Dc on getting Sealed
Now, this has been a known problem for a VERY LONG time, why hasn't Nexon done a single thing about this? We've had a big patch since, and so much maintenance.
For anyone who doesn't realize, if you use a command key while Sealed it DC's you.
This is most prevalent on Zakum/Czak/HT/CHT not so much PB or Emp.
You can combat this by just using the hot key version, but this comes at a cost.
If any of you don't know, you can stack Wing Beat on a monster, then use Gigas Slash to recover MUCH MORE HP.
Rather than the like 5% every hit or w/e it is. You recover 3/4 5%'s every hit of Gigas.
Now this is useful for someone like me. It makes it much easier for me to tank Czak/Zak without using potions because I can sit on his body, stack wing beat, spam Gigas and never lose hp. The constant touch damage from the body makes me immune to things like Curse/Seal/Seduce. HOWEVER, the few times that I guard and end up getting Sealed, I immediately DC.
This isn't just for me to whine, yes I'm mad that I can't abuse a glitch, but I'm sick of losing EoF. It's a complete gamble as to if I'll be able to finish a boss.
tl;dr Come on Nexon, it's been like 2 months.
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@Mirabosh: how about this. Ill upload an empress solo if you do as well. We'll see who the troll is. Oh and youre partially correct about the 80 second. Several sources say that is usually 80 seconds, however its not always consistent, ive seen it myself. The same as pb, he'll pull out a bs dr when you least expect it. With 60 seconds, youre guaranteed safety.
I noticed you said nothing about your incorrect info on status resistance. You seem to have a penchant for overlooking your own misinformation. I suggest you discard it.
Run your mouth all you want, but I have the ability to prove myself any time you put me on the spot. I doubt the same can be said for you. You wanna act like a tough guy? Lemme see your solo. No one else in the room. Go ahead.
Oh, and if you cant...then I invite you to stf.u
[quote=cilverx4]@Mirabosh: Dude, I can kill her faster than you guaranteed. In fact, I bet youve never done it by yourself before with your garbage ass specs. Her dr cooldown is 60 seconds dumbass. Ive watched her use it almost immediately at the 60 second mark multiple times. OOHHHH woah! majesty ignores dr and super defense? shut the hell up. There's not a kaiser in this game that doesnt know that. OOHH snap, you right click to cancel skill? shut the hell up, 85+% of maplers know that.
Im not flaming, I simply pointed out that you have to use transform to deal with dr at empress i.e. the only boss that matters. Stop being butthurt and take the correction for what it is scrub. And you dont need 100 willpower to have 100% resistance. -_- you need lvl 50. 60% cursebite, 30% resist pot, 10% willpower. And you need even less if you have ds link skill.
Oh but I forgot...youre the expert here, not me. Hop off my D nerd.[/quote]
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I'm just doing this so you stop missinforming people, it's pretty clear for anyone that already went to empress and know a bit about kaisers that you're just a troll, I doubt you even had a kaiser now.
@Mirabosh: Dude, I can kill her faster than you guaranteed. In fact, I bet youve never done it by yourself before with your garbage ass specs. Her dr cooldown is 60 seconds dumbass. Ive watched her use it almost immediately at the 60 second mark multiple times. OOHHHH woah! majesty ignores dr and super defense? shut the hell up. There's not a kaiser in this game that doesnt know that. OOHH snap, you right click to cancel skill? shut the hell up, 85+% of maplers know that.
Im not flaming, I simply pointed out that you have to use transform to deal with dr at empress i.e. the only boss that matters. Stop being butthurt and take the correction for what it is scrub. And you dont need 100 willpower to have 100% resistance. -_- you need lvl 50. 60% cursebite, 30% resist pot, 10% willpower. And you need even less if you have ds link skill.
Oh but I forgot...youre the expert here, not me. Hop off my D nerd.
@Sarlacc: Yes I believe that some problems are extremely simple, often being as simple as changing an operator. But in your experience as a postgrad and as a CS major, how often are problems that simple? Better yet, how often are problems that simple if you're looking at somebody else's code? If you've gone through the code and have the solution and are confident in it, then tell NEXON about it and exactly what they've done wrong, don't post here whining about it. Also, its not about a problem being encrypted. If you've debugged code and know what its like to go through so many lines of code looking for solutions to problems that are hidden in plain sight, then you should be feeling sympathy toward the people who solve these problems let them tackle the problems at their own pace, not ranting about them not doing anything on a forum that the people who's job it is to fix these problems aren't even going to look at (at least post such things on the official forums).
[quote=AquaBoogieXD]Ever think that it might not be as simple as you think it is? Have you ever debugged code? It involves trawling through hundreds (most likely thousands in this case) of lines of code which isn't even in tangible English, trying to find what is most likely a single variable that is out of place, or simply doesn't belong. You don't just go to the Kaiser section of code and expect the answer to be clear as day. Couple this with the fact that there are and always be hundreds of glitches that need to be fixed at any given point in time, and quite frankly you should be grateful if the bug is even on their list.[/quote]
The most obvious explanation is as follows:
Seal (as far as the effect in the code) has a specific list of what skills can't be used, YES it's VERY sloppy, but it just lists EVERY skill.
Now Kaiser uses action commands to use skills, these actions command skills are separate skill ID's since they have a slightly different effect.
What probably happened when we received the code, is we didn't put the ID's for command skills under the SEAL list, so when we use one during seal,
we're getting DC'd for it. For all your hate, yes I've debugged code. I graduated with a CS Major and am doing my postgrad now.
Ever think that some explanations are more simple than you'd imagine? Not every problem in a code is going to be hidden and encrypted somewhere.
Some are plain as day, but people just haven't got around to doing it. I'm really glad Nexon has been pushing new patches recently, I just think they're more worried
about new content, than to fix the old. They also added Xenon ID's, weapons, and slight changes for his coming in. So they'll probably be focusing on him next.
GG for your post though, it means a lot to me.
Ever think that it might not be as simple as you think it is? Have you ever debugged code? It involves trawling through hundreds (most likely thousands in this case) of lines of code which isn't even in tangible English, trying to find what is most likely a single variable that is out of place, or simply doesn't belong. You don't just go to the Kaiser section of code and expect the answer to be clear as day. Couple this with the fact that there are and always be hundreds of glitches that need to be fixed at any given point in time, and quite frankly you should be grateful if the bug is even on their list.
[quote=cilverx4]@Mirabosh: -_- . Dude youre completely clueless. Its common knowledge that our transform is glitched. I just said so in my previous post in this thread. Maybe you need help reading? You cant attack empress when she has dr...you know why? Because you die. She can dr once per minute, which is why you remain transformed as much as possible. However, you are right, it is 75% percent of the time for the most efficient damage, which proves my point that you dont "occasionally" transform. You transform for the majority of an empress fight, which is why I called out your post as nonsense. But maybe you forgot you wrote that, so Ill just go ahead and remind you.
Oh and you failed to mention anything about how you were completely in the wrong about the whole seal thing...so Ill just remind you about that too.[/quote]
Did you even go to empress once? Her DR CD is of 80 sec, our majesty CD is 90 sec. Oh wait, did you know majesty lets us ignore DR? You failed to mention it... Since our dps is higher untransformed, I just use majesty when she DR. When she DR again, I transform, then untransform as soon as DR is off... waitwait... Do you even know how to cancel a skill? Sure you can let transformation on, it just lowers your damage a little for a while Stop flaming if you bring nothing new to this... I was just trying to say this seal d/c isn't a major problem, considering the only bosses you need to transform to ignore DR are PB and Empress, and that PB's seal is triggered only when you get hit by his 1/1. Just keep cursebyte on and you shouldn't have any problem for a majority of your runs. And if you're that scared of d/cing, get lvl100 willpower through mining and get a resistance potions. 100% resistance right there~
I don't think the wingbeat allowing you to heal faster is a glitch o.o
If you use wingbeat on a monster and use gigas wave on nothing, you will still see your hp being healed as long as wingbeat is doing damage.
Summoning more wingbeats will allow you to heal even faster
I also read someone's post that kaiser's majesty also causes you to DC because of the speed cap or something like that
@Mirabosh: -_- . Dude youre completely clueless. Its common knowledge that our transform is glitched. I just said so in my previous post in this thread. Maybe you need help reading? You cant attack empress when she has dr...you know why? Because you die. She can dr once per minute, which is why you remain transformed as much as possible. However, you are right, it is 75% percent of the time for the most efficient damage, which proves my point that you dont "occasionally" transform. You transform for the majority of an empress fight, which is why I called out your post as nonsense. But maybe you forgot you wrote that, so Ill just go ahead and remind you.
Oh and you failed to mention anything about how you were completely in the wrong about the whole seal thing...so Ill just remind you about that too.
[quote=cilverx4]@Mirabosh I didnt say anything about seal at empress .
Oh you occasionally transform? Lol then that means you cant kill her. As someone who actually can, I'll go ahead and tell you that 85-90% of the time is spent transformed even when tracking dr. And at lvl 199? If thats accurate, you cant even use final transform, which means you definitely cant kill her.[/quote]
K I'm done, you just proved to anyone you can't play a kaiser properly Our dps is higher when untransformed because our speed is slowed down in transformation, we can't use inferno and we can't use our summon. 90% of the time transformed? Can you do maths? 90 sec over 120 sec period is 75%. And no I'm not 199, it's just I didn't update my basil, like you sir, with a random low lvl char as a basil main
@Mirabosh I didnt say anything about seal at empress .
Oh you occasionally transform? Lol then that means you cant kill her. As someone who actually can, I'll go ahead and tell you that 85-90% of the time is spent transformed even when tracking dr. And at lvl 199? If thats accurate, you cant even use final transform, which means you definitely cant kill her.
[quote=cilverx4]ummm...how about actually trying to kill empress, instead of running away after v2. I bet youll need transformation then. And occasional healing as well.
@TS yea nexon hates on kaiser's for some reason. They still havent fixed out transformation, procrastinated on fixing our secondary weapon until they introduced the rest. The fact is, they just dont care. I would bet anything that they could fix it overnight if they would just put the effort in to have their game run properly. They just don't care.[/quote]
'scuse me, when did empress start to SEAL? Yea... never. And do I need healing during empress? not more than what my potions give me. Do I need to transform? Yes, twice for v2 and occasionally during empress, when majesty isn't up. But I'm pretty sure no one can complain he got d/ced because of empress sealing him.
[quote=Mirabosh]The only time this ever bothers me is if I somehow can't kill v2 within 2 transformation... any other boss I don't really see the use of getting transformed, or recovering hp really...[/quote]
ummm...how about actually trying to kill empress, instead of running away after v2. I bet youll need transformation then. And occasional healing as well.
@TS yea nexon hates on kaiser's for some reason. They still havent fixed out transformation, procrastinated on fixing our secondary weapon until they introduced the rest. The fact is, they just dont care. I would bet anything that they could fix it overnight if they would just put the effort in to have their game run properly. They just don't care.
The only time this ever bothers me is if I somehow can't kill v2 within 2 transformation... any other boss I don't really see the use of getting transformed, or recovering hp really...