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[quote=Dear]It's more like this...
Day 1: 1-40
Day 2: 40-60
Day 3: 60-75
Day 4: 75-90
Day 5: 90-100
Day 6: 100-105
Day 7: 105-107
Day 8: 107-110
Day 9: 110-112
Day 10: 112-115
Day 11: 115-117
Day 12: 117-119
Day 13: 119-121
and so on.[/quote]

na. I made it
Day 1: 1-50
Day 2: 50-76
Day 3: 76-97

And I don't know how far I'll make it today,
But I probably can make it to 115 today.
So this last part is a guess.

Day 4: 97-115
Day 5: 115-12x

[quote=nicklewellen]theres an exp curve for bb?[/quote]
Troll much?
Play much?
go the ms website much?
and much much more

100-120 looks so glum.....I shall persevere to Paladin!

[quote=KingJehuty]i hate how ppl use the "Monsters have higher HP and less XP" excuse.

Yes, this is true, but that's because some monster's levels were increased, and in turn, some were decreased. The game has flow after BB. Meaning there is a smooth transition of XP and HP all across the levels. Nothing here will change other than the ridiculous pre-bb monster stats(WR, BF, etc).

You do level faster one way or another as long as you don't stick to the same training zones that you had pre-bb. Reason is because if you got stuck to these old zones, chances are that you'll be facing something twice your level, or somewhere near there. Once you find out the correct training zones, you'll see your XP skyrocket along with your levels.

And lets not forget the damage boost that we get from skills and calculations. This displaces any new HP that a monster might have. You'll be doing more dmg than the monster gained in HP.

So please, stop using this excuse[/quote]

lol its not an excuse. u cant say u will lvl faster.consider bb didnt happen it yet. We will know by this week. Until then, enjoy ur last day of orignial maple.

It easier, but still rough.

110-120 is 10 hours so a level an hour on 1x right?

I'd say this 2x for four hours a day.

Day 1: 1-50

Day 2: 51-70

Day 3: 71-90

Day 4: 91-105

Day 5: 106-116

Day 6: 117-120 (on 1x in four hours)

In kms, i can get to 70 in about 8 hours with 2x exp card...
seriously, its pretty avg

It's going to be easier, I just dont think quite as easy people are expecting. But who knows, I could be wrong

i hate how ppl use the "Monsters have higher HP and less XP" excuse.

Yes, this is true, but that's because some monster's levels were increased, and in turn, some were decreased. The game has flow after BB. Meaning there is a smooth transition of XP and HP all across the levels. Nothing here will change other than the ridiculous pre-bb monster stats(WR, BF, etc).

You do level faster one way or another as long as you don't stick to the same training zones that you had pre-bb. Reason is because if you got stuck to these old zones, chances are that you'll be facing something twice your level, or somewhere near there. Once you find out the correct training zones, you'll see your XP skyrocket along with your levels.

And lets not forget the damage boost that we get from skills and calculations. This displaces any new HP that a monster might have. You'll be doing more dmg than the monster gained in HP.

So please, stop using this excuse

[quote=myrdrex]Please then explain what a curve means, if I don't understand.

The XP required per level around the 60s was reduced bya good 50-60%.

However, the XP you get per kill was reduced a good 75% [b](If you used to train on family buff).[/b]

Therefore, it does not seem faster post BB.

It will be faster for anyone that never used family buff, which is nice. If that's the majority of players, then I'm fine with it. But the math simply is not adding up.

We'll have to see how things are implemented in GMS. Until I can test it with characters across a variety of level ranges, I'm simply not seeing how it will be faster when you take all variables into account.[/quote]

FJBDSAIUVEWBAVKJSDABG~?

In KMS, practically every monster you kill drops like 3 potions in a row. Like wtf.
And its SO much easier lving.
I got to lv 50 in like 3-4 hours just by killing the monsters near King Pepe's castle thing (penguins)

[quote=waynegreat1]I don't think anyone here understands what a curve means.

Yeah wow, congrats, we could get more experience per kill in the 50s.

I know (since I have played a KMS account) that it's easy to get from 30-50 in a few hours, and you can level every 15-20 minutes 50-70.

Everyone that says it is hard doesn't know what they are talking about.[/quote]

Please then explain what a curve means, if I don't understand.

The XP required per level around the 60s was reduced bya good 50-60%.

However, the XP you get per kill was reduced a good 75% (If you used to train on family buff).

Therefore, it does not seem faster post BB.

It will be faster for anyone that never used family buff, which is nice. If that's the majority of players, then I'm fine with it. But the math simply is not adding up.

We'll have to see how things are implemented in GMS. Until I can test it with characters across a variety of level ranges, I'm simply not seeing how it will be faster when you take all variables into account.

[quote=roflxnickxD]if only it was that easy ..
no, grinding will still be required .
it's just not as bad as beforee[/quote]

It actually is that easy =P. Well, for some people XD

I hope that it's going to be like, 50% of our current exp needs, not 50% of KMS ones, since we already have one in place.

[quote=nicklewellen]theres an exp curve for bb?[/quote]

oh my, child, where have u been

(LOL I SOUND SO OLD)

[quote=Gradyftw]I plan on getting lvl 100 the day of big bang x)[/quote]

I plan on finding were the henehoes go any maybe lvl on my sin for the fun of bein a ninja

I look down at my body and touch something.

[quote=pyronoob1994]i really need to know this as well. I'm trying to get from 112-120 in 3 days of 1x D:[/quote]

You can do that easily during Big Bang on 1x.

OT: It took me 2 days to get to level 70.

[quote=xXhavocXx]How is the total XP you get per hour cut off by 70% aren't they also changing monsters lvls and exp you get from them....[/quote]

The new accuracy formulas basically mean that you need to train at monster close to your level.

Using my example, a level 55 character wouldn't want to train at a mob >60ish or so after BB, regardless of their accuracy. Even if they had 9999 accuracy, they would still miss 25% of the time on a level 60 mob (5% miss per level difference).

Level 60 mobs give around 300 XP after BB (if extracts and Tespia can be trusted).

Pre-BB level 55 could easily train at Windraiders, getting 800 XP each.

That's HUGE drop per kill.

Couple in the fact that family buff seems to be going from 2X to 1.2X, and you're talking serious nerfs to how much XP you get per monster.

[quote=myrdrex]That's somewhat what I'm expecting, which is why I commented on those simple but clear examples. Look at the XP you get now, and then look at the XP you get after BB. It's a tiny fraction for many level ranges.

Yay, the XP I needed to level got cut by 60% Whoopee! However, the XP I'm taking in per hour got cut by 70% So I'm a bit worse off! Crud!

So, we'll see. I'm with you though- I suspect there's going to be some people feeling very let down... Let's hope we're wrong![/quote]

Lol. No it will be true sadly. Even though people dreams might be crush when this might be the chance they can lvl 120 in a week. That guys list of days is impossible on 1x. Also the castle is not in the big bang patch, so u wont have the good exp.

Does anyone care to back up any of these statements with actual sources?

k guys asking just look at the curve they gave you, if you do not know how to read graphs than you need to go back to math class.

LAWL PEOPLE 2200 hp 530 exp after big bang octobunnies=D now its not MP3 its MP2 =D

I need 2x cards pretty bad ): I want to at least hit lvl 135 soon D:

Level 1-30 is actually going to be MORE difficult to attain. Then levels 31-169 are supposed to be easier. Then level 170-200 are supposed to be just as difficult to attain. This is what I have gathered through numerous different sources, and im not trying to say i'm right...but this is what i've heard. Basically the curve will be more steady in the end.

It only takes me 4 hours to get to Level 30 right now ._.

But if you're just trying to say that after BB the leveling rate is like 5x faster (assuming somebody plays 10hours a day,) then yes; it will only take that long to achieve level 30.

[quote=demonko33]It wont be as easy as people say it would be... All of the reasons are stated from other responds. I high doubt that 2x rep is going stay. Nexon dont have to say to do wat they are going to do.I remember a thread saying they changed the i-frame of db without saying anything. Watch everyones' hopes get crushed like the black Friday sale...[/quote]

That's somewhat what I'm expecting, which is why I commented on those simple but clear examples. Look at the XP you get now, and then look at the XP you get after BB. It's a tiny fraction for many level ranges.

Yay, the XP I needed to level got cut by 60% Whoopee! However, the XP I'm taking in per hour got cut by 70% So I'm a bit worse off! Crud!

So, we'll see. I'm with you though- I suspect there's going to be some people feeling very let down... Let's hope we're wrong!

It took me like 5hours to get to level 50 on KMS on 1x. o_o

[quote=myrdrex]The very low levels might be faster, yes.

But consider what happens when you hit 50.

Previously you could go to level 70 Windraiders in the low/mid 50s and get 800 XP a kill. (1600if you use family 2X buff).
After BB you will be stuck training on monsters around your same level, which will give around 200ish a kill. Family buff is nerfed, so that's 250ish per kill.

Pre BB: A level 55 Aran could be getting 1600 a kill at WR- leveling many times an hour.
Post BB: A level 55 Aran will be getting 250 a kill at (a large choice of mobs).

The same thing goes for people int heir 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.. that used to be able to head to Newties, Skelies, Gallos, Himes, etc... They USED to be able to train on mobs worth a ton of XP much higher level than them. Now they'll be training at mobs that give them 25% of what the used to get- especially if they used family buffs.

So, the curve pretty much just helps to cancel that out at many level ranges. I honestly don't think people will be skyrocketing to 120 in just a short period of time. I know all my level 120+ characters got there by grinding on monsters much higher level than me, racking in huge XP totals (newtie sniping at level 71 on a Outlaw, for example, on 4X- which isn't possible anymore).

Let's keep our fingers crossed that it's as easy as everyone assumes! But, we'll need to try it for ourselves to see for sure.[/quote]
It wont be as easy as people say it would be... All of the reasons are stated from other responds. I high doubt that 2x rep is going stay. Nexon dont have to say to do wat they are going to do.I remember a thread saying they changed the i-frame of db without saying anything. Watch everyones' hopes get crushed like the black Friday sale...

[quote=iSmashBugs]i saw a vid of a mech leveling from 40-50 in one hour with no 2x. he had clean equips and the level 20 gun 100%'d.

lets say you grind 12 hours a day.

its more like:

day 1: 1-60
day 2: 60-95
day 3: 95-110
day 4: 110-120
day 5: 120-130
day 6: 130-138
day 7: 138-145
day 8 : 145-150
day 9: 150-160 (skeles!)
day 10: 160-165
day 11: 165-170
day 12: 170-177 (van leon castle training)
day 13: 177-182
day 14: 182-185

so in 2 weeks 12 hours a day you can get to 185 about.[/quote]
Dude we dont have the castle is after the Big Bang. Fail ... Also the monsters have huge amount hp. U would have to have really good equips to killed the monster fast.
We need to spend alot of nx in order to get to 185...

[quote=silva69]with the new exp curve.

lets say it takes one player 2 days to get to level 30.

im guessing it'll only take em like ... 4 hours to get to level 30 afterwards right?[/quote]

The very low levels might be faster, yes.

But consider what happens when you hit 50.

Previously you could go to level 70 Windraiders in the low/mid 50s and get 800 XP a kill. (1600if you use family 2X buff).
After BB you will be stuck training on monsters around your same level, which will give around 200ish a kill. Family buff is nerfed, so that's 250ish per kill.

Pre BB: A level 55 Aran could be getting 1600 a kill at WR- leveling many times an hour.
Post BB: A level 55 Aran will be getting 250 a kill at (a large choice of mobs).

The same thing goes for people int heir 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.. that used to be able to head to Newties, Skelies, Gallos, Himes, etc... They USED to be able to train on mobs worth a ton of XP much higher level than them. Now they'll be training at mobs that give them 25% of what the used to get- especially if they used family buffs.

So, the curve pretty much just helps to cancel that out at many level ranges. I honestly don't think people will be skyrocketing to 120 in just a short period of time. I know all my level 120+ characters got there by grinding on monsters much higher level than me, racking in huge XP totals (newtie sniping at level 71 on a Outlaw, for example, on 4X- which isn't possible anymore).

Let's keep our fingers crossed that it's as easy as everyone assumes! But, we'll need to try it for ourselves to see for sure.

O.O why don't we all just shut up and find out

[quote=DarkLink75]Remember people, leeching doesn't exist anymore in Big Bang. So if you based your theories on leeching, you might want to re-calculate it just a bit.[/quote]

Right now, training is already better than leeching if you aren't 6x.

[quote=clerichealer]this is probably for ppl playing 2-3 hours i day right?[/quote]

no.. U have to get like 2x/4x for 119-121. On one time wont cut it. I dont think it would be as easy like u people say it would be. All monsters hp increased. Also theres no more leeching and no more power lvl unless u can get the acc u need to hit the monsters. Training areas changed too.
People are jumping to conclusion!

[quote=sakurarose8955]I haven't heard anything like that o-o
Have the gm's posted anything about that?[/quote]

I don't know I don't read the Nexon forums
Although it would be good if 2x exp cards remained, that would be too much spoon feeding

[quote=ChildCrusade]Aren't 2x cards removed?[/quote]

I haven't heard anything like that o-o
Have the gm's posted anything about that?

Aren't 2x cards removed?

[quote=Lejendus]Is that with or without 2x cards and/or leeching?[/quote]

That's definitely without 2x cards.

[quote=Dear]It's more like this...
Day 1: 1-40
Day 2: 40-60
Day 3: 60-75
Day 4: 75-90
Day 5: 90-100
Day 6: 100-105
Day 7: 105-107
Day 8: 107-110
Day 9: 110-112
Day 10: 112-115
Day 11: 115-117
Day 12: 117-119
Day 13: 119-121
and so on.[/quote]

Is that with or without 2x cards and/or leeching?

theres an exp curve for bb?

[quote=ItsTJ]Exactly. @Pyronoob1994 It is exactly half or a little bit more than half to level from 100~120 but you still have to be dedicated to get there but it wont take as long half of the time exactly[/quote]

Well, 3-4 BoTs and one ME clears a whole mob for me

okay so then the hardcore grinders/leechers can make a new class in 5 days then?

so ...
Day 1: get to 30.
Day 2: get to 70
Day 3: get to 100
Day 4: get to 120

from what the chart shows, it should be about the same leveling the first few levels after each advancement, but after a few levels it becomes dramatically easy and you will breeze till the next advancement

i really need to know this as well. I'm trying to get from 112-120 in 3 days of 1x D:

Pretty much.