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[quote=Emplex]How do people get bored of the most ridiculously smooth animation cancelling in the game?[/quote]

Maybe cause our attacking skills are horrid, I love the idea behind shade, although it is so dang boring to play. TB's are a lot more fun, and if I could manage handling one, I'd move over there lol.

[quote=Graystoke]What range could you 1hko at sdh? Unbuffed? Also what about hard gollux?[/quote]

for cannoneer? should be able to 1hko sdh with a spell traced+ee'd cannon honestly. gear is extremely cheap nowadays. buckshot is amazing.
hard gollux is super easy for us, just monkey militia the bottom and slowly chip away at him. you can do it with minimal gear, it will just take the entire 28 minutes haha.

How do people get bored of the most ridiculously smooth animation cancelling in the game?

[quote=Momijii]Shade has 100% stance. You also underestimate Soul Split, but overall I think you're in the right direction.[/quote]

Ah thought it was 90% thanks for the info. I forgot about soul split as well thanks .

@vacillant Yes our combo stance is glitched. It has been glitched since the star force update.

@Killinme we have a stance glitch?

[quote=Killinme]In terms of bossing Shades have the upper hand if you look at how much easier it is to do so. They have bind and 90% stance. Damage wise TBs have the upper hand. TBs require a lot of control to boss with but their skills are also situation based i.e Stationary vs Mobile boss. If nexon fixes our stance glitch then we have 100% stance. If its a stationary boss TBs will win hands down vs Shade but if it is a mobile boss unless that TB has excellent control then shade will win with no problems. I say unless the TB has excellent control because it can go either way seeing that the Annihilate + Lightning Punch combo allows us to do more HPS than shade due to its attack speed. But I would say that shade is more well balanced for bossing if you can't control Tb well.[/quote]
Shade has 100% stance. You also underestimate Soul Split, but overall I think you're in the right direction.

In terms of bossing Shades have the upper hand if you look at how much easier it is to do so. They have bind and 90% stance. Damage wise TBs have the upper hand. TBs require a lot of control to boss with but their skills are also situation based i.e Stationary vs Mobile boss. If nexon fixes our stance glitch then we have 100% stance. If its a stationary boss TBs will win hands down vs Shade but if it is a mobile boss unless that TB has excellent control then shade will win with no problems. I say unless the TB has excellent control because it can go either way seeing that the Annihilate + Lightning Punch combo allows us to do more HPS than shade due to its attack speed. But I would say that shade is more well balanced for bossing if you can't control Tb well.

Eunwol is indeed boring

Eunwol but TBs are more fun and Eunwol is more boring

[quote=yearn]TS mentioned knuckle users only[/quote]

What range could you 1hko at sdh? Unbuffed? Also what about hard gollux?

[quote=Graystoke]The above is correct. TBs against a non moving boss should/would be be the higher dps. But their skills have long delays before you can move, so bosses that move or require you to move are harder to kill. I'm surprised you didn't mention cannoneers.[/quote]

TS mentioned knuckle users only

The above is correct. TBs against a non moving boss should/would be be the higher dps. But their skills have long delays before you can move, so bosses that move or require you to move are harder to kill. I'm surprised you didn't mention cannoneers.

In theory:
1. Thunder breaker
2. Shade (Eunwol)
3. Buccaneer

In reality:
1. Shade (Eunwol)
2. Thunder Breaker
3. Buccaneer