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[quote=chickenpoodl]yes it does.
it goes over 100% on the stat window..[/quote]

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? You even contradicted yourself considering your previous post stated that the stat window was incorrect for a brief period of time.

[quote=Avatar]I wanted to add that it can be useful to go over 100% if the monster has over 100% ignore damage. So if a monster has like 300% ignore damage or something of course it can only ignore 100% but the other 200% is like an invisible buffer so you need over 300% from items just to deal 100% of your damage but I think they changed the formula because if its multiplicative and I don't think monsters have over 100% anymore[/quote]

Actually, there are still bosses that do have over 100% PDR. Chaos Vellum has the highest at 300%. If you have 100% Ignore PDR (which is impossible to get unless you have a skill), then you'll ignore all of Chaos Vellum's PDR since you are reducing it to zero. If you only have 90% though, then you'd reduce Chaos Vellum's PDR to 30% because 0.9 * 300 = 270. The formula change from additive to multiplicative just makes it harder to reach 100%, and the maximum Ignore PDR you can reach now is only 99.99% multiplicatively.

[quote=syclipse]Ok, I tested my damage on cvellum, using a somewhat weak skill. Had a PDR of 94% shown in my stat window.
Replaced my leafre codex with a useless codex. Now I have 91% PDR. My damage seemed noticeably lower than when I had 94%.
Not sure what i did wrong lol.

Or is it because I did not ignore 90% of cvel's 300% defense? Since (300-(0.94x300))=18% damage reduction.100%-18%=82% ignored therefore not meeting the 90% cap? (im not sure if that's how you calculate it lol)[/quote]

You did nothing wrong, and your method is fine. The cap for Ignore PDR is 99.99% multiplicatively since Unleashed.

[quote=chickenpoodl]@YourSolace: yes it does.
it goes over 100% on the stat window.
but your damage won't go any higher.[/quote]

It's impossible to break 100% pdr in the stat window, I have like 200% pdr additive, it's only like 92% ish in my stats window.

[quote=Avatar]I wanted to add that it can be useful to go over 100% if the monster has over 100% ignore damage. So if a monster has like 300% ignore damage or something of course it can only ignore 100% but the other 200% is like an invisible buffer so you need over 300% from items just to deal 100% of your damage but I think they changed the formula because if its multiplicative and I don't think monsters have over 100% anymore[/quote]

CVellum has 300%. PDR is multiplicative at the moment.

[quote=chickenpoodl]@syclipse: i'm pretty sure you can simulate your own tests too in the mean-time.
strip your gear and reduce your range to something like 1mil top end.
use a simple attack skill on a boss like hard magnus and take note of your damage.
calculate how much damage you should be doing. compare to what you see.
repeat tests, write down your results for various PDR%'s
do it with approx 85%, 90%, 95% if possible.

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Ok, I tested my damage on cvellum, using a somewhat weak skill. Had a PDR of 94% shown in my stat window.
Replaced my leafre codex with a useless codex. Now I have 91% PDR. My damage seemed noticeably lower than when I had 94%.
Not sure what i did wrong lol.

Or is it because I did not ignore 90% of cvel's 300% defense? Since (300-(0.94x300))=18% damage reduction.100%-18%=82% ignored therefore not meeting the 90% cap? (im not sure if that's how you calculate it lol)

@syclipse: i'm pretty sure you can simulate your own tests too in the mean-time.
strip your gear and reduce your range to something like 1mil top end.
use a simple attack skill on a boss like hard magnus and take note of your damage.
calculate how much damage you should be doing. compare to what you see.
repeat tests, write down your results for various PDR%'s
do it with approx 85%, 90%, 95% if possible.

@Avatar
mobs still do have over 100% PDR
I think hard magnus has 120%, vellum has 300%, etc.
the amount of PDR ignore you have just removes a percentage of that.
so someone who has 50% PDR ignore, will be subject to half of the target's defense.

@chickenpoodl: ok, must appreciated if u find and post it

@syclipse: I can't find the source of this at the moment on southperry. I've messaged steele to link me it. he's the encyclopedia.

[quote=chickenpoodl]it caps at 90% anyway.
just follow exactly the figure you see on your stat window.
you won't go wrong.
there used to be issues with the way PDR ignore was calculated and displayed, but now it is correct in both UI stat window, and in game use.[/quote]

wait so, if I have 95% pdr shown in the stat window, it's actually 90%?
also is there a source for this lol.

[quote=SeeBee007]@AgedOne, when I commented back to you, you didn't post the calculation. And there's a "*" beside your comment so you obviously edited your comment after you posted
Don't get sassy with me telling me to read before speaking looll. If anyone should, it's you. I already said in my post that I checked my stats UI but you tell me to look at my stats screen. So YOU read before speaking [/quote]

I wanted to add that it can be useful to go over 100% if the monster has over 100% ignore damage. So if a monster has like 300% ignore damage or something of course it can only ignore 100% but the other 200% is like an invisible buffer so you need over 300% from items just to deal 100% of your damage but I think they changed the formula because if its multiplicative and I don't think monsters have over 100% anymore

@YourSolace: yes it does.
it goes over 100% on the stat window.
but your damage won't go any higher.

@chickenpoodl it doesn't cap at 90%

it caps at 90% anyway.
just follow exactly the figure you see on your stat window.
you won't go wrong.
there used to be issues with the way PDR ignore was calculated and displayed, but now it is correct in both UI stat window, and in game use.

@AgedOne, when I commented back to you, you didn't post the calculation. And there's a "*" beside your comment so you obviously edited your comment after you posted
Don't get sassy with me telling me to read before speaking looll. If anyone should, it's you. I already said in my post that I checked my stats UI but you tell me to look at my stats screen. So YOU read before speaking

[quote=AgedOne]For example, if you have 30% PDR from a skill and 30% from your weapon. You don't have 60% PDR, but 51% PDR. (1 - (1 - 0.3)*(1-0.3)) = 0.51.[/quote]

@SeeBee007 Read before speaking.

@AgedOne sorry I'm not quite following, what do you mean multiplicativley?

EDIT: yeah my stats UI says 83% or something, but ohh I see... That's a little complicated. Thank you

PDR is multiplicative not additive, its impossible to have 100% PDR. so right now you have 83% pdr not 150.

You can't get more than 100% PDR.

It stacks multiplicatively, not additively, and thus will never actually hit 100% unless you have over 100% PDR from a single equip.

For example, if you have 30% PDR from a skill and 30% from your weapon. You don't have 60% PDR, but 51% PDR. (1 - (1 - 0.3)*(1-0.3)) = 0.51.

Look at your stats screen, it will show you your actual Ignore Def rating there.