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Alright, thanks for the info. I was hoping to have 100% final att QQ

@batmanishere: No, Hidden Blade lasts 60 seconds regularly.
The dojo spawn time has 10-11 second spurts because of server latency which is also the cause of cooldown/duration of skills to sometimes become shorter or longer than the exact stated time.

[quote=OneRockGod]@SeeMeTwice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFWuMwWd05g
thats a kms vid of Asura. His lasts 13 seconds. 1st use of it starts at 0:17 and ends at 0:30. Asura is supposed to last 10 seconds. He obviously has +30% buff duration, therefore proving KMS hyper skills ARE effected by buff duration skills, and GMS IS changing it up.[/quote]

We've already been over this.
There is a slight server lag and it either boosts or shortens skill durations by a few seconds. This is why bosses do not spawn on dojo right as you enter. Same concept.

[b]KMS offical[/b] statements from [b]the day/patch[/b] that hypers were released said that buff duration does not affect hyper skills.
Look at the video in the thread I posted.
The Asura looks as if it goes for even longer than the Asura you posted, actually about 16 seconds which is huge, but the Hidden Blade only lasts 55-65 seconds. If he had enough buff duration to make Asura last 16 seconds, then HB should last for at least 90.
It's simply was not and is not meant to be. Buff duration never affected hypers.

[quote=OneRockGod]No. GMS is trying to be "special" and made hyper skills not be effected by buff duration skills. So Asura is also stuck at 10 seconds.

Your friend confirmed it works with Asura because in KMS, hyper skills ARE effected by buff duration skills. GMS wants to be "special though, so they made them not effected.

@oakmontowls: i dont see why this would happen. Gms already released hyper skills for the Heros and Novans. These arent effected by buff durations, so why would any others?[/quote]

Didn't I already prove you wrong in another thread about this? GMS is not trying to be "special", they're exactly the same in KMS as they will be in GMS.

Here we go:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=64838&highlight=buff+duration

I thought buff duration worked, but was proven wrong with factual evidence straight from KMS and GMS in this thread. Continue reading first and second page to get all of it. The specific quote below is from the second page.

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Hyper skills are not affected by buff duration or cooldown reduction.

[MENTION=4455]HellenzSin[/MENTION]; also tested Chance to Ignore Cooldown when she had it, a few times, 10ish if I recall, and it never activated for her hyper skills.[/quote]

[quote=taimega2007][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7NA8hh3ds]Long duration[/url]
In this one you can see hidden blade lasting far longer than 60 seconds. 76 seconds by youtube's count. Asura also lasts longer than 10 seconds, around 18 seconds.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bwb9-T1ESM][/url]
Same with this one. 15 second asura.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7NA8hh3ds]Regular duration[/url]
This one you can see asura lasting exactly 10 seconds. Which makes me believe that server lag doesn't have anything to do with it, it seems to debuff fine after 10 seconds.

I've heard a number of people say that buff duration does effect hypers in KMS. I'm quite confident they do.[/quote]
Before the whole hype about duration buffs and such it used to effect KMS hypers. But later on they removed that feature from the game and made them no longer effect. Thats why the newer videos you will see are not effected.

@oakmontowls: It was and that's why I thought it lasted longer, too. But I looked back on the videos and if you look at hidden blade, it lasted about the time it was supposed to. However if they had enough buff duration to make Asura last 6-10 seconds longer, hidden blade should have been constant.
Asura most likely lasted longer because of server lag or bad youtube timers.

@SeeMeTwice:
You sure cause i remember people saying that in some kms videos azura was lasting more that 10 seconds

[quote=OneRockGod]No. GMS is trying to be "special" and made hyper skills not be effected by buff duration skills. So Asura is also stuck at 10 seconds.

Your friend confirmed it works with Asura because in KMS, hyper skills ARE effected by buff duration skills. GMS wants to be "special though, so they made them not effected.

@oakmontowls: i dont see why this would happen. Gms already released hyper skills for the Heros and Novans. These arent effected by buff durations, so why would any others?[/quote]

KMS hypers are not affected by buff duration and never were.
GMS is not changing anything.

I'll post later with more info if anyone wants to dispute this.

[quote=oakmontowls]Well you never know nexon might screw up and when they are copying from kms let it be effected by that stuff[/quote]

Prays for this <3 <3 <3

Well you never know nexon might screw up and when they are copying from kms let it be effected by that stuff

No it doesn't get affected.
Nexon made it so that Hyper skills do not get affecting by "Buff duration" ability, card, etc.