Gun Control Thoughts
As many of you may know. There has been much debate on gun control laws recently in the U.S. I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject and what you would want done.
Personally I feel that the majority of gun owners are being unjustly prosecuted for using their 2nd amendment right. I do however believe that their should be more control over who can purchase firearms, and a crackdown on gang violence which is the cause for most of the gun related deaths in the U.S.
January 8, 2013
17 Comments • Newest first
[quote=TrueAtheist]Where do you live where you have to worry about someone breaking into your house trying to kill you? Forget owning a gun for protection, you need to move the hell out of whatever ghetto area you're living in.
Also, statistically speaking you're more likely to be killed by the gun that you own in your own house, or have someone steal it and kill someone, then you are to have someone break into your house and actually use the gun for legitimate defense purposes.[/quote]
I'm not arguing about this anymore. No one is going to change their minds based on an Internet argument, so you win, ok? With the exception of one time, I haven't used basil anywhere besides on my phone for 5 months, so I don't have the will to get into any debate. You aren't going to change my mind, I'm not going to change yours.
[quote=DrHye]Then you can go ahead and play your sword crap and the rest of us will keep a pistol in our home just in case we happen to be near it when necessary.
I don't get your point. The odds of having the gun prepared and accessible at the exact right time are low, so don't have it at all? If you don't want to take a precaution that wouldn't inconvenience or endanger you in the least, then don't. But I don't see how you can say it's a bad idea using any valid points. It's not a perfect security measure, so don't consider it at all? Lolk[/quote]
Where do you live where you have to worry about someone breaking into your house trying to kill you? Forget owning a gun for protection, you need to move the hell out of whatever ghetto area you're living in.
Also, statistically speaking you're more likely to be killed by the gun that you own in your own house, or have someone steal it and kill someone, then you are to have someone break into your house and actually use the gun for legitimate defense purposes.
@fraddddBS Wait so you're saying citizens should have the right to own whatever the U.S. government/military owns? So citizens should have the right own rocket launchers, tanks, grenades, and nuclear warheads?
Also go read up on the Empire State Building shooting and look why the fatalities occurred, I can use examples too!
[quote=PallyCookie]Doesn't matter what people use, people are going to find some way to destroy people.
There was an attempted slaughter in a Chinese school by a maniac with a knife the very day as the elementary school shooting that just happened. This knife was probably nothing more than the one you find in your kitchen. We can't ban guns and expect anything to change.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/13946-china-school-knife-attack-portland-mall-attack-receive-little-coverage
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/19/us-china-attack-media-idUSBRE8BI0E920121219
Twenty two children stabbed... thankfully I believe none died.[/quote]
22 children [b]injured.[/b] Not 22 children [b]dead[/b]. If he had a gun it would have been 22 children [b]dead[/b].
Just go to alaska
If people want to have a pistol or a hunting rifle, fine. But there is absolutely NO REASON why a normal non-trained civilian needs to have a heavy-artillery assault weapon firing off rounds and rounds per minute.
hunting rifles/sports=ok
assault rifles = no
Aren't the people who commit crimes with guns most likely not all that morally conscionable? The people who do commit violent acts with guns are breaking the law, and thus, they probably wouldn't be that hesitant to break another law to obtain them.
Everyone in rich neighborhoods who wants to own a gun must be shot fatally and non fatally in a government regulated psychological exam to understand how to control a gun. That way, all the educated people can live without shootings, the poor people can handle their own neighborhood.
[quote=Demonlord]"[b]only thing[/b]"
Tis fo da ppl whu thinks guns = insta protection, like thinking condoms are 100% reliable. You, u stahp.[/quote]
Name a better protection against an encounter with an armed criminal
Also, I made it clear that I wasn't saying it was instant protection. What I was saying was that why rule out the use of a gun just because it's not an absolute guarantee for protection? It's like you quoted me but are talking to others..?
[quote=Demonlord]What kind of idiots actually support gun control. What we need is [b]bullet[/b] control. It'll be hilarious when we see gangsters wacking each other with guns rather than shooting one another.
People taking gun control as gun ban, herp'derp.
Thinking that if someone will break into your house with a gun and that the [b]only thing[/b] that will protect you is a gun, then you're screwed. You're most likely not going to have a gun at the time, you're most likely not going to be able to use the gun, you're most likely not going to have the guts to pull the trigger before the guy splatters your kid's or your brains onto the wall. Most people will probably just stand there going "I GOT A GUN, I WARN YA! I WAR-shot-" Yeup. Pft, people getting conceited thinking they'll actually have the guts to use a gun when they need to protect themselves.
Instead of guns, what we instead should start protecting ourselves with are giant ass swords. I dare a mother-lover to try and shoot me when I'm holding a giant badass sword looking like a complete badass about to go bankai.[/quote]
Then you can go ahead and play your sword crap and the rest of us will keep a pistol in our home just in case we happen to be near it when necessary.
I don't get your point. The odds of having the gun prepared and accessible at the exact right time are low, so don't have it at all? If you don't want to take a precaution that wouldn't inconvenience or endanger you in the least, then don't. But I don't see how you can say it's a bad idea using any valid points. It's not a perfect security measure, so don't consider it at all? Lolk
If we ban potatoes, then only the outlaws will have potatoes.
What stops a bad potato with a gun? A good potato with a gun.
Potatoes.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
[quote=YouOnlyLiveOnce]I don't care.[/quote]
yolo
[quote=BoxWoman]Banning guns in the U.S. will turn out like banning drugs, except with more dire consequences. Making something illegal to purchase does not get rid of the problem, it merely creates an even bigger problem: that of underground gun sales. Criminals would be more than capable of obtaining a firearm, whether it's legal for them to buy or not. It's kind of like the drug situation; pot's illegal, cocaine's illegal, etc etc, yet all of these drugs are still out there and still in heavy use.
A ban on guns would just give criminals an advantage. If an armed robber had to choose between breaking into a house he/she knows is unarmed compared to a house he/she knows carries guns, he/she will obviously pick the house without weapons. Now if all houses do not have weapons, we're all easy targets for crime.
If you're talking about a ban on assault weapons, it's the same story. If it's illegal, criminals who want them will be able to get them anyway. Law-abiding citizens will be left out in the cold, however.
Therefore, I see gun control as useless and illogical.[/quote]
I'm not one to condone statistics but the stats between the USA and any other western developed country which does not allow the possession of fire arms blatantly shows that the US has the highest rate of gun crime than the other countries. Let's be honest, half of the people wouldn't dare own a gun if it was against the law in any way, that in itself reduces the chances of gun crime. Criminals will still have access to guns agreed but gun control doesn't increase the chances of them obtaining a weapon in any way. Gun control will at least stop the emotionally/mentally scarred people going out on a spree and killing people for the sake of it because they have a gun and they want to die in an audacious way (the stuff that reaches the news and to others like me around the world).
In an ideal world, we wouldn't have guns or any other weapons. However, we live in the real world.
Historically, banning things just makes it so that people have to put themselves in danger to get what they want (ex. prohibition, abortion), but they'll still get it in the end (unless they die trying). Even today we have plenty of things that are illegal, but people have no problems getting their hands on them.
If someone really wants a gun, they'll go through any means to obtain it. At the same time, good people will be defenseless because they won't be willing to break laws to get guns of their own.
Considering the main income of the U.S.A. is the reckless mass sale of weapons, said gun control is unlikely to happen
I live in Texas, and own more guns than my safe can hold.
Where do I stand on this?
I don't care about assault rifles, etc. There are no real use for them. As long as I can keep my hunting rifles go ahead.