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[quote=Reneton]Wow, didn't know about that multiplier. Guess I have some training to do this weekend o.o
Do you find that it's better just to spam trinity during the gem phase, rather than stacking a few orbs first?
Also, what kind of dojo time are you able to achieve? ._. Since trinity caps so early, my record hasn't really improved in months .
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I haven't tried with a few Soul Seekers before I spam Trinity, but I don't think it would really help until I hit significantly higher with it.
The gem also iframes almost immediately after you kill the eyes, so usually I go to clear out mobs at the bottom before using Finale + Trinity on the gem.
I haven't had much luck with Dojo, honestly. I think I either get too much door lag, or I'm just not using the right techniques, because my best is still around 6:02.
With an Onyx Apple, MPE red and green, Guild buff, the new Star Planet buff from attendance, and an Advanced Boss Rush potion I'm able to consistently cap on Seeker (but not Expert).
I don't think the Star Planet buff or the Boss rush potion is required for me to, but I use it just in case. I follow the advice of 2 orbs at 30-35, 3 from 36-39, and 4 at 40, but it just doesn't go sub-6.
I run with the above, decent SI, Echo, and the Cygnus card set, so I think it's just my connection at this point

[quote=Reneton]
On bosses like Zakum/Horntail/Dojo bosses, you need around 1.5mil to cap with trinity, and perhaps 3.5mil to cap with soul seeker
On bosses like Gollux/Magnus/CRA, you need around 2.5mil to cap with trinity, and... 6mil to cap with soul seeker? I'm not at that point yet, so I don't exactly know, haha.[/quote]
This is pretty accurate. 3.5m is about what you need to cap on non physical resistant for Soul Seeker.

[quote=ChompRomp]Haha, thanks xD. I'm sure both you and @Reneton can probably do Hellux too.
There's actually a hidden 1.2x damage multiplier if you're 5 levels or more higher than the mobs you're attacking. This applies for everything, including Hell Gollux, which is level 210
That should give you enough damage to come much closer to fully capping on Hellux if you were level 215 or higher~[/quote]

Wow, didn't know about that multiplier. Guess I have some training to do this weekend o.o
Do you find that it's better just to spam trinity during the gem phase, rather than stacking a few orbs first?
Also, what kind of dojo time are you able to achieve? ._. Since trinity caps so early, my record hasn't really improved in months .

[quote=seishikin]Thanks guys! And hi drean lol

edit: how much range to cap with skills? assuming primary bossing skills cuz I have no idea which ones those are.[/quote]

On bosses like Zakum/Horntail/Dojo bosses, you need around 1.5mil to cap with trinity, and perhaps 3.5mil to cap with soul seeker
On bosses like Gollux/Magnus/CRA, you need around 2.5mil to cap with trinity, and... 6mil to cap with soul seeker? I'm not at that point yet, so I don't exactly know, haha.

Thanks guys! And hi drean lol

edit: how much range to cap with skills? assuming primary bossing skills cuz I have no idea which ones those are.

[quote=ChompRomp]Haha, thanks xD. I'm sure both you and @Reneton can probably do Hellux too.
There's actually a hidden 1.2x damage multiplier if you're 5 levels or more higher than the mobs you're attacking. This applies for everything, including Hell Gollux, which is level 210
That should give you enough damage to come much closer to fully capping on Hellux if you were level 215 or higher~[/quote]

I forget that's a thing. I'm currently 210 and am beyond lazy to get to 215... I should probably start training LOL!

It would help to understand the mechanics better though, since I usually die to things I don't understand how they work, especially during the eye phase. It's funny, because I only learned just today that you can duck to not get hit by the arms. Good to know though

[quote=DreanBurster]I saw your comment on my Hard Gollux video. You were so close, and now you got the kill. Gratz!

OT: I'm unsure if Lotus has i-frames or not, but considering most people need a party of capping, quick hitting classes, I'm willing to bet it's impossible for Angelic Busters.[/quote]
Haha, thanks xD. I'm sure both you and @Reneton can probably do Hellux too.
There's actually a hidden 1.2x damage multiplier if you're 5 levels or more higher than the mobs you're attacking. This applies for everything, including Hell Gollux, which is level 210
That should give you enough damage to come much closer to fully capping on Hellux if you were level 215 or higher~

[quote=ChompRomp]Hard Gollux is probably doable at around 200-300k range?
For Hellux it's much easier if you do 40-50m Soul Seeker orbs on physical-resistant, but it's possible if you can cap on the gem with Trinity.
I think that requires like 2.5m range? Much easier than the around 4m range for 40-50m Seekers though.
I had some pretty bad control for the first 2 phases >.<.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJgprSrDSvY

And yeah, AB's can't really solo Cvel. This kill with was Shade split and it was that close.
Maybe capping on Soul Seeker on Cvel would make it possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKtrTLdc3k[/quote]

I saw your comment on my Hard Gollux video. You were so close, and now you got the kill. Gratz!

OT: I'm unsure if Lotus has i-frames or not, but considering most people need a party of capping, quick hitting classes, I'm willing to bet it's impossible for Angelic Busters.

[quote=Reneton]Hellux would be so much easier if Soul Seeker Expert actually worked during the gem phase.[/quote]
Yeah, it's kind of weird when it comes to the gem. Expert won't activate on it, but if you kill a mob at the bottom and activate it, an orb can target the gem and continue hitting it until it doesn't recreate.

http://orangemushroom.net/2015/07/08/kms-ver-1-2-239-maplestory-reboot-reboot-world/#more-12788
Soul Seeker: error where the cast delay was unintentionally increased has been fixed
I hope this means that Expert can finally activate on bosses like PB statues and the Gollux gem.
Or is it talking about the random cast delay increase during the last patch to Soul Seeker from 810 ms to 900 ms...

[quote=ChompRomp]Hard Gollux is probably doable at around 200-300k range?
For Hellux it's much easier if you do 40-50m Soul Seeker orbs on physical-resistant, but it's possible if you can cap on the gem with Trinity.
I think that requires like 2.5m range? Much easier than the around 4m range for 40-50m Seekers though.
I had some pretty bad control for the first 2 phases >.<.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJgprSrDSvY[/quote]

Hellux would be so much easier if Soul Seeker Expert actually worked during the gem phase.

Hard Gollux is probably doable at around 200-300k range?
For Hellux it's much easier if you do 40-50m Soul Seeker orbs on physical-resistant, but it's possible if you can cap on the gem with Trinity.
I think that requires like 2.5m range? Much easier than the around 4m range for 40-50m Seekers though.
I had some pretty bad control for the first 2 phases >.<.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJgprSrDSvY

And yeah, AB's can't really solo Cvel. This kill with was Shade split and it was that close.
Maybe capping on Soul Seeker on Cvel would make it possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKtrTLdc3k

For Chaos Queen, I'd say you need around 1.5 clean with 2xx% boss
You can probably do Pierre with lower range, but it's mostly dependant on hat RNG
Around 1.5 for Von Bon too as long as you have 10 minutes before entering the second phase
I'm not convinced that Cvel is possible for an angelic buster to solo, regardless of range. That's because it takes a significant amount of time to stack soul seeker orbs, and cvell doesn't stay above ground for long. (I could be wrong about this though)

Personally, I needed around 12.5k Dex before I reached 2-2 clean with around 40% attack
I'm guessing around 10.5k Dex or so to reach 1.5?

And finally, I don't think angelic busters have enough lines to do significant damage to lotus