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@nikeball123: Yuh yuh. Not a bad addition. Like I said, I'm not against getting empress equips, just against the full set (Mainly the cape). Getting the full set is more viable for mages, though, because they usually have to make their own gear anyways. But yeah, I'm done arguing over this... gonna go stare at them BM hyper skills ^.^

[quote=Dayias]You could always get an event bow.
But let's do it your way then. Empress bows are what... 200m clean? We'll buy your bow and we'll use 100m to work with and get the most bang for our buck.
Now, I've seen prices this low before.. you just gotta look.
1. average empress gloves - 10m
2. average falcon hat - 10m
3. 6% earrings - 30m
4. 4% belt - 10m
5. 4% shoes - 10m
6. 3% dex cape - 20m
7. 3% overall - 10m
And there you have it. 20% dex for only 100m. Now you've got the empress bow, an empress hat, and the empress gloves with 5 att as well.
You see, Empress gear is great, but trying to shove as much empress gear on your character for the set effect is just a waste of money.[/quote]
Instead of the 4%shoes, an empress shoes would give 16atk. (1+15from set)

[quote=nikeball123]@Dayias: You forgot that if you spent all those mesos on the %dex crap, you won't have a bow. On the other hand, you already got an empress bow.[/quote]
You could always get an event bow.
But let's do it your way then. Empress bows are what... 200m clean? We'll buy your bow and we'll use 100m to work with and get the most bang for our buck.
Now, I've seen prices this low before.. you just gotta look.
1. average empress gloves - 10m
2. average falcon hat - 10m
3. 6% earrings - 30m
4. 4% belt - 10m
5. 4% shoes - 10m
6. 3% dex cape - 20m
7. 3% overall - 10m
And there you have it. 20% dex for only 100m. Now you've got the empress bow, an empress hat, and the empress gloves with 5 att as well.
You see, Empress gear is great, but trying to shove as much empress gear on your character for the set effect is just a waste of money.

@Dayias: You forgot that if you spent all those mesos on the %dex crap, you won't have a bow. On the other hand, you already got an empress bow.

[quote=nikeball123]The empress set isn't even expensive, besides the cape. You really wouldn't be able to afford anything with the worth of a falcon hat,shoes,overall,gloves, and bow. Those only adds up to around 300m, you won't get much with 300m.[/quote]
Here's what I'd buy with 300m.
1. 9% dex earrings - 100m
2. 4% dex belt - 10m
3. 4% dex shoes - 10m
4. 4% dex top - 40m
5. 4% dex bottom - 40m
6. 10 att wg - 60m
7. 3% dex cape - 20m
Then you got about 20m left over, and a total of 28% dex as well as a 10 att wg.
Now the set effect will only give +15 att and +20 all stats with only 5 pieces. I guess I just fail to see how how that's better than 28% dex.

[quote=Dayias]@nikeball123: Well, as I said earlier, you could get about 40% main stat for the price of full empress... which is better than the full empress clean. Now, start cubing and scrolling that empress set and you can start getting even more % stat. Not to mention that warriors/thieves/and sometimes archers can get a top/bottom combo which makes it that much easier to out do the empress set.
And going for the 30% boss when you only have like a 30k range is pretty dang pointless. You could just get a 10k range boost with the money you'd save from not buying empress and do 30% more damage to everything.[/quote]
The empress set isn't even expensive, besides the cape. You really wouldn't be able to afford anything with the worth of a falcon hat,shoes,overall,gloves, and bow. Those only adds up to around 300m, you won't get much with 300m.

@nikeball123: Well, as I said earlier, you could get about 40% main stat for the price of full empress... which is better than the full empress clean. Now, start cubing and scrolling that empress set and you can start getting even more % stat. Not to mention that warriors/thieves/and sometimes archers can get a top/bottom combo which makes it that much easier to out do the empress set.
And going for the 30% boss when you only have like a 30k range is pretty dang pointless. You could just get a 10k range boost with the money you'd save from not buying empress and do 30% more damage to everything.

@Dayias: Unless you can afford something like 41atk strige pants, 30+atk bfc, I would go with empress.

@nikeball123: I'm all for empress gear. Just not the full set.

@Dayias Empress isn't a waste. People that spend so much on VIP when they can just get a gm scrolled bow for 2b wastes more...

Aside from all the pro-talk above, @snackies: I think your gear is pretty decent. Have you tried looking into PQing options? HobKing PQ gives earrings and Escape PQ gives you belts(considering your eye accessory is 4% I don't think you need to go for Kenta's googles). Though they take awhile to get hey come pre-potentialed and if you ahve alchemy you can fuse them if they don't turn out well!

Also you may or may not want to switch to the homecoming armour set (current event). The Maple Legendary Armour set loses the benfits when you start to replace them (as does the homecoming) and given that you already have 1 less piece(weapon) you might want to weigh out which gives you more flexibility. The set effect for the homecoming armour is amazing and you can also acquire scrolls through Inkwell too!

Did you look into the bow and ring you can get from this current event, I forget what it's called but the bowman equivalent of the "buff bro ring" etc?

[quote=TangleViper]Not possible? Ever heard of say... BSUCLA? And with the nearly infinite ammount of non-booming slates we're getting for events, perfecting a piece of gear in a legitimate way is very well possible. Or you could just use Pam's if you have the money.

I'm not gonna claim that all of my gear is perfectly legit. I used protection scrolls on my Bow and we all know where most of those came from. But saying it's impossible to play legit is just a stupid excuse to justify using duped gear. It is possible. But of course it's not easy. I certainly respect everyone who is trying.[/quote]
I buy duped gear because it's cheaper and saves me time going out buying NX and cubing and blah. That's the main reason I buy them.
And perfecting a piece of equipment is insanely expensive or time consuming if you're doing it legit. Buying hundred of Pams songs or using hundreds of clean slates. Realize that to prefect a gear without using duped scrolls, you have to farm your own 10% scrolls. 99.99% of 50%s are duped, and probably a majority of just regular 10% scrolls in the FM are duped as well.

[quote=sacklaca123]u got a point about saving time and money
but some ppl prefer non-duped equips so they can look different (most ppl i see use the same duped gears)
for me, i dont use duped equips cuz i like to fund myself challenging way instead of put in some real money and get a hackerchief without doing anything except getting real money (another reason is i play as a non-nx player)[/quote]
Ahah, you got a point about everyone looking the same. If you scroll through the equips of someone with duped gear it all looks the same: Empress Hat, Racc mask, Gold Earrings, Branch Nose, Blackfist Cloak, Empress Gloves, and VSS. Heh.
I think playing without duped gear is fine, but it annoys me when people run around claiming that they never use duped gear and their equips are 100% legit, when they are using perfect gloves/weapons which are not possible to make without duped scrolls.

[quote=Dayias]I know duped gear costs more than clean empress, I'm just saying duped gear is a better option for funded people. I already said earlier that unfunded people can get about ~40% main stat for the same cost it would take to get full empress (Including cape/weapon). Personally, I prefer to buy things that are precubed... I've wasted over $100 on my bow and it's still epic. I don't understand why some people try so hard to use "legit" gear when duped gear just saves a lot of time and money.
I'm not gonna lie, nearly all my equips are products of dupes (Gloves scrolled with GM scrolls, bow scrolled with protect scrolls, etc) or actual duped items themselves. It's just significantly cheaper that way.
One of my friends is a marksman with a range of about ~110k... mine's about ~105k. We did the math, and it turns out he's spent nearly 5x the amount of money as I have on his equips because he doesn't use any duped items... but he does have perfect gloves which can only be made with duped GM/50%/White scrolls.
There's not really any benefit to just using "legit" gear because of that significant cost increase due to cubing/scrolling yourself. Besides, nearly 90% of all mesos are duped, all GM scrolls/50% scrolls/white scrolls/protect scrolls/all scrolls worth using are duped, and a lot of the expensive crafting materials are duped. To truly play legit, you'd have to never go into the FM and make all your mesos by yourself and scroll your gear from things you pick up/events. I guess that would be an interesting way to play this game at first, but I think it would get old very quickly seeing as you would be so much weaker and have a hard time grinding at LHC.[/quote]

u got a point about saving time and money
but some ppl prefer non-duped equips so they can look different (most ppl i see use the same duped gears)
for me, i dont use duped equips cuz i like to fund myself challenging way instead of put in some real money and get a hackerchief without doing anything except getting real money (another reason is i play as a non-nx player)

[quote=TangleViper]Some people prefer to use legit gear. I know I do.

And full Empress kinda costs less than a single duped item? In Windia the archer pieces are 10-15mil each, Bow is 200-400m and the only problem is the cape, going for 1b+. I haven't seen any "proper" duped stuff going for less than max.[/quote]
I know duped gear costs more than clean empress, I'm just saying duped gear is a better option for funded people. I already said earlier that unfunded people can get about ~40% main stat for the same cost it would take to get full empress (Including cape/weapon). Personally, I prefer to buy things that are precubed... I've wasted over $100 on my bow and it's still epic. I don't understand why some people try so hard to use "legit" gear when duped gear just saves a lot of time and money.
I'm not gonna lie, nearly all my equips are products of dupes (Gloves scrolled with GM scrolls, bow scrolled with protect scrolls, etc) or actual duped items themselves. It's just significantly cheaper that way.
One of my friends is a marksman with a range of about ~110k... mine's about ~105k. We did the math, and it turns out he's spent nearly 5x the amount of money as I have on his equips because he doesn't use any duped items... but he does have perfect gloves which can only be made with duped GM/50%/White scrolls.
There's not really any benefit to just using "legit" gear because of that significant cost increase due to cubing/scrolling yourself. Besides, nearly 90% of all mesos are duped, all GM scrolls/50% scrolls/white scrolls/protect scrolls/all scrolls worth using are duped, and a lot of the expensive crafting materials are duped. To truly play legit, you'd have to never go into the FM and make all your mesos by yourself and scroll your gear from things you pick up/events. I guess that would be an interesting way to play this game at first, but I think it would get old very quickly seeing as you would be so much weaker and have a hard time grinding at LHC.

@bowmushro0m: It's easier to just get duped gears if you have the funding. And if you don't have the funding for duped gears, you don't have the funding for the FULL empress. :C
Besides, empress equips usually don't come with potential. Duped gears do.

@Dayias: meh ._. getting 170 str on my sair was easy. and i didn't really fund it much at all. but overall, you should aim for the empress set xD you could get the whole thing with around 1.9bil (1.4 for cape, 100 for the rest, 400mil for the bow)

@bowmushro0m:
Yes well, like I said, the FULL Empress set is dumb. The hat/gloves beat anything else outright for the price you pay and the stats you get, if you can equip them.

@Dayias:
i had a 9% dex +1allskills reverse rapido..a clean empress hat just barely increased my range. empress beats anything else out, especially with low funding. you can get the full set without the cape and bow for under 100mil. and there are plenty of guides for getting up to that much now, my sair looted 3mil just from training in ludi. merching is hard but not impossible. honestly, i'd say merch your way up to 100mil via crafting/looting (there's tons of guides to do it. i've done it myself) it takes a long time, but then cwkpq a lot with friends. all it takes is one lucky break to get a bfc (if you go twice a day you'll eventually get one) from that point on, use maybe 50mil to scroll a nisrock. 50mil is a stretch btw, with 50mil i bought 21 bfa scrolls, 15 EE's, and 3 nisrocks. scrolled all 3. EE'd one at a time until i only had one bow left. used it for my wind archer.

@bowmushro0m @Ecoutie
My girlfriend scrolls her equips like that, even to this day, because she's just too broke to scroll for attack. All she did was use event scrolls, which is what all the kids without funding do these days.
I think people don't realize how expensive potential is to new players. When a lot of people are asking, "How do I increase my damage range?", they're working with little to nothing. I mean, buying 9% earrings is out of the question. They want to know what things to craft, what events to do, and what quests can they complete to give them a little extra edge with their equips.
These days on basil, everyone is suggesting things like, "Oh, just buy some 3-9% earrings, then go for full empress." Do they even realize how dumb of an option full empress is?
Getting 170 of your secondary stat is just a really hard thing to do for new players. Not to mention that the full set alone costs over max mesos and doesn't really benefit weaker players because they don't need that 30% boss that much. They're just trying to level up, not kill Horntail.
With the amount of funding it would take to buy full empress, I'm sure I could pull out ~40% main stat, or more, on any character. That beats full empress hands down. In fact, you can pull of more than 20% main stat with under 50m funding easily, it just takes some time.

[quote=Dayias]Equips from an event earlier this year. Wow, so far back in time.[/quote]

Maybe he was referring to the way they are scrolled.

OMG NINJA'D.

[quote=Dayias]Equips from an event earlier this year. Wow, so far back in time.[/quote]

don't be such a derp -.-' look at how they're scrolled. each one is for 10+ dex. not for atk. not focused on potential. it makes me feel like she should have been pro back when she played, because she fully utilized everything she was given upon return to the game

[quote=bowmushro0m]oh my god i love your stuff xD blast from the past[/quote]
Equips from an event earlier this year. Wow, so far back in time.

oh my god i love your stuff xD blast from the past

Are there any types that are commonly used I can search the FM for with that NX owl?

You can buy %dex earrings (3-9%) easily and replace your current earrings.