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Is the jacket black? If so I want one.

I don't know anyone who seriously thinks of their DrK as a HB mule. If anything, it's only a joke. But if someone REALLY thinks of themselves as a HB mule then they should just stop playing DrKs. And DrKs don't have top damage, just new moves.
The way I see it, DrKs don't want people to bandwagon because with the influx of a class comes inflation of their class items.

I would like to see the threads you mentioned though, TS.

*cough* just enjoy wacking things with a blade on a stick *cough*

Oops, didn't reply to this earlier.

[quote=Babyrice]we all know drk is not the strongest is all warrior class, but why keep clowning on our dmg? dont got anything positive to say about drk? its like saying ohio is not a good place to go on vacation and we all know that and your the mayor of ohio, but do you want to tell ppl ohio suck so they dont go? at least say something good about the place so ppl can enjoy the fun side of ohio. there always a positive side about something negative[/quote]

Our point is, as I have been repeating over and over again, is that DrKs aren't really good for damage or party support, they're just fun. I've always been saying that, isn't that something positive? Have you not been noticing that I've said they're fun to play like a million times over?

[quote=Babyrice]we all know drk is not the strongest is all warrior class, but why keep clowning on our dmg? dont got anything positive to say about drk?[/quote]

Good question to why people down on Dark Knights.

We don't have damage, and we don't have survivability. Heroes have the damage, and Pallys have the survivability. What do Dark Knights have that's unique and makes us out shine all the other classes? Nothing. C'mon, give me something that Dark Knights are good at. Hyper Body gets dispelled at all the high-tier bosses, and I'd rather make a Paladin if I were a Crash mule.

Right now all I have to display is my HP and lag-free environment.

[quote=Babyrice]we all know drk is not the strongest is all warrior class, but why keep clowning on our dmg? dont got anything positive to say about drk? its like saying ohio is not a good place to go on vacation and we all know that and your the mayor of ohio, but do you want to tell ppl ohio suck so they dont go? at least say something good about the place so ppl can enjoy the fun side of ohio. there always a positive side about something negative[/quote]That example doesn't exactly work out. For one, Ohio's a state, so the elected official in charge would be a governor. For two, the amount of tourists affects the amount of revenue brought in through the taxes they pay when purchasing goods or services. You also (hopefully) want your state to prosper, and more consumers means more money for the businesses, which translates to jobs, and so on and so forth. You see, the governor (or mayor, whoever), has something to gain or lose. We on the other hand have nothing to gain or lose. We just say it as it is.

-takes out straitjacket-

Oh baby. ;]

It's okay. Just relax. We're gonna take you to a nice white padded room and put you a real comfortable jacket that makes it so you don't have to move your arms

[quote=n0sXPIE]Okay, it's a ruse. Dark Knights really are over powered when Ascension came out. Dark Impale turns this entire class around and makes it into the top 3 for DPS easily. If you want damage, become a Dark Knight or get left behind. And yes, we have been telling people not to make Dark Knights because we wanted the scrolls and books to be cheaper. Make one and see how completely over powered we are, but you didn't hear this from me. [/quote]

JENNY, WE GOT ANOTHER ONE REQUIRING A FORCE JACKET OR WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLED IN ENGLISH!
*shoots sleep darts*

[quote=GunsTheSparkle]Regardless of facts or precieved conceptions, I think we can all agree that there is no plot to deter bandwagoners with troll threads or comments for cheaper scrolls and equipment, which was the original point of this thread.[/quote]

we don't stop bandwagoners, we stop misinformed damage hoars, bandwagon or not.

we all know drk is not the strongest is all warrior class, but why keep clowning on our dmg? dont got anything positive to say about drk? its like saying ohio is not a good place to go on vacation and we all know that and your the mayor of ohio, but do you want to tell ppl ohio suck so they dont go? at least say something good about the place so ppl can enjoy the fun side of ohio. there always a positive side about something negative

Regardless of facts or precieved conceptions, I think we can all agree that there is no plot to deter bandwagoners with troll threads or comments for cheaper scrolls and equipment, which was the original point of this thread.

[quote=Babyrice]if i xfer my equips to my hero or paladin i would be alot stronger? of course. but why am i still playing my drk? because its fun fun fun! that one girl doesnt get it. always talking down on drk about dmg and not saying anything positive about drk.[/quote]

I literally facepalmed.

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2133241/2/#36222718

Read this.

That's our point when we tell people we're weak. We don't want people to make DrKs for damage, we want them to make them because they're F. U. N. FUN.

when im bossing im wacking every sec i can get ( not intended to sound nasty).

Like i said, just enjoy wacking things with a blade on a stick and you'll be fine.

if i xfer my equips to my hero or paladin i would be alot stronger? of course. but why am i still playing my drk? because its fun fun fun! that one girl doesnt get it. always talking down on drk about dmg and not saying anything positive about drk.

Right, because every single DrK should be stronger than every bishop in MS...k.
We're not a bad class, but if you're going to compare classes then keep it at the same level of funding.
Of course a heavily funded bishop would outdamage a DrK with less funding.

EDIT: Y SO NINJA

look, my whole point here is that we aren't comparing funding, we are comparing classes, class-wise, a hero and a pally > drk, and DrK >>> bishops, that's THE CLASS.

however, if you are willing to pour enough time/money into it, you can overcome your natural weaknesses, this is FUNDING, ANY class can have funding, some take more than others to be strong, that bishop was HELLA funded, but beause it was a bishop, it had to be so funded, had the guy funded a DrK instead, he would have been MUCH MUCH STRONGER. babyrice here for example.

TOO MUCH CAPS LOCK, CRUISE CONTROL!

you should go back and read my comment about hero and paladin then reply back...and bishop aint meant for dmg as well, but having a bishop out damage a drk is making all these young drk lose hope dont you get it? all you got to say is bad stuff bout drk... got anything good about drk you would like to share?

[quote=Babyrice]NL is suited for dmg naturally. not bishop. and dark knight should naturally be stronger over bishop. thats my point![/quote]

And our point here is that Heroes and Pallies and many other classes outdamage DrKs. Our damage is nothing we should boast about since we aren't a class that deals damage, get it? TS here was arguing that DrKs can be strong with funding, and yes, they can be (that's why @darkspawn980 brought up bishops, because bishops can be strong with funding too), but ultimately we aren't meant for damage.

By this thread's logic yes.

NL is suited for dmg naturally. not bishop. and dark knight should naturally be stronger over bishop. thats my point!

[quote=Babyrice]seem like you dont get it. of course nl are suited for higher dmg. but your comparing drk to a nl. im comparing drk to bishop.[/quote]

What if a bishop has 600k range and outdamages everyone in maplestory? Does that mean they are suited for damage? That's our point here.

Either way if he does more damage to my face, i can still win if i do massive damage to his stomach.

seem like you dont get it. of course nl are suited for higher dmg. but your comparing drk to a nl. im comparing drk to bishop.

[quote=Babyrice]your pride maybe intact but that one drk pride isnt. he letting ppl know he took a butt whooping from a bishop like a champ. and damage is a part of life. if you go to a bar and got in to a rumble and the other guy do more dmg to your face than you do to his, your going to get knock the F out![/quote]

Uhhh...do you not get what his point was?

He's saying that sure, funding matters, but class matters as well. A extremely godly DrK with a 500k range could easily beat a NL with 50k range, but when it comes down to the classes, NLs are the ones who are more geared for damage.

And damage on a game doesn't apply to irl situations...

your pride maybe intact but that one drk pride isnt. he letting ppl know he took a butt whooping from a bishop like a champ. and damage is a part of life. if you go to a bar and got in to a rumble and the other guy do more dmg to your face than you do to his, your going to get knock the F out!

[quote=Babyrice]if your in scania than you know who babyrice is...if not than i guess im not as popular =(. but what im trying to say is, hero and paladin is stronger than us as what you guys are implying (not me of course), but having a bishop out dmg drk too is an insult....step up your game and outdmg that bishop and reclaim your pride as a batman![/quote]I only have stalking mules in Scania. Your name is vaguely familiar, but that may be because I just saw it a while ago. Also, being popular and being well known are two different things, though they can be related.

My pride is fully intact, but if being weaker than a Bishop means losing your pride, then I'll just have to swallow my pride, as I have neither the time nor resources to out-damage the uber funded. There are more things than damage in life, or even just in MapleStory.

[quote=Babyrice]if your in scania than you know who babyrice is...if not than i guess im not as popular =(. but what im trying to say is, hero and paladin is stronger than us as what you guys are implying (not me of course), but having a bishop out dmg drk too is an insult....step up your game and outdmg that bishop and reclaim your pride as a batman![/quote]

One that's the best thing i've heard all day, and two i whole heartedly agree

if your in scania than you know who babyrice is...if not than i guess im not as popular =(. but what im trying to say is, hero and paladin is stronger than us as what you guys are implying (not me of course), but having a bishop out dmg drk too is an insult....step up your game and outdmg that bishop and reclaim your pride as a batman!

[quote=sacredgaurd1]You never answered the question why do you and the lame possy troll every god D-word minute.[/quote]Woah, woah, woah. I am a part of no one's possy. I am my own man.

Also, there are 1440 minutes in a day. I don't think that, even combined, we make up 1440 post a day, much less ones that are all trolling posts.[quote=Babyrice]LOL...i would never let a bishop out damage me. lame.[/quote]I'm only taking into account what you have on your Basil ID, so you may have other characters, but... it's kind of hard for a Bishop to [i]not[/i] outdamage a level 53 Spearman.

[quote=Babyrice]LOL...i would never let a bishop out damage me. lame.[/quote]

why? i mean, the TS says that funding makes the better class, so obviously bishop is a better class than dark knight because that bishop was hitting more than me

LOL...i would never let a bishop out damage me. lame.

[quote=sacredgaurd1]@n0sxpie I didn't even say anything like that. I said most likely we won't have the same gear. Just because other warriors might put up more damage doesn't mean you should go around degrading a class. There are alot of strong Darkknights out here. Im done commenting its getting pointless now. To many people putting words in my mouth no homo.[/quote]

today i met a bishop that outdamaged me, she hit 350k x2 every holy arrow, clearly bishops are a superior class for attacking.

Who's clelyfaye the lame again? She sounds like an awesome person. Oh, and when we say that DrKs are a weaker class, we aren't trolling. It's the truth. Glad you're done though.

@n0sxpie I didn't even say anything like that. I said most likely we won't have the same gear. Just because other warriors might put up more damage doesn't mean you should go around degrading a class. There are alot of strong Darkknights out here. Im done commenting its getting pointless now. To many people putting words in my mouth no homo.

@sacredgaurd1: fine then, about my question though?

@darkspawn980: I'm never mad its irritating and annoying. Its a difference.

@sacredgaurd1: here's the answer: because we are not, now how about you answer MY question?

also, for someone who started the thread saying "i'm not mad" you do read pretty mad.

@darkspawn980 You never answered the question why do you and the lame possy troll every god D-word minute.

@sacredgaurd1: that's the whole point, we aren't arguing FUNDING, we are arguing CLASSES, if you are unsure if you want to make a Hero or a dark knight, you have the same funding for both, the funding is constant, you want to pick the class that does the most damage with the money you already have. guess what, it ain't the dark knight!

@darkspawn980 That can't be said because it has to do with your personal gears. Don't say the little "If we had the equal gear more dmg on hero". Truth is most likely they won't have the same gear. Get your funds up all i can say.

Crimson is my color! D:<
Well, my Fighter's.

In retrospect, I have no idea what the second bold means either

and "crimson lord" is awesome

[quote=iVege]Welcome, my crimson lord.[/quote]

as much as i hate being called titles and such, i gotta admit that sounds awesome

Welcome, my crimson lord.

[quote=sacredgaurd1]@cookie4mesos Its not like i lied. Who makes a plan to troll darkknight threads to make them sound garbage as possible just so people wont make the class. Thats lame people should be able to pick [b]their[/b] class without a group of lames trolling them. [b]They resort to the old "CHEAP SCROLLS AND STUFF". That makes no sense mostly every Darkknight in this thread has a pole arm on.[/b] No one even uses spears. So that little explanation was useless. Their is no reason behind this trolling that clefyfaye the lame does and shinku. [b]Case closed.[/b][/quote]

first bold: i freaking hate that mistake
second bold: what are you even try to say here, i don't understand it.
third bold: case is never closed unless both parties come to an agreement

and it's not a plan, tell me, who hits harder, a hero or a Dark knight? on one mob? on 3 mobs? on 4 mobs? and then on 6 mobs? who attacks faster? which deals the most damage at bosses? do DB's kick our asses? answer me all of those.

@sacredguard1: Lameness subjective, so it's not a matter of truth or lies. People are able to pick a class without being trolled. All they have to do is look up information and decide for themselves instead of making a useless thread. And who the heck is resorting to CFCS? People [i]do[/i] use spears, but that has nothing to do with the argument, because once again, it's not a matter of cheaper scrolls. Objectively, by the average Mapler's standards, Dark Knights [i]do[/i] suck, because our damage output is not very high, and damage is what the average Mapler cares about. Hence we recommend against making one for the average Mapler, or to at the very least read to the guides and do their own research. [i]Now[/i] the case is closed.

@iVege: My fault, I just had to use that one-liner.

ikr

why is this thread still alive. o. bump.