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Truth hurts but you're a btch

Soooooo what I got from your posts, TS, are that you're:
-Judgmental
-Sexist
-Stereotypical
-Make a lot of brainless assumptions
Lol @ op even guys with a fake personality wouldn't want you.

@DarkTention: yep, genuine nice guy right here. girls will be all over you

@DarkTention: so you're a genuine nice guy? judging from your post i can safely assume that pigs can in fact fly

op made a vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RA4r6cokBE

lol g.i.r.l
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nice guys can't get into your pants, i guess a genuinely mean r@pist fits you perfectly.

@MistFTW:
-"using your own confidence and personality" can easily translate to genuine nice guys "performing nice deeds because they want to"

see, you focused too much on the outside so you lost sight of what was inside

now which one of us has a simplistic thought process?

-"I can say that I know PLENTY of other people, including myself, that would show their true personality right off the bat in a relationship."

sure fair enough, i'll believe you on that one. but let me just say that is incredibly easy to say when you aren't in front of the actual girl trying to make a good impression.

@yaminoodles: no way do your hw yourself

what about kind guys?

[quote=Nashi]@SaneleeBoring: you said "nice guys" not "[b]fake[/b] nice guys". That's different.
There's a lot of truly sweet guys out there that only lack confidence (and may not be mainstream-attractive) - and there are also those that would be incredibly good boyfriends but they gave up on dating because their previous partners didn't treat them well and they gave up on it.

Also, it's your own fault if you do marry someone who SEEMS nice but turns out to be a horrible person. Personally (after having my fair share of first-hand experience) I think nothing of dating someone you only knew for a few weeks or months. Sure it may work out - but the chance it won't are much higher. And yes you can end up with someone who faked their personality so much more easily then.

It's much better to get to know someone as friend and go through some rough times (arguing but making up, because you care for each other as friends!), if you fall for each other then regardless (even though you know each other's flaws and how stupid (s)he can be during arguements) then you have a much better base and you can also be sure that (s)he didn't just act nice to lure you into a friendship.

If you're so easy and go ahead and date someone you barely know it's also your fault. People don't take the time to get to know their partner anymore.
And even if they do date, they only spend shallow time, a lot of the time they don't put the slightest effort to actually get to know their partner as the person that they are. No surprise they break apart soon after.

Ugly or attractive, doesn't matter, they all have their black sheeps that act really nice and sweet at first but then it can escalate quickly. Been there. Felt horrible in my relationship, really sweet guy showed up, barely knew him, fell head over heels, finally had the guts to end my relationship, started dating new guy ... didn't take long until he became abusive.
Lucky me though he just left on his own and the guy I fell for afterwards was my best friend (who proposed to me last year~).

Don't generalize "nice guys", it makes people think of what you described as "ugly" and "lack of confidence" males - but fact is ANYONE (no matter looks, confidence, social status or social ability) can be a fake asshole.
You made it sound like you wouldn't date a "nice guy" (which I read as "softie" due to the shallow judgement) because they fail at winning you - which would only leave you with the (stereo)typical asshole (attractive, lots of confidence).
Then again neither really make super great longterm partners. At least for me. Softies (average - "ugly", few to no confidence, very sweet) are a hassle after a while. And the lack of respect from assholes is not something you can endure forever (without either growing tired or breaking apart).[/quote]

I'll pay you to do my essay assignments.

@SaneleeBoring: Oh, really? Because from your original post, all I see is that you say nice guys aren't being genuinely nice. What follows that is you saying guys are only nice to get into people's pants. NOWHERE do you mention the possibility of "nice guys" actually performing nice deeds because they want to. And I will admit that while I'm not the nicest person on the planet, I can say that I know PLENTY of other people, including myself, that would show their true personality right off the bat in a relationship.

If everyone is nice and attractive, this wouldn't be an issue.

@SaneleeBoring: you said "nice guys" not "[b]fake[/b] nice guys". That's different.
There's a lot of truly sweet guys out there that only lack confidence (and may not be mainstream-attractive) - and there are also those that would be incredibly good boyfriends but they gave up on dating because their previous partners didn't treat them well and they gave up on it.

Also, it's your own fault if you do marry someone who SEEMS nice but turns out to be a horrible person. Personally (after having my fair share of first-hand experience) I think nothing of dating someone you only knew for a few weeks or months. Sure it may work out - but the chance it won't are much higher. And yes you can end up with someone who faked their personality so much more easily then.

It's much better to get to know someone as friend and go through some rough times (arguing but making up, because you care for each other as friends!), if you fall for each other then regardless (even though you know each other's flaws and how stupid (s)he can be during arguements) then you have a much better base and you can also be sure that (s)he didn't just act nice to lure you into a friendship.

If you're so easy and go ahead and date someone you barely know it's also your fault. People don't take the time to get to know their partner anymore.
And even if they do date, they only spend shallow time, a lot of the time they don't put the slightest effort to actually get to know their partner as the person that they are. No surprise they break apart soon after.

Ugly or attractive, doesn't matter, they all have their black sheeps that act really nice and sweet at first but then it can escalate quickly. Been there. Felt horrible in my relationship, really sweet guy showed up, barely knew him, fell head over heels, finally had the guts to end my relationship, started dating new guy ... didn't take long until he became abusive.
Lucky me though he just left on his own and the guy I fell for afterwards was my best friend (who proposed to me last year~).

Don't generalize "nice guys", it makes people think of what you described as "ugly" and "lack of confidence" males - but fact is ANYONE (no matter looks, confidence, social status or social ability) can be a fake asshole.
You made it sound like you wouldn't date a "nice guy" (which I read as "softie" due to the shallow judgement) because they fail at winning you - which would only leave you with the (stereo)typical asshole (attractive, lots of confidence).
Then again neither really make super great longterm partners. At least for me. Softies (average - "ugly", few to no confidence, very sweet) are a hassle after a while. And the lack of respect from assholes is not something you can endure forever (without either growing tired or breaking apart).

that's why I'll treat you like trash
it's not what I really wanna do, but

@MistFTW: for the record, i was referring to the "nice" guys who are ONLY nice just to get a woman. not the genuine nice guys who aren't being nice for any personal gain. those types of guys are rarer than a shiny feebas and i highly doubt you are one.

[quote=SaneleeBoring]@MistFTW: "People like you have such simplistic thought processes."

ironic coming from a guy who can't even get the point and only focus on the insult

hmmm.... maybe the reason why you're focusing on the insult is because it's true on your part huh?[/quote]

Maybe you weren't paying attention when I was actually addressing what you consider to be the actions and consequences of nice guys, or whether or not someone has to be completely mean or nice. And at this point, I'd say you're trying to insult me more than you are trying to focus on your main argument, which is to say an incredibly terrible generalization. Not every "nice guy" turns out to be a gigantic d-bag later on in the relationship.

@Nivea: yep just press the back button if you can't even get the point

run away like the nice guy you are

@MistFTW: "People like you have such simplistic thought processes."

ironic coming from a guy who can't even get the point and only focus on the insult

hmmm.... maybe the reason why you're focusing on the insult is because it's true on your part huh?

[quote=SaneleeBoring]so you're telling me that you are nice to every girl you meet regardless of whether or not you are trying to make a relationship with them?

yea, keep telling yourself that[/quote]

Why is it either nice or mean? People like you have such simplistic thought processes. I'm not saying a person has to ALWAYS be nice or ALWAYS be mean. Whether or not I decide to be nice depends a lot on the situation. Why do people like you just assume that ALL girls go for jerks? Not every girl likes to be treated like crap by their boyfriend, y'know. If you have some traumatizing story about how every single boyfriend you've had has turned out to be a total jerk, then that's too bad. Some people actually decide to show their true colors when they first meet someone.

inb4
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfeys7Jfnx8]Nice Guys[/url]

[quote=Nashi]way to generalize. And if you don't like "nice guys", you'll have to stick with assholes. Good luck having a longterm relationship with those[/quote]

it's not about being an asshole that's attractive, it's about showing your true personality and not being a fake nice guy. i mean do you want to marry someone "nice" and later finding out that he is actually a d-bag

people are a lot nicer when you first meet them, they only show their true colours once its too late

@above: not the sharpest tool in the shed are we?

Human interaction is not limited to two preset behavioral patterns, you big bunch of baboons.

This debate has become like a daily thing on this site.

[quote=MistFTW]I applaud at your attempt at making nice guys feel bad. But that's all it is: an attempt. Who are you to judge who is what or who isn't what when all you do is come up with petty ways to insult others behind a computer screen?[/quote]

so you're telling me that you are nice to every girl you meet regardless of whether or not you are trying to make a relationship with them?

yea, keep telling yourself that

way to generalize. And if you don't like "nice guys", you'll have to stick with assholes. Good luck having a longterm relationship with those

I applaud at your attempt at making nice guys feel bad. But that's all it is: an attempt. Who are you to judge who is what or who isn't what when all you do is come up with petty ways to insult others behind a computer screen?

First, I agree.

Second, who are you to tell other virgins what to do?