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Some questions for building a computer

I plan to buy a Radeon 7970 for the computer I'm building, would a 750w power supply be decent a long with the computer being water cooled (Also for over clocking) . Should I go with the Asus sabertooth or the asus maximus V . I plan on getting the I5 but is the i7 worth spending a bit more on or should I get a different one in the same price range all together . Also would this build be able to run high end games on the higher side of the settings?. This might not seem like the best build ever but this is the one I wan't to go for unless it cannot run high end games very well.

October 28, 2012

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djpinc19

I usually recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 PLUS or Hyper 212 EVO for that type of overclocking because they perform extremely well for how much they cost. If it turns out that big overclocks aren't your thing, then you are left with a heatsink that wasn't expensive and gives good core temperature control. However, I do realize that an LCS cooler does have aesthetic value inside a case with a side window.

Reply October 29, 2012
skullowls

[quote=djpinc19]The only thing thing that concerns me at this point is overclocking and CPU cooling. Do you know what you are trying to achieve?[/quote]

For overclocking, not really, I thought it would be something to try out but not going all out to mess stuff up.I'll be getting some help with it.

Reply October 29, 2012
djpinc19

The only thing thing that concerns me at this point is overclocking and CPU cooling. Do you know what you are trying to achieve?

Reply October 28, 2012
skullowls

@djpinc19: Then I think I'll drop the triple monitors and go for single or double as for resolution for single I'm not sure. Anything else you would like to mention for the build?, the case I'm probably going to use is the NZXT phantom 410. I can't give out too much information on the full build yet but I should be able to get the information for what I'll be using by the end of the week (As I need to confirm stuff and etc).

Reply October 28, 2012
djpinc19

[quote=skullowls]yes triple monitors[/quote]

Well that changes everything. I expect Battlefield 3 on Ultra with 3x1080p monitors would require at least dual GTX 670s or dual HD 7970s (I have yet to see data using the newest drivers.)

..in which case a quality 700-850 watt would be recommended.

[quote=skullowls](You seem a bit more hostile then normal)[/quote]

I probably am however, my condescending tone is more directed to those posting crap in this thread.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

@djpinc19: Yeah, I know they were crappy awnsers and yes triple monitors. I think I might go for the Maximus V because of the WiFi which I would benifit a lot from and the other extra features. As for a budget, that's something I can't give, at least at the moment. That's....Good enough. (You seem a bit more hostile then normal)

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
djpinc19

Qwan is really the only poster you should be listening to right now. Almost everyone else is just saying random stuff that isn't entirely true just to make himself look credible with the exception of qwan and ehnogi. You also didn't provide the proper details to qwan's questions. What does highest resolution even mean? 1080p...1440p...triple monitors? You have to go back and give better answers to those questions.

[quote=skullowlswould a 750w power supply be decent[/quote]

It's overkill. 750 watts is regarded as a minimum for some dual high-end GPU systems.

[quote=skullowls]Should I go with the Asus sabertooth or the asus maximus V. I plan on getting the I5 but is the i7 worth spending a bit more on or should I get a different one in the same price range all together[/quote]

Regarding the motherboards, both of which are enthusiast-range... neither are good buys. Unless you really want the fancy extras such as the ports, wi-fi (which the latter has), and multiple PCI-E slots, it's far more economical to buy a cheaper mid-range or high-end motherboard. ASUS has many of them and even one of the cheapest of its mid-range motherboards, the P8Z77-V LX, overclocks just as well as the enthusiast boards even though it has fewer ports and is not meant for Crossfire/SLI setups.

i5s game just as well as i7 counterparts is because PC games don't need very many cores - it's rare to find a game that can use more than two processor cores. This is also because the i5 and the i7 fundamentally use the exact same chip differing only by the i7s hyperthreading capability.

[quote=skullowls]would...the computer being water cooled (Also for over clocking)[/quote]

Gamers don't benefit from watercooling because most PC games aren't heavily CPU dependent. Even the i3 is also comfortably powerful enough for everyday office applications such as word processing and we browsing.

[quote=skullowls]Also would this build be able to run high end games on the higher side of the settings?. This might not seem like the best build ever but this is the one I wan't to go for unless it cannot run high end games very well.[/quote]

The HD 7970 plays Battlefield 3 on Ultra at 1080p resolutions. Is that not good enough or is that too good for you?

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

[quote=Thrashal3]this is a nice build man. Go with the i5 3570k. you can easily get an OC to 4.2 with ur water cooling. It would definately be able to run anything on max settings with a nice frame rate.[/quote]

Thanks man

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

[quote=matthew999]Alienware can support lol with 80 fps >.>[/quote]

Something tells me you don't know what you're doing.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

[quote=qwan456]Are you going to add a second 7970 in the future? 750w is extremely overkill for any single GPU card setup even with an OCed SB-E build.
What kind of water cooling setup are you doing? Those close-loop coolers like the Corsair H100? Or full custom water cooling loop? What kind of expectation do you have for your overclock?

Other questions that would be helpful in helping you pick your parts for your needs would be:
What's your budget?
What country/state are you from?
What type of games you will be playing? At what resolution?
What will you be doing outside of gaming (be specific)?
Will this budget include the monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc?

If you already have a build in mind, post the components and the regulars at the non-ms tech will look at them (I have to go ATM, so I won't be able to for while).[/quote]

I don't really have plans for the future right now, I'm not sure If I'll add another one or not.I'll be playing games such as Borderlands 2,Minecraft,Guild wars 2,Battlefield, League of Legends, Diablo 3, whatever games I like that come out in the future. A budget is really hard to say because of the way I'm getting my parts I can't really say for a budget. It won't include keyboard,mouse, monitor, etc.I'll try to play the games at the highest resolutions and settings for the best experience. I'll post the parts in a bit as I am still deciding on exactly what.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
ehnogi

Just get an AMD processor with 8 cores. Sure they don't run as fast, but if you're planning on overclocking, more CPUs would be your best bet especially with liquid cooling.
Besides... you don't need to overclock the newest i7s for games nowadays. That's for your video card to determine.

Also... new liquid cooling systems are sealed and don't require maintenance. It works like a car's radiator without needing to change fluids.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
qwan456

Are you going to add a second 7970 in the future? 750w is extremely overkill for any single GPU card setup even with an OCed SB-E build.
What kind of water cooling setup are you doing? Those close-loop coolers like the Corsair H100? Or full custom water cooling loop? What kind of expectation do you have for your overclock?

Other questions that would be helpful in helping you pick your parts for your needs would be:
What's your budget?
What country/state are you from?
What type of games you will be playing? At what resolution?
What will you be doing outside of gaming (be specific)?
Will this budget include the monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc?

If you already have a build in mind, post the components and the regulars at the non-ms tech will look at them (I have to go ATM, so I won't be able to for while).

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

[quote=WhiteChristmas]If your going to do water cooling, be prepared to take care of it. You have to drain the water out of your cooling block? (Correct me if i'm wrong). And then add new water.

But other than that, it looks like a decent build.[/quote]

Okay,and one more thing, this might seem like a stupid question but, So it could run anything of current gen on the highest settings?.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited
skullowls

[quote=WhiteChristmas]-750 Watt PS will do the job.
-Why are you going to water cool your system? Is it for looks or are you going to do serious overclocking?
-Both motherboards are good. I would go with the Asus Sabertooth. But both will work with the i5 or i7 Ivy bridge CPU's.
-Get the i5. Since you said your going to overclock get the K version. The i5 3570k. Their really isn't that much of a difference. It all depends what your going to do with your PC. If its just for gaming get the i5. If your going to graphic design etc.. get the i7.
-This build will be able to run every game you through at it.

Also, don't forget the ram. If your gaming, get 8GB or Ram. If your doing graphic design and video editing get 12GB or more. Depends on your needs.[/quote]

Thanks really big help , I think I'll go cosair for 8GB RAM , I might to a bit of graphic design but nothing major I don't plan on doing any video editing, It's for a bit of both and the fact that air cooling really annoys me. Are there any concerns for this build or problems, I'll mostly do gaming on it, big games, mmorpgs, hosting servers. Any thing else you suggest?.

Reply October 28, 2012 - edited