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Whats the problem about Kaiser?

From what I've seen, Kaiser has great mobbing, dps, and bossing. What downsides does it have? I've heard theres difficulty funding it, but what makes it so hard?

February 13, 2015

14 Comments • Newest first

TofuTyphoon

[quote=SacredX]this class gargled my wallet then spit it out, still gotta work on traits (lol) and links[/quote]
Ryude's... @_@
I saw that post on Reddit. Very nice.

Reply February 16, 2015 - edited
SacredX

[url=http://i.imgur.com/rmk0F2k.png]this class gargled my wallet then spit it out, still gotta work on traits (lol) and links[/url]
The only con (which isn't really a con) that I can see other than needing to fund it a lot more than other classes is for training purposes, sure blade burst grinding isn't horribad but it's lackluster compared to some other classes.

Reply February 16, 2015 - edited
moelesterson

I've been playing kaiser since day one but had quit for about a year about the time unlimited hit selling off everything at the time
i came back during the anniversary event and that's where most of my gear comes from. I do have multiple computers so i was able to farm pretty effectively.

Using unique pots from attendance i was able to unique all my items, Besides having to buy bonus pot cubes (which is why my bonus on sword is epic atm) I have not cubed any of my items with NX
I crafted cubes and got all my gear to 12-15%str atm i only have 15k str total.

you're probably right about the difference in market prices between worlds, I've yet to buy a no boom scroll over 1.5b and the price of 4% nebs is still crazy over here so i havent really nebbed any of my items.

My Kaiser is able to boss efficiently and making profit is fairly easy making upgading smooth. I have a large amount of room to upgrade my gear as nothing on him is perfect, which is honestly something I love about it I mean what fun would the game be if i had no reason to continue to work on items?

your worlds economy does seem harsh but the only thing im trying to stress is a kaiser doesnt need to be hitting cap to be a viable class to play to fund oneself.

heres a SS of my stat window as CherryTigers wanted to see it aswell

http://i60.tinypic.com/29nz5ls.jpg

Reply February 15, 2015 - edited
TofuTyphoon

It's really impressive that you're that strong with only <400b worth of funding. How did you go about it? Did you buy premade gear or did you scroll/cube yourself? Have you transposed Tyrants into Sweet water? How long had you been working on your Kaiser? Have you supplemented yourself with NX? I'm very curious because I started my Kaiser from scratch last August and I'm not that much stronger than you, but I've spent a lot more than 400b+NX cubing and scrolling all my own stuff.

Maybe it's server price differences. SE nebs are like 6.5b and No booms are >5b here, but according to a site I'm not allowed to mention, your server has them for 300m and >1b respectively. But that other gentleman's server (Scania) is also fairly cheaper than YMCK as well.

Reply February 15, 2015 - edited
moelesterson

[quote=TofuTyphoon]I assume you are excluding Dorothy, but you can solo everything else like Hard Magnus and Chaos Vellum? How much are you hitting a line untransfigured clean and buffed?[/quote]


Assuming I could reach Dorothy, im fairly sure I could kill her as from what I understand she doesn't have physical resist?
ATM I'm capping on non resistant bosses. I'm hitting mid 20s on magnus and till the pot is fixed on my sword my Kaiser can only vellum
With a dawn warrior mule letting me hit about 20mil on him.

I don't want people to get the wrong idea and think I'm bragging or something
I just wanna show you can boss on a Kaiser without what seems to be the majority of peoples assumption
That you need to sell your house to fund a Kaiser

Reply February 15, 2015 - edited
TofuTyphoon

[quote=moelesterson]It shouldn't cost anywhere near that much to hit 30mils on non physical resistant bosses, gear in maple
Is so standardized the only difference in funding is how lucky you are with pot.
Yes you need less funding on some classes compared to others to hit cap damage but I've never understood
Why people assume cap damage means overall better esp when comparing overall DPM.
Example: I'm not a capping Kaiser yet I can kill every boss in maple and I've spent no where near 1 trillion mesos
I don't even think I've spent 400b[/quote]

I assume you are excluding Dorothy, but you can solo everything else like Hard Magnus and Chaos Vellum? How much are you hitting a line untransfigured clean and buffed?

Reply February 15, 2015 - edited
RobbieYO

[quote=moelesterson]I'm hoping that's a sarcastic comment... It's hard to tell online.[/quote]

Nah i was serious. Mesos are really inflated lately. Its anywhere from 700b to 1 trill lol
My secondary and emblem seriously sucks though and that dmg i said is non final form damage

Reply February 15, 2015 - edited
TheKingslayer

Funding kaiser isnt hard. People say that because kaiser takes a lot of funding to cap but u really dont have to be capping on kaiser to be strong.. thats what they fail to see.

Kaiser hits so fast that if you're only hitting 30m per line you still out-damaging A LOT of other maple story classes out there who are capping with 50m lines. Once you hitting 40m lines, u pretty much have no equal (except cappin shad) ..by 50m ur the strongest class in the game (except cappin shad).

Besides wouldnt u want a class thats hard to cap? Wouldnt you want to enjoy your funding journey? Instead of just throwing 200b on a char and capping already? Especially on a class like kaiser who have so much potential with the lines and speed of their attack, spending the time and money is actually worth if because of how so damn strong you can become.

Reply February 14, 2015 - edited
moelesterson

[quote=TofuTyphoon]TBH, that does sound about right. If he's talking about Final Form...[/quote]
It shouldn't cost anywhere near that much to hit 30mils on non physical resistant bosses, gear in maple
Is so standardized the only difference in funding is how lucky you are with pot.
Yes you need less funding on some classes compared to others to hit cap damage but I've never understood
Why people assume cap damage means overall better esp when comparing overall DPM.
Example: I'm not a capping Kaiser yet I can kill every boss in maple and I've spent no where near 1 trillion mesos
I don't even think I've spent 400b

Reply February 14, 2015 - edited
TofuTyphoon

[quote=moelesterson]I'm hoping that's a sarcastic comment... It's hard to tell online.[/quote]

TBH, that does sound about right. If he's talking about Final Form...

Reply February 14, 2015 - edited
moelesterson

[quote=RobbieYO]I spent around 1 trillion mesos and only hit 30 mills on non defensive bosses lol[/quote]

I'm hoping that's a sarcastic comment... It's hard to tell online.

Reply February 14, 2015 - edited
RobbieYO

I spent around 1 trillion mesos and only hit 30 mills on non defensive bosses lol

Reply February 14, 2015 - edited
leopard16

its just the amount of funding it takes.
300b on fp with ~200% boss = caps on myst eruption (no infinity)
300b on kaiser with ~200% boss = no where close

Reply February 13, 2015 - edited
Mobbo

You just said it pretty much. Halfway through funding a Kaiser you could cap on another class. It's hard to stay motivated when it takes so much time and money to achieve what others do quite readily.

Reply February 13, 2015 - edited