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It makes no f*cking sense that's why.

I'm an apathetic atheist -- with that, I personally think it's annoying to argue about what exists and what doesn't and it's just a waste of effort and time to be spending on. In other words, I don't give a crap and I choose to believe in science. :L

Wow the level of stupidity and all these levels of intelligence fascinate me. I Believe in God, simple as that theres no point in trying to prove hes there or not because you are the only one who can judge that for yourself. If you don't think he exists he doesn't, if he does then he does.

[quote=epicslayerXD]I'm sorta atheist, lemme say my POV:

there is definitely at least 1 supreme being out there, but how did we define it so well, like in christianity or any other religion?

not sure if his makes me atheist what do you think?[/quote]

That would make you a deist. And I agree, it's completely irrational to think that, if a god even exists, we can determine the attributes of said god to the extent that many major religions assume to be able to do, given what would probably be severely limited human perception in regards to what these same people claim (for the most part) to be incorporeal. I'd be interested to know why you think at least one supreme being is necessary, however.

Because i'm Buddhist

Without going into too much detail, I see no evidence for the existence of God, nor is it evident that anything in the universe necessitates the existence of God, so therefore I see the most rational position as being disbelief in aforementioned God until sufficient evidence can be produced towards the existence of said God or the necessity of said God can be demonstrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olFchpRcgao

because it seems to me that there is absolutely no reason to believe in a god, especially the christian/jewish one that you're probably referring to

and the fabricated einstein quotes aren't and have never been convincing

[quote=Momo123]Found this on FB. Long Wall of Text. Remove this Mods if you think it's spam o.o

Gym leader : You are a Pokemon Trainer, aren't you, son ?... Pokemon Trainer : Yes, sir....Gym leader: So, you believe in Arceus ?...Pokemon Trainer : Absolutely, sir...Gym leader : Is Arceus good ?
Pokemon Trainer : Sure...Gym leader: Is Arceus all powerful ?...Pokemon Trainer : Yes...Gym leader: My brother died of Pokérus even though he prayed to Arceus to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But Arceus didn't. How is this Arceus good then? Hmm?...(Pokemon Trainer was silent.)....Gym leader: You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, young trainer. Is Arceus good?...Pokemon Trainer : Yes...Gym leader: Is Giratina good ?...Pokemon Trainer : No....Gym leader: Where does Giratina come from ?....Pokemon Trainer : From ... Arceus ...
Gym leader: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?...Pokemon Trainer : Yes....Gym leader: Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And Arceus did make everything. Correct?...
Pokemon Trainer : Yes....Gym leader: So who created evil ?...(Pokemon Trainer did not answer.)...Gym leader: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? The guy who posted this on FB? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?...Pokemon Trainer : Yes, sir....Gym leader: So, who created them ?...(Pokemon Trainer had no answer.)....Gym leader: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen Arceus?...Pokemon Trainer : No, sir....Gym leader: Tell us if you have ever heard your Arceus?...Pokemon Trainer : No , sir.
Gym leader: Have you ever felt your Arceus, tasted your Arceus, smelt your Arceus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Arceus for that matter?...Pokemon Trainer : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't....Gym leader: Yet you still believe in Him?...Pokemon Trainer : Yes.....Gym leader : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your Arceus doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?...Pokemon Trainer : Nothing. I only have my faith....Gym leader: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has....Pokemon Trainer : Gym leader, is there such a thing as heat?...Gym leader: Yes....Pokemon Trainer : And is there such a thing as cold?...Gym leader: Yes.....Pokemon Trainer : No, sir. There isn't...(The gym became very quiet with this turn of events.)...Pokemon Trainer : Sir, you can have lots of heat, ember, flame wheel, flamethrower, blast burn, overheat or no heat. But we don't have anything called sheer cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as sheer cold. Sheer cold is only an attack we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure sheer cold. Heat is pp. Sheer cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it....(There was pin-drop silence in the gym.)....Pokemon Trainer : What about darkness, Gym leader? Is there such a thing as darkness?...Gym leader: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?...Pokemon Trainer : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have flash, light screen and light clay. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?...Gym leader: So what is the point you are making, young man ?....Pokemon Trainer : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed....Gym leader: Flawed ? Can you explain how?....Pokemon Trainer : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good Arceus and a bad Arceus. You are viewing the concept of Arceus as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Gym leader, do you teach your Pokemon Trainers that their Pokemon hatched from an egg?
Gym leader: If you are referring to the egg popping up out of nowhere after placing two pokemon of different genders of the same egg group into the daycare, yes, of course, I do....Pokemon Trainer : Have you ever observed eggs with your own eyes, sir?
(The Gym leader shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)...Pokemon Trainer : Since no one has ever observed the process at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a Gym leader but a Pokefan?(The Gym was in uproar.)....Pokemon Trainer : Is there anyone in the Gym who has ever seen the Gym leader's brain? (The Gym broke out into laughter. )
Pokemon Trainer : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Gym leader's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Gym leader stared at the Pokemon Trainer, his face unfathomable.)....Gym leader: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Pokemon Trainer : That is it sir ... Exactly ! The link between man & Arceus is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S
By the way, that Pokemon Trainer was GARY MUTHAF'ING OAK![/quote]

Fixed it for you. Much more realistic now.

moses jesus muhammad
3 imaginative peoples

I believe to the inner power. That which for whatever reason exists amongst all men and all women across all cultures. How does the idea of a God, in every culture, form and set standards for their people to live? It must be something that is innate in our nature, that inside us all lives the ideas that were later manifested as Gods and Goddesses and even those who were/are malevolent.

Since this innate feature is in all humans, it would explain why a great mass were/are so easily persuaded by those who used it as a tool to gain power.
The stories they created were/are nice, and were/are useful for trying to instill good values amongst the people, though without them these values could still have been learned.

I mean, how come the stories that people told about the Greek and Roman Gods and Goddesses are today considered to be apart of mythology, but those stories in the Bible (which coincidentally reflect material from ancient Roman authors) are not considered to be apart of mythology?

Perhaps victory is written by the victors in this case, but I think I'll end my musings now and ponder things more.

Oopsie, thought this said "do".

Well, I don't go to church because it's sometimes corrupt if that counts.

[quote=FightTheWar]I do believe there is a God, mostly because it's convenient to do so.[/quote]

you ever hear of pascal's wager? it basically describes what you just said

you won't go to heaven believing in god just so you could go to heaven, doesn't work that way sorry

Because he is just as logical as santa

[url=http://i.imgur.com/07zj3.png]yeah[/url]

[quote=Momo123]Found this on FB. Long Wall of Text. Remove this Mods if you think it's spam o.o

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?... Student : Yes, sir....Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?...Student : Absolutely, sir...Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure...Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?...Student : Yes...Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?...(Student was silent.)....Professor: You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, young fella. Is GOD good?...Student : Yes...Professor: Is satan good ?...Student : No....Professor: Where does satan come from ?....Student : From ... GOD ...
Professor: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?...Student : Yes....Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?...
Student : Yes....Professor: So who created evil ?...(Student did not answer.)...Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?...Student : Yes, sir....Professor: So, who created them ?...(Student had no answer.)....Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?...Student : No, sir....Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?...Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?...Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't....Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?...Student : Yes.....Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?...Student : Nothing. I only have my faith....Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has....Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?...Professor: Yes....Student : And is there such a thing as cold?...Professor: Yes.....Student : No, sir. There isn't...(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)...Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it....(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)....Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?...Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?...Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?...Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?....Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed....Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?....Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do....Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)...Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?(The class was in uproar.)....Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)....Professor: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir ... Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.[/quote]

This is insanely fake and that was not Einstein. Research please.

Found this on FB. Long Wall of Text. Remove this Mods if you think it's spam o.o

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?... Student : Yes, sir....Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?...Student : Absolutely, sir...Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure...Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?...Student : Yes...Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?...(Student was silent.)....Professor: You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, young fella. Is GOD good?...Student : Yes...Professor: Is satan good ?...Student : No....Professor: Where does satan come from ?....Student : From ... GOD ...
Professor: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?...Student : Yes....Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?...
Student : Yes....Professor: So who created evil ?...(Student did not answer.)...Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?...Student : Yes, sir....Professor: So, who created them ?...(Student had no answer.)....Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?...Student : No, sir....Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?...Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?...Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't....Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?...Student : Yes.....Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?...Student : Nothing. I only have my faith....Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has....Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?...Professor: Yes....Student : And is there such a thing as cold?...Professor: Yes.....Student : No, sir. There isn't...(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)...Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it....(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)....Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?...Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?...Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?...Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?....Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed....Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?....Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do....Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)...Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?(The class was in uproar.)....Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)....Professor: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir ... Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

@Cbass50: yes!

I really do not believe that there is or has ever been god(s) of any form. Actually I'm [b]convinced[/b] that there is no god. Everyone is atheist for majority of gods, some just decide to go that one god further.

Daniel Everett, 57, a linguist in the Departmental Chair of Languages, Literatures and Cultures at Illinois State University, travelled to the Amazon in the 70s to bring the tribe "the joy of faith" only to discover that they were a deeply contented people. In fact they seemed far better contented than he was.

Tribe members asked the missionary whether he had seen or experienced any of the things he was telling them about. He had to admit that he hadn't; that he was simply passing things onto them that were told to him by people who hadn't seen or experienced them either.

The Pirahas "believed that the world was as it had always been, and that there was no supreme deity". Furthermore they had no creation myths in their culture. In short, here people were more than happy to live their lives "without God, religion or any political authority"

http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/11/08/how-an-amazonian-tribe-turned-a-missionary-into-an-atheist/

It didn't take me long to understand same as Piranhas myself. I was questioning religion about right when I learned that Santa was, in fact, fiction. I would bother my teacher with questions like, How does Genesis make sense if humans developed from the apes. First I realised that Christian god is not any more likely than the gods of other religions. Then I realised it's neither more likely to exist than ancient gods in human history. Finally I thought that, because it's highly unlikely that God exists, or if he exists; that I've chosen the right god to believe in.... I decided to not believe in any of these gods. It took me a while to fully reject faith in god. Now I've done it.

To me, God belongs into the museum just like all the other Gods. It's nice to have such a colorful history of superstitions, but there has also been a lot of bad done in the name of different gods. Humans have the natural need to speculate things and search for the truth. I could say, religions of today are the science of 1000-2000 BCE. Unlike science, however, Religions are dictating the truth, instead of searching the truth like science. BUT science is not a religion of atheists, being atheist simply means the disbelief in God. Atheism doesn't have any ideology that's common for all atheists.

I just prefer the scientific, always changing worldview instead of the old and outdated:
[i] "There was an eternal magic man that came from nowhere, living at the middle of nowhere, that swing his magic wand once, and *KAZAAM* magically made everything in 7 days, and he created US as his own image (yah... screw all the aliens in the universe. Shouldn't we feel special?). Then he also created Satan to test our faith, spreading scientific hoax all over. And he made a special list of things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! [b]But He loves you (well unless you are gay, transsexual or a snake... anyway).[/b] And he needs MONEY! (Wait he's omnipotent but can't handle money?)"[/i]

Finally two quotes:

[i]"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."[/i]
[b]-Albert Einstein[/b]

[i]"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."[/i]
[b]-Buddha[/b]

Wow, long post. But really... I think the thread should be: "Why do people BELIEVE in god?"

All people have are stories in a book, back up by "evidence"; a man comes down from the mountains with writings chiseled in stone, saying they're rules given to him by "god". Whether or not he was high out of his mind is left out.
Yet if anyone else did that kind of thing in this day and age, they'd get lynched for stupidity.
And then there's the whole deal with "miracles", despite anything of the sort ever happening these days. Assuming they did actually occur back then, there's no logical reason as to why they don't occur today, but any over-the-top worshipper will crawl through their religious loophole and deflect the question with something like "god only helps those in need" or "god works in mysterious ways".

There's more proof against a god existing than there is for it. People just don't like others thinking that way, as they think of god as some sort of all-loving idol to unite people together. But then you have religious wars where people kill hundreds and tousands of others just to prove that their fake idol is better than the other guys fake idol. Either one side is wrong, or both sides are wrong, but an all-loving god wouldn't allow that kind of crap to happen in the first place, so I'm putting my money on "both sides are wrong".
That is my "why".

Frankly, I don't care what people believe in, so long as they don't try to push their beliefs onto me, or condemn me for not thinking what they think. If people don't like the way I think about religion, then it's as simple as saying "I don't agree with your opinion, but you are entitled to believe whatever you want."

[quote=Seriazly]@FightTheWar:

I agree. Science is important and church/state should remain separate, so public schools supported by the government should definitely exclude any kind of religious curriculum.[/quote]

Maybe so, but they certainly shouldn't be 'anti-religious' by banning (privately funded) Christmas displays during the holiday season.

I'm going to answer this question, though I'm sure it will tick some people off. I do believe there is a God, mostly because it's convenient to do so. The idea of an afterlife certainly beats the idea of eternal oblivion, and anyone who actually wants oblivion must really hate their existence. That being said, I am firmly against any religious group that tries to block the advancement of science in the name of their 'beliefs', that should NOT be allowed. Schools should be allowed to teach evolution and stem cell research should be legal. Though on the other side, Christmas should be ok to celebrate in public and so should any other religious holiday. Seriously, who is offended by CHRISTMAS? Anyone who's offended by Christmas and tries to outlaw it in public is absolutely pathetic (no wonder they would prefer eternal oblivion).

religion in a nutshell http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank

@Cbass50: C: Anytime.

[quote=zoneflare2]@dimo I'd have to go with be just knowing human nature[/quote]

Exactly. People can make up all sorts of excuses for a deity not showing himself/herself, but they are just that, excuses. Just say that you don't know, is that so hard?

I don't believe him since there's no evidence that god existed.

[quote=ShMaiz3R]All Atheists have their different wording/reasoning whatsoever, but the same "proof that god exists?" question always comes in the end.

Let's assume you were in front of a King, would you commit a crime knowing you would be immediately killed by that King ? The answer is obviously no. The same applies to our relation with God. If God showed Himself to everyone in the world, nobody would dare to commit a sin. Now, what's the point of creating Hell when everyone would be forced to obey God and go to Heaven ?[/quote]

Actually lets take it a step further. Lets assume a deity appeared in the sky and showed himself/herself to everyone. Now all things being equal, this deity could be from any religious denomination so lets pick Odin from the Norse mythology. So Odin appears in the sky and tells everyone that true salvation can be obtained through him and him alone. Now looking at how religious people, in general, react to something that contradicts their belief, which is more likely?
A) Everyone converts to Norse
B) They claim that that was a trick (for example by the Devil in Christianity) and continue with their own beliefs.

[quote=ShMaiz3R]All Atheists have their different wording/reasoning whatsoever, but the same "proof that god exists?" question always comes in the end.

Let's assume you were in front of a King, would you commit a crime knowing you would be immediately killed by that King ? The answer is obviously no. The same applies to our relation with God. If God showed Himself to everyone in the world, nobody would dare to commit a sin. Now, what's the point of creating Hell when everyone would be forced to obey God and go to Heaven ?[/quote]
Kinda like laws would make jails obsolete. Because if people knew that breaking the law would result in punishment, they would never break the law.

I find religion to be a form of HEAVY manipulation...this is my MAIN reason

[quote=IAmDoomsday]What a remarkably condescending tone from someone who's chooses to remain on a long dead forum instead of being on Reddit like a real university student.
Are you proud that you're older than most of the children here?
You shouldn't.[/quote]

Sir, I don't see anything condescending about teaching my wisdom to the children of basil market. If it weren't for people like me the plague of ignorance would spread faster than wildfire in our beloved forum space.

All Atheists have their different wording/reasoning whatsoever, but the same "proof that god exists?" question always comes in the end.

Let's assume you were in front of a King, would you commit a crime knowing you would be immediately killed by that King ? The answer is obviously no. The same applies to our relation with God. If God showed Himself to everyone in the world, nobody would dare to commit a sin. Now, what's the point of creating Hell when everyone would be forced to obey God and go to Heaven ?

I guess I can say that I believe in him to a certain extent. I know what i'm saying is basically taboo, but I don't really believe in worship. The words just sound really weak to me. No need for the hostility in the comments, disgusted by that stuff.

[quote=crazybass]I am, especially when talking to all you high schoolers.

EDIT: I actually changed it to 500000 years of Art history to be more exact.[/quote]

What a remarkably condescending tone from someone who's chooses to remain on a long dead forum instead of being on Reddit like a real university student.
Are you proud that you're older than most of the children here?
You shouldn't.

Lol, so your busy posting on basilmarket instead of studying for your exam too? XD

Also, youtube has a good selection of discovery channel shows incase you get bored of whats on TV. <3

[quote=MrPebbles]@crazybass: Ok then Mr.Crazybass , Teach me the wonders of biology before my Biology Gateway tomorrow.[/quote]

What kind of biology? If its biology 20 from high school then I can try my best, but other than that and the Discovery channel I don't know how I can help you pass your exam....

I personally don't need any reason to believe in a God. I am happy the way I am.

[quote=MrPebbles]Didn't you study 7000 years of history? Aren't you considered a teacher to basilmarket?[/quote]

I am, especially when talking to all you high schoolers.

EDIT: I actually changed it to 500000 years of Art history to be more exact.

@Bunnii: Yea I think you were calling my dragon mount weird o.o but I was semi-af/king (lol filter) and was too lazy to respond. Haha but it's nice to meet you though ;D

[quote=MrPebbles]Yes i am, Mr.crazybass[/quote]

Its Crazybass, I don't have Mr. at the start of my name....

[quote=tapstapito]well i made this thread to answer i question i have. why some people dont believe in god.
this is not a thread for religious people to convince that there's a god
it is just to hear some atheist's answer to the question: why you dont believe in god?
no flame plz and thanks in advance[/quote]

a better question would be to ask your self "why do i assume everyone whos not athiest is monothiest" when you word it like that it means you think everyone who believes in gods or a god beleives in one god, and that they all believe in different representations of the same god you do. while its most likely that this is true of over 90% of all non-athiests, since this is true of all widely practiced religions, except buddism and hinduism, the former of which to my knowledge (which is practically nothing) doesnt have any gods, just spirituality, and the latter of which is definitly polytheist (a religion which believes in many gods).

the answer to your question is that none of the religions are completely without things that go against scientific facts. (for example, the christian beliefs say that the world is flat (until recently, when the catholic church just started saying that it was round without directly mentioning (and thereby admiting that they were wrong about something) the fact that they used to say it was flat), and that it is at the center of the solar system, and the universe(not too sure whether they came clean about this one) and both christian and jewish beliefs say that the world, as well as the rest of the universe, is about 5,000 years old (which is about 1/400 the amount scientists estimate in the case of the former, and 1/100,000,000 of the estimate (if i remember correctly) in the case of the latter). on the other hand, the greeks, and the romans believed in monsters that there are no evidence of, and the mayans belived in this snake thing with a dragon like head that there is also no evidence of, the bible also talks of giants, spawn of an angel and a mortal, which there is, again, no evidence of. logically speaking, since there is something against each of the religions credibility, then none of them can be completely true, and its logical to assume that if something's definitely not completely true and there is no evidence to assume that any of it is true then there is no reason to assume it is true at all. if you dont know if someone whos telling a story, is telling the truth in certain parts, or whether or not they are trustworthy, and know that some of it is false, that any of what they are telling is the truth

[quote=MrPebbles]By posts, i men't answers.[/quote]

You sure you did Mr.Pebbles?

@Bunnii: I can tell :V I am too I think :o and now that I see you're in Galicia, I think you've talked to me before, iirc.

[quote=SensuaLobster]@crazybass not sure how that would make @mrpebbles a hypocrite..since he never responded to the op. all he did was point out flamebait&note that a lot of basilers are giving vague answers as to why they do not believe in a higher power, but please do go into depth to why you believe he is a hypocrite[/quote]

How does him not answering the Op have anything to do with what were talking about? He made a vague post about being angry at people making vague posts, so he did something hypocritical.

@Bunnii: Oh dayum gurl. That.is awesome o.o

[quote=MrPebbles]@crazybass: I never answered his question...[/quote]

Im in the mood to be confronted for the adrenaline of debating, but that doesn't mean I will disrespect any ones beliefs. The reason I don't write anything more than that vague response is because I only want to let you know my stance on religion, not because I want to get into a lecture on the history of Christianity and the predominate religions before god was even a word.

@Bunnii: Definitely I'm bi, and currently taken with a guy so yea. Haha

@crazybass not sure how that would make @mrpebbles a hypocrite..since he never responded to the op. all he did was point out flamebait&note that a lot of basilers are giving vague answers as to why they do not believe in a higher power, but please do go into depth to why you believe he is a hypocrite

I'm a new-fledged Agnostic being and here is my opinion.
The existence of a God was brought up many centuries ago by people looking for an answer for unexplained phenomenon.
Hundreds of years later, science, technology, and etc. develop. We now can look deep into things into the molecular scale as to even realize how we are made.
However, God remains a popular public figure due to the public.

To even further explain why I do not believe in a 'God' relates to a story. If you've ever been told that you should be thankful to be where you are because someone else out there has it worse, you need to look at it from a more logical standpoint. For starters, that person out there could possibly be knee-deep in poverty and pathetic living conditions. Now what kind of God does that? Why does a 'kind' and 'caring' God continue to plunge his 'children' into a world he knows is destined to be a living torment?

So the next time you feel the need to thank God for having a home, remember that there are people out there who can't and wonder why the hell a God like that would play favorites k?

[quote=Bunnii]I believe in God but I'm not really religious about it.[/quote]

Same I'm Catholic but my beliefs and morals aren't limited to my religion alone, in fact I like reading about satanism as well. Lol I'm a bad Catholic

i'm indifferent towards god.