Video

As suggested, in LHC with ropes. Fully equipped this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrmOBRAO0Fg

February 20, 2012

41 Comments • Newest first

ericchung93

great control. i'm always looking to improve killing efficiency so that i can help leech my guild
i always have trouble timing gust dive when i'm jumping off platforms to hit the bottom floor mobs too
btw if you're looking for constructive criticism, dont post to basil. that's just asking for gray hairs.

Reply June 11, 2012
starlight4x

Not trying to be negative, but you said you bought your dbg clean, so how did you successfully used the 20% pink scrolls without breaking you weapon (Without duping)?0.0

Reply March 7, 2012
StellarAshes

[quote=johny2toes]This isn't really a control vid... it's just a show off vid.

Is it an effective showing of avoiding damage? No because it's not something you're at risk of being hit from since you kill it in 2~3 hits.
Is it an effective showing of training? No. Nobody in their right mind would use Leaf Tornado on just 2 monsters it's just stupid and a waste of time.
With those 2 taken away... it's nothing but a show off vid.

But either way... nice vid even though you have illegitimate items.[/quote]

Illegitimate? I'm sure you gached all the WS to make your DBG, and you 30% GFA'd your Empress gloves that you got with a run, and your shoes don't have any attack on it.

I'm about as illegitimate as you and the rest of the Maple who buys from and sells to a sadly hacker-run economy.

If you bothered reading any comments before you hastily jump to the conclusions, I did say that it could use improvements. In retrospect, I do agree with you that using Leaf Tornado there was pretty stupid. But I would love to see you put up a video of the same length that shows NO control errors whatsoever (and not just spamming Rising Rush and Moonsault - a trained monkey could do that). And if you think this is purely showoff, please do look at my Basil ID for my other control video and explain to me how that's a show off too when I took off every equip.

Reply February 28, 2012
johny2toes

This isn't really a control vid... it's just a show off vid.

Is it an effective showing of avoiding damage? No because it's not something you're at risk of being hit from since you kill it in 2~3 hits.
Is it an effective showing of training? No. Nobody in their right mind would use Leaf Tornado on just 2 monsters it's just stupid and a waste of time.
With those 2 taken away... it's nothing but a show off vid.

But either way... nice vid even though you have illegitimate items.

Reply February 25, 2012
marimois

idk whats the big deal about someone else control of their character...

Reply February 25, 2012
DevilZen

Who cares if this person dupes. "Ruins the game's economy."
Go play with the stock market for Christ's sake.
It's a flucking game.

Reply February 23, 2012
Pwnoqraphy

Definition of KS machine haha

Reply February 23, 2012
StellarAshes

[quote=WouterVr]I am sorry for making you think I am a hater. I did not mean to. The jumping + falling I was referring to was the 2 falls at around 28 seconds into the clip. Although I am not sure about the unintentional fall on one because it ended up too nicely. Other mistakes might be the one you make with the rope around 1:30. I do this all the time though so I should not be the one who is saying this.. I am not saying your control sucks, I am just saying it is not that good; it is just not perfect. At some point you just do too much damage. You will get lazy because you do. Sometimes it is better to waste a small amount of time to create a good mob, which will give you more time left in the end. Try not to jump away before you actually kill the monster, you actually got lucky a couple of times in this video. < hard with this damage <
Anyways, allways remember just to make fun in the game.. Dont get mad at people for doing what what you thought I was doing. Ive been there, done that, and it does not make it more fun for anyone.
BTW: I like the way how you tried not to ks your party.[/quote]

At 28 seconds, the >intent< was to walk off the top platform, do a leaf tornado while falling to kill the one behind me at the top platform, because I knew its HP was somewhat low. And then I could walk off from the mid platform to the right to clear the bottom. Of course that didn't happen because of lag/my crap timing, so I had to jump again to kill it.

At my range on a non-glitched map, there really isn't much point of making a mob, and I think that it's lower DPM to create mobs. I don't think it's luck that I killed a few mobs before I jumped away, though. RoI shoots so fast that you will usually overkill a monster if you just stood there and hold it down. I have a general idea on how many hits/seconds it takes me to kill a bearwolf, and I generally leave after that time.

But you are right about the fun part, I guess it is a fault of my own to take it a bit too seriously.

Edit: yes the 1:30 rope is very much a mistake, so is the early activation of gust dive at ~1:20, and I didn't see the far right BW at ~1:01.

Reply February 23, 2012 - edited
PitchBlack0

Great video, the control you display in the video is better than anything I've seen in other mercedes vids. Also 40k hp? O_0

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
darkspawn980

[quote=StellarAshes]I don't really like to do equip videos, sorry. There are many reasons, just by reading this thread I'm sure you can see quite a few.

ShinkuDragon has mentioned that there will be full resets again in Justice patch; while I haven't confirmed this myself, he is a reliable source. If Nexon has another AP reset sale at that time, you will be able to use this method to wash (though keep in mind that it will be fairly expensive).[/quote]

i said there might be, but asking around in SP they told me that KMS didn't introduce any AP resets in the justice shop, so i wouldn't hold my breath.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
suomirox123

@stellarashes Right at the beggining and at ~1:20 you could've used moonsault leaf combo.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=dShop]Hey biddie thank you for explaining the method in such detail for us, I am just wondering if you can do a Gear Videos for us soon because i am very curious about your gears's dex % & range that you have to dish out that kind of damage. It will be a big motivation for me to work upon being a successful mercedes like you! I appreciate every videos that you have made so far and I will continue to watch your clips because they do inspire me a lot! [/quote]
I don't really like to do equip videos, sorry. There are many reasons, just by reading this thread I'm sure you can see quite a few.

[quote=trupwr]Thanks for the reply! always thought hp washing weren't doable anymore.
Ah~ I see. Sad to hear that it can't be done at the moment... if only I'd known sooner Hope there will be more chances in the near future. Thanks for the reply.[/quote]
ShinkuDragon has mentioned that there will be full resets again in Justice patch; while I haven't confirmed this myself, he is a reliable source. If Nexon has another AP reset sale at that time, you will be able to use this method to wash (though keep in mind that it will be fairly expensive).

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
trupwr

[quote=gimliofdurin]She made a thread about it

I'll try and find it and re edit my post

Edit: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2337637/2/#39252872[/quote]

Thanks for the reply! always thought hp washing weren't doable anymore.

[quote=StellarAshes]Refer to the link posted above. Do note, however, that you will have to buy the same # of AP resets as the total of the # of points you put in MP in step 2 and the points you put into HP in step 5. The more points you put in MP in step 2, the more MP you have and higher future wash potential (since after you do this, assuming you have 4 secondary stat, you will be able to use AP reset to wash directly from MP to HP). The more points you put in step 5, the more HP you will have. It is ideally better to put points into HP in step 5 than to use AP reset directly from MP to HP, because in the former case you get 16-20 per point, as opposed to a flat constant 16 in the latter.

However, due to AP reset sale has already ended and no effective way of getting more full resets, this method isn't very realistic at the moment.[/quote]

Ah~ I see. Sad to hear that it can't be done at the moment... if only I'd known sooner Hope there will be more chances in the near future. Thanks for the reply.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
webbmax99

wow alot of negative comments only cause were all Jelly! love the damage wow well done! truly a pro =)

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=trupwr]I'd like to know your method to get the hp you have care to share in detail? [/quote]

Refer to the link posted above. Do note, however, that you will have to buy the same # of AP resets as the total of the # of points you put in MP in step 2 and the points you put into HP in step 5. The more points you put in MP in step 2, the more MP you have and higher future wash potential (since after you do this, assuming you have 4 secondary stat, you will be able to use AP reset to wash directly from MP to HP). The more points you put in step 5, the more HP you will have. It is ideally better to put points into HP in step 5 than to use AP reset directly from MP to HP, because in the former case you get 16-20 per point, as opposed to a flat constant 16 in the latter.

However, due to AP reset sale has already ended and no effective way of getting more full resets, this method isn't very realistic at the moment.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
trupwr

I'd like to know your method to get the hp you have care to share in detail?

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=Wealths]Oh so double washing still works, I'll keep that in mind when I make a phantom c:

Nexon won't be deleting the duped equips.
Though waiting it out would be a good idea.
Only because dupers are slowly putting up higher and higher ATK Masks and earings, shoes, ect[/quote]

I wouldn't be upgrading my shoes anyway as I have a scrolled+cubed empress shoes and I'm wearing the full set for the atk + bossing bonus.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=Oscuuz]I've been watching your videos for quite a while now, and I seem to be more and more impressed every single time you upload a new video - It's amazing how you're, well, level 200, do have a close-to-impossible attack range, and yet you seem very friendly and approachable (Like how you reply to each comment on your videos and stuff).

To all the people saying that your control isn't good: He (or she? :o) uses RI-Jump attack perfectly even after Stunning Strikes (IIRC) plus those flash jumps combined with climbing ropes combined with all those attacks inbetween - Godly.

All of you, you do that too, I give you a cookie.

Waiting for you to solo Pink Bean or Chaos HT... Good luck.

Also LF> Next video already. x)

@Wealths Yes it is. Don't have the time right now to explain, but it was quite easy if you had the dedication to collect legendary coins for 2 full AP resets. Long story short; INT-> MP, MP->HP, INT-> DEX (Or whatever your main stat is).[/quote]
Thank you. PB solo will happen eventually, I just haven't had a good time to film it yet. I kind of want to do a test run first before I turn on Fraps because it does lag me somewhat. I don't know about CHT as there is really no benefit for me and it honestly isn't that much different from normal HT other than the amount of stuns and just that I have to be extra careful on the left head as DR will instantly kill me while using RoI.

[quote=Wealths]So the int pool thing still works?
Cause I've been told that int no longer adds on extra mp.
Mmh guess I'll try this out myself [/quote]
Long story short, INT no longer affects MP on level up but still affects MP when you put your own AP into MP.

[quote=Kizo]What is the best method for a low funded merc to solo a whole bw map?[/quote]
Depends on if you're talking about 4 or 5. On map 5, at the top, you can rush the mid platform to one side, and the connecting top platform to the same side so you can stand in the middle platform and you could repeatedly use rising rush + moonsault. If you want more damage, add in leaf tornado after moonsault. If you don't want to get hit, simply continue using rush after moonsault (iframes will make you un-hittable). The bottom is pretty straight forward: rush them all together then either use the aforementioned invincible way or jump and double-leaf tornado. Map 4 is just 3 flat platforms so refer to the bottom of map 5. These are just my opinions though and I'm in no way claiming that it's the best method.

[quote=Wealths]Are you also using a 16att branch?[/quote]
No, my branch nose is clean at the moment.
As for upgrading to masks, I'll see what Nexon does.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
leannesama

[quote=Wealths]Why bother getting kenta or vip earrings, those suck lol.
And Vip earrings were mass duped, not like it's legit either.[/quote]

unless it's a nice % earring, no one really dupes clean ones lol.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
Kizo

[quote=Wealths]Should upgrade to 21att earrings and 30att mask
Are you also using a 16att branch?[/quote]
I don't think TS approves of those types of equips. Beside, she probably has a godly kenta's goggles & vip earrings.

Reply February 22, 2012 - edited
Kizo

[quote=StellarAshes]It's hard to ignore negativity when I am trying to respond to reasonable replies. And I know this sounds implausible but I posted these "control"-titled videos not for damage.

As do I. That's why, on multiple occasions, I've asked people I train with whether they want me to skip their mobs. But so far I've gotten an unanimous "no" because it was, apparently, better EXP for them if I kill their mobs.

I do use moonsault on mobs. There is no reason for me to follow it up with tornado after because tornado makes it slower to land (and therefore to FJ to the next mob) and I don't need it to kill bearwolves. If you see my other control video where I took off the equips, I did use tornado extensively after moonsault.

Edit: well, you may be right. Do you have a specific time in the video where you think I would've been better off with moonsault + tornado?[/quote]
What is the best method for a low funded merc to solo a whole bw map?

[quote=StellarAshes]Because in your opinion, I'm guilty until proven innocent. I've had this medal since the first hot time in which you could get it, and I bought it about 3 days after the event (I've worn it in my earlier videos on my NL). Is it duped that I bought? How would I know? All I know was that I paid 15b for it back in the day. And I also bought this DBG (clean) shortly after Scania received our hot time boxes from a guy named capitaleyez (I'm not sure if his name is an i or L) for a BFC, 14 atk immortal belt, some GM scrolls, and max meso (and he didn't want to sell it to me until I talked to him for more than an hour). At this point in the game, I will buy items if it's not obviously hacked (38 atk shoes, craven/ST springs to mind), such as WS, GM scrolls, etc.

If this were duped, as you so zealously claim, I don't see why I'm still only one out of three people in Scania to have it. And I don't see why it would help to provide a SS for it, as you would just continue to claim that it's still duped.

Better control still improves exp/hour, no matter how good or bad your damage is.[/quote]
Props to you for not using att rac masks or att earrings. I still use ws even though they're not as bad as those mts ones.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
Oscuuz

I've been watching your videos for quite a while now, and I seem to be more and more impressed every single time you upload a new video - It's amazing how you're, well, level 200, do have a close-to-impossible attack range, and yet you seem very friendly and approachable (Like how you reply to each comment on your videos and stuff).

To all the people saying that your control isn't good: He (or she? :o) uses RI-Jump attack perfectly even after Stunning Strikes (IIRC) plus those flash jumps combined with climbing ropes combined with all those attacks inbetween - Godly.

All of you, you do that too, I give you a cookie.

Waiting for you to solo Pink Bean or Chaos HT... Good luck.

Also LF> Next video already. x)

@Wealths Yes it is. Don't have the time right now to explain, but it was quite easy if you had the dedication to collect legendary coins for 2 full AP resets. Long story short; INT-> MP, MP->HP, INT-> DEX (Or whatever your main stat is).

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
reedpipes

holy s h i z I never knew you were that strong...

and I thought it was pretty cool that you could jump while doing ishtar's ring

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
Amped

Nice damage and all, but that's a tad easy to pull off since everything dies so quickly.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=WouterVr]This is not that good at all.. All you do is jump and use some skills, occassionally falling of a ledge because of stupid useless jumping.[/quote]

I will reply with one of my earlier posts.

"I just wish people would point out HOW it was bad rather than 'oh, you suck'"

Not to say that I didn't do any useless jumping, because I know I did a couple of times. But advice to improve instead of just telling me I'm bad would help.

Edit: And I don't think I fell off a ledge because of "stupid useless jumping". Would you be so kind as to point to the time of that happening?

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=intrinsic]^ Ignoring all the people who post negative and nonconstructive comments would be the best way to go about it .

OT though, I do like the quick transition between mobs and no doubt, nice damage . Sort of makes me want to train up my mercedes.[/quote]
It's hard to ignore negativity when I am trying to respond to reasonable replies. And I know this sounds implausible but I posted these "control"-titled videos not for damage.

[quote=trainwreckxxx]I feel sorry for the Aran...lol
You might as well just let them leech off of you and solo the whole map. .__.

OT: Pretty nice control. C:[/quote]
As do I. That's why, on multiple occasions, I've asked people I train with whether they want me to skip their mobs. But so far I've gotten an unanimous "no" because it was, apparently, better EXP for them if I kill their mobs.

[quote=suomirox123]I dont get it why you didnt use the Rolling Moonsault + Leaf Tornado combo. You couldve killed bottom mobs abit faster.[/quote]
I do use moonsault on mobs. There is no reason for me to follow it up with tornado after because tornado makes it slower to land (and therefore to FJ to the next mob) and I don't need it to kill bearwolves. If you see my other control video where I took off the equips, I did use tornado extensively after moonsault.

Edit: well, you may be right. Do you have a specific time in the video where you think I would've been better off with moonsault + tornado?

[quote=SimplyBrutal]all i asked was u to either say you brought a duped dualbowgun or provide a ss if it's legit. you claimed it was legit but provide no proof? if you have nothing to hide, show us a ss. that's all there is to it. why are you trying to make urself a victim here?

the longer you avoid this question the more people will think it is dupe. you even brought a lucky guy medal. are you saying its legit too?[/quote]
Because in your opinion, I'm guilty until proven innocent. I've had this medal since the first hot time in which you could get it, and I bought it about 3 days after the event (I've worn it in my earlier videos on my NL). Is it duped that I bought? How would I know? All I know was that I paid 15b for it back in the day. And I also bought this DBG (clean) shortly after Scania received our hot time boxes from a guy named capitaleyez (I'm not sure if his name is an i or L) for a BFC, 14 atk immortal belt, some GM scrolls, and max meso (and he didn't want to sell it to me until I talked to him for more than an hour). At this point in the game, I will buy items if it's not obviously hacked (38 atk shoes, craven/ST springs to mind), such as WS, GM scrolls, etc.

If this were duped, as you so zealously claim, I don't see why I'm still only one out of three people in Scania to have it. And I don't see why it would help to provide a SS for it, as you would just continue to claim that it's still duped.

[quote=FamousHokage]who needs control when you deal that kind of dmg[/quote]
Better control still improves exp/hour, no matter how good or bad your damage is.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
OmgItsMazz

How much did the Dual Bowguns cost you?

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
Skyenets

[quote=suomirox123]I dont get it why you didnt use the Rolling Moonsault + Leaf Tornado combo. You couldve killed bottom mobs abit faster.
OT: Pretty nice control and damage.[/quote]

Would have been a waste of time with her/his damage.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
suomirox123

I dont get it why you didnt use the Rolling Moonsault + Leaf Tornado combo. You couldve killed bottom mobs abit faster.
OT: Pretty nice control and damage.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
trainwreckxxx

I feel sorry for the Aran...lol
You might as well just let them leech off of you and solo the whole map. .__.

OT: Pretty nice control. C:

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=Oshawott]/FacePalm.
I wish that bowgun was duped! But no it isn't. It was from hot time...

However I have to agree with one of the first posters this vid doesn't show your control very well (not doubting you have control) but with that range you could use whatever skills you want on each mob and make it looked controlled because they die so fast.[/quote]

As I've posted before, to me, control meant maximum output of damage to mobs around the map given a certain range/equips (to maximize experience; and before people post "why would you need exp for a lvl 200", because I was helping people level). Admittedly, with that range, things die quickly. So in my case, I try to jump-shoot IoR as much as I possibly could to keep moving while dealing damage, so I can get to the next mob faster.

I never claimed that I have the best control ever, and, if you went to the youtube page for the video, I outright said that there were quite a few mistakes in the video. There are always places I could've improved on, I just wish people would point out HOW it was bad rather than "oh, you suck". The reason why I posted these control video was trying to get people to be more interested in Merc skill combinations and ways to improve how they can move around the map, but it seems like most of the responses I end up getting is just "duped" "your [sic] bad" "lol pizza". For example, in your HT video, you could Leaf Tornado up the platforms beside the arm instead of walking all the way to the rope to updraft, that way, you can deal a bit of damage going up from Leaf Tornado, and you don't have to wait for the fall time from updraft. This is the kind of comment I hoped to get, but in two control videos I've posted, I have yet to see anyone say such a thing.

I guess posting on Basil to try to get constructive criticism has become an oxymoronic thing to do.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
4znFTW

It doesn't look like you have much control although I see much worse </3

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
Oshawott

[quote=FrostyGun]Nice Nice Duped Bowgun[/quote]

/FacePalm.
I wish that bowgun was duped! But no it isn't. It was from hot time...

However I have to agree with one of the first posters this vid doesn't show your control very well (not doubting you have control) but with that range you could use whatever skills you want on each mob and make it looked controlled because they die so fast.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
FrostyGun

Nice Nice Duped Bowgun

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
StellarAshes

[quote=Valtorec]Actually not that good control. This only works for you because you kill everything in like 3 hits... real control is shown when you have no equips, and still manage to avoid dmg[/quote]
Avoid damage? I don't know about you but control to me is doing the maximum damage output you can given your equips, regardless of what your equips actually are.

If avoid was the only thing that mattered, old Shads would've only used BStep.

[quote=GodOfSparks]Wow so much critical. How much % critical you have? Like 95%? :O[/quote]
89% I think.

[quote=AdvanceCombo]she isn't even legit your controll is bad and it doesn't matter about your dmg becasue it's a hacked weapon you shouldn't even be level 200 quit just quit you ruin the game enough[/quote]
[quote=ChickenPredator]She dupes, and has a 272 attack +70 all stat lvl 140 dual bow, how isn't she godly ![/quote]
ASSUME = make an ASS out of U and ME.

[quote=OnePieced]Hey Iathas it's me Invincible xD and guys I doubt your control is better when using a mercedes so don't talk stuff about other people you can't do better yourself[/quote]
Um... Invincible? Sorry, I don't think I knew anyone with that IGN.

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
skate808

dmg range lol?

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
novomangle

Am I the only one just staring at his/her hp the entire time?

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
GodOfSparks

Wow so much critical. How much % critical you have? Like 95%? :O

Reply February 21, 2012 - edited
absolutex4

show off :[

Reply February 20, 2012 - edited
ToFurkie

[quote=Valtorec]Actually not that good control. This only works for you because you kill everything in like 3 hits... real control is shown when you have no equips, and still manage to avoid dmg[/quote]
Agreed, however, we can't discredit her just because she is godly. As a fellow Mercedes and slightly a damage shmut, I tip my transparent hat to you

Reply February 20, 2012 - edited
Valtorec

Actually not that good control. This only works for you because you kill everything in like 3 hits... real control is shown when you have no equips, and still manage to avoid dmg

Reply February 20, 2012 - edited