seeing how you have such a godly helm, you could probably be THE BEST paladin in MS history[/quote]

The paladin skill is a party skill ain't it?

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
sl3athOwl

Come to Windia Pl0x o.o

I need a c zak helm... and that's perfect. Tell me what you get as offers. I'm interested in seeing how much it goes for.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=mastapower]btw there's also the +%d that comes with the +2 to all skill which raises the % damage on some skills before adding the two levels.... for example, someone with your hat +lvl 15+2 TT will deal more damage than someone else with identical everything except for the +2 potential and lvl 17 TT per TT. My advice: don't sell it. The number of hats that will probably ever come into your server with this potential won't be more than 10 for at least another few years....ya ya I know you can use some upgrades somewhere else...but you can also make the money some other way. You NEED to keep this item[/quote]

Lol, dayum. Okay. o.o
i wish it had %str instead of dex tho. T-T

edit:
@Above
Not after BB

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
mhi200

Max skill level will be 35..C orders, +2 all skills CZak, and timeless/reverse equips lvled to max.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=Shinijou]Combat Orders is a 3rd job White Knight skill, it affects only the 4th job skills, so would also be a Paladin skill. I only said White Knight because it's obtained 3rd job, not 4th.[/quote]

ahaha my bad, i meant white knight*. just saying that it's also available as a potential stat from helms at the moment.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Shinijou

[quote=Ravath]Nope, searched it up. It's for this an the pally skill. On top of that, the helmet potential may be able to stack with pally skills exclusively.[/quote]

Combat Orders is a 3rd job White Knight skill, it affects only the 4th job skills, so would also be a Paladin skill. I only said White Knight because it's obtained 3rd job, not 4th.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=Shinijou]@BigKebab I think that's just with the new White Knight skill.[/quote]

Edit: Whoops, i meant that that effect that bigkebab was talking about applying to both the white knight skill combat orders and the potential stats on this helm.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Shinijou

@BigKebab I think that's just with the new White Knight skill.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
ninjadixie

Yep, after BB your helmet is a gold mine. The +All Skills stat can go over the max level on a skill which makes it one of the best bonuses you can get on a helmet.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=BigKebab]im almost certain after bb u can get higher than max level on skills, googke it[/quote]

Found it. Holy crap. Only affects 4th job skills.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
BigKebab

im almost certain after bb u can get higher than max level on skills, googke it

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=JasYo]Hey can you ss what the +2 does to a maxed skill ?[/quote]

It doesn't take it two over the max, if you were wondering. That would have been insane. Lv32 mw anyone?
I guess that doesn't make it worth quite as much as it would be if it could, but I guess it keeps me 6 levels of stats ahead of others lol..

however it affects all skills down to 1st job.

EDIT: Scratch that, after BB, it'll take the skill level over max, and apparently able to stack with combat orders from pallys to bring a max skill level of.. 33? or 34.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
SeraOfDragon

That is an amazing helmet.
+2 skills and 6% dex, wish I had that.
No idea what it is worth though.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=Rocketmasta]I am the expert and I shall interpret this abnormality......[/quote]

Do give your jurisdiction on this piece of equipment.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=firedje]it gives 2% to all skills ....[/quote]

im pretty sure its +2 points to all skills, if you look at the ss.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
pyronoob1994

@ravath I guess you just made over 2.5 bil if that adds +2 to all skills...

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

@above
all skills.

edit: here's a better pic
http://i51.tinypic.com/2h6rskw.jpg

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
Ravath

[quote=hyperfire7]That is a pretty good axe, but as you know, the number of Saders/Heroes that use Axes are kinda low, so I wouldn't say more than 250m.
CZak I have no clue.[/quote]

Dang, 33att above average and doesn't even break 300m.
But you've got a point.

@2Above
combat orders?

@1above
yes, I'm absolutely sure.
Should I take an ss? o.o

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
xKlaudex

Are you sure it's Stats and not Skills? o.o

That's an insane potential effect if it's skills ;d

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited
hyperfire7

That is a pretty good axe, but as you know, the number of Saders/Heroes that use Axes are kinda low, so I wouldn't say more than 250m.
CZak I have no clue.

Reply November 2, 2010 - edited