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[quote=KoreanBoy214]The revamp is coming on the 9th, it will come and soon. Just wait.[/quote]

It's the 10th, you were saying?

What i'm referring to is the people who make a pirate,get it to level 20 and start ranting off about revamp... I believe u shud make what ever char u want.But its the dumb kids who tbink they so smart and tell you what to do that ticks me off. If ur under level 30 don't even try to act smart

Who the hell cares if you're Pre bb or not. Only numbers speak in this game. Silly old school pirate "pride".

[quote=snowboy8]wonder if phantom can steel battle ship or super transform.....[/quote]

Iron think so...

[quote=cool123ter]Can someone help me know how sairs play post revamp i might be interested starting my sair as a second main[/quote]
You can see vids as well as active discussions related to post revamp playstyle skills and damage comparison [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2294546/30/Corsair_Revamp_Compilation_and_Opinions_Thread.html]here.[/url] Credits to their respective contributors.

@TehNiceGuy: There is no difference other than the usual influx of snobs that look for damage and start bringing down the reputation of classes. You're always welcome into the pirate community, regardless of your job.

Can someone help me know how sairs play post revamp i might be interested starting my sair as a second main

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]@ameer17: I honestly would not mind Jett if they made a few changes to him. The fact that the link skill is just a money making system is really dumb which kind of killed it for me with Jett. Another is how they decided to combined the skills. Honestly if it's suppose to be a mix of bucc/sair, I want a playing style that reflexes that. The main problem for me is that it's a revamped corsair with just buffs from buccaneers (clarity, critical skill in 4th job, buccaneer's endurance skill). There isn't any buccaneer moves that you use once hit 3rd job except for their copy of fist which gets replaced by rapid fire. Jett wouldn't be a bad addition to the pirate jobs if they made the playing style reflex that it's just a fusion of buccaneer and corsair with a mix range and melee instead of just making a weaker sair with a few buffs from buccaneers.

@Alienstock: It's not really a positive attitude , it's more of just I have accepted our fate. Pirates will always be the butt of the joke for nexon. We just need to accept it and move on. As much as I would love all these glitches to be fixed asap since that's what a company should do, but we all know it's not going to happen. There's no point in complaining about it because we all know how it's going to end with them just leaving us this way until the revamp.
I'm honestly just tired of the constant complaining from both sides. We know the revamp is coming this summer, we know we are getting the KMS version of it, we know how nexon treats us and what their mostly likely action is. All we can do is just report to them the number of glitches there are (which has already been reported) and pretend that they are working to fix it when in reality just waiting until revamp. There's no need to spam the website constantly like we have for months. At the same time the other side needs to understand that pirates is just a joke to nexon with no other class being shafted by nexon as much as us and we have a right to complain, but we do not have the right to complain to this extent.[/quote]

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2438251/0/Buccaneers_are_the_worst_class_in_the_game.html Im tired of seeing threads like these -__-

@ameer17: I honestly would not mind Jett if they made a few changes to him. The fact that the link skill is just a money making system is really dumb which kind of killed it for me with Jett. Another is how they decided to combined the skills. Honestly if it's suppose to be a mix of bucc/sair, I want a playing style that reflexes that. The main problem for me is that it's a revamped corsair with just buffs from buccaneers (clarity, critical skill in 4th job, buccaneer's endurance skill). There isn't any buccaneer moves that you use once hit 3rd job except for their copy of fist which gets replaced by rapid fire. Jett wouldn't be a bad addition to the pirate jobs if they made the playing style reflex that it's just a fusion of buccaneer and corsair with a mix range and melee instead of just making a weaker sair with a few buffs from buccaneers.

@Alienstock: It's not really a positive attitude , it's more of just I have accepted our fate. Pirates will always be the butt of the joke for nexon. We just need to accept it and move on. As much as I would love all these glitches to be fixed asap since that's what a company should do, but we all know it's not going to happen. There's no point in complaining about it because we all know how it's going to end with them just leaving us this way until the revamp.
I'm honestly just tired of the constant complaining from both sides. We know the revamp is coming this summer, we know we are getting the KMS version of it, we know how nexon treats us and what their mostly likely action is. All we can do is just report to them the number of glitches there are (which has already been reported) and pretend that they are working to fix it when in reality just waiting until revamp. There's no need to spam the website constantly like we have for months. At the same time the other side needs to understand that pirates is just a joke to nexon with no other class being shafted by nexon as much as us and we have a right to complain, but we do not have the right to complain to this extent.

[quote=BakinCakes]It's funny how people come to the PIRATE forums and tell pirates to stop complaining.

Would you like it if we complained in the general forums instead?[/quote]

I agree why come to our threads and having the balls to tell us To stop voicing our opinions on OUR THREADS Then have the nerve to start a flame war over it

[quote=ameer17]Honestly Thieves have done the same not as much as buccs but still complaining the only problem we have had is because our revamp is being held for something stupid other classes never had to really go through none of this We have the infamous mount lags which makes people think twice before adding a sair, Buccs with the lowest Dps (Behind a support class?), Not to mention that we still have pre-bb dmg which requires a larger amount of %Str or %Dex than other classes, And the slap in the face that pissed many of us off Jett -___- you cancel our revamp just to introduce a class that's in reality the same as us just different animations.Then the glitches which we cant add sp into our chars which hinders many potential Pirates from Job adv.

And really most people that hate us never even tried our class so really they wouldn't know how we felt[/quote]

And Yeah! I got the same feeeling has you, my friend dont understand how:
Its hard to fund a Sair bcse of our pre-bb stats
How having mounts or whatever else, we have no choice bcse of our clean range
How Jetts are ridiculasing us!
And, How having no revamp would be impossible,to stay good in this new Mapleworld that changed so much with noobs, ksers, hackers, and with ppl that haves more att buff and 200k+ range and 99k hp

I should tell them the same speech next time ;D

*BTW, the revamp is coming , dont forget you revamped book bro

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]@ameer17: Eh, all I ever see there is the hate towards DBs and the mages just saying bishops need dps and arch mages need more power while on pirate forums all I ever see is hate towards something usually stupid.[/quote]

Honestly Thieves have done the same not as much as buccs but still complaining the only problem we have had is because our revamp is being held for something stupid other classes never had to really go through none of this We have the infamous mount lags which makes people think twice before adding a sair, Buccs with the lowest Dps (Behind a support class?), Not to mention that we still have pre-bb dmg which requires a larger amount of %Str or %Dex than other classes, And the slap in the face that pissed many of us off Jett -___- you cancel our revamp just to introduce a class that's in reality the same as us just different animations.Then the glitches which we cant add sp into our chars which hinders many potential Pirates from Job adv.

And really most people that hate us never even tried our class so really they wouldn't know how we felt

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]@ameer17: Eh, all I ever see there is the hate towards DBs and the mages just saying bishops need dps and arch mages need more power while on pirate forums all I ever see is hate towards something usually stupid.[/quote]

Yessh, thats the thing ppl hating and say stupidity on pirate when they dont playing them. Cmon, go talk about their own class and stop bandwagoning here, its boring, the revamp its coming, thats all!

*Btw, i like ppl like you, they see in the good way instead of always being negative

@ameer17: Eh, all I ever see there is the hate towards DBs and the mages just saying bishops need dps and arch mages need more power while on pirate forums all I ever see is hate towards something usually stupid.

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]Probably is a contrary my fellow pirate.
All though I doubt the elitism will stop after the revamp. Out of all the forums, gatta say pirates are probably the most stuck up. Can see why everyone on basil hates us lol..[/quote]

No james that goes to the thieves and Mages We have never been stuck up only just a few and its just a phase but really the only reason people hate us is because we complain about the truth and that they are tired of seeing it everywhere..

OT: You think this is bad wait till phantom -______- you will see 100+1 Threads about it

Wait? Look at the glitches in our skills and tell us to wait.

[quote=MagiBombchu]Alright, fair enough. Revamps aren't quite as simple as I put it.[/quote]

Shut up so why we have revamped book,
Why the pirate job adv talk about revamped skills
Why skills have a bit changed

Damn , Seriously stop being negative and look the real way. Cmon, Basiler like you start to piss me off! >.<

[quote=MagiBombchu]That's what I just said. (Pirates aren't popular, nor well balanced. Thus, you guys get a revamp. It's in a game designer's best interest to make all classes appealing.) Otherwise they start wondering if a class only 1% of the population plays is a waste of data or not.

(Also revamps tend to resolve issues some people who previous tried the class had. For example, let's say a lot of people tried out a class and decided they didn't like it because it had no defensive skills. Some time later, that class gets revamped with skills that help it survive easier. That change may very well be those people needed to enjoy the class.)

(It's all fine and good if you enjoyed a class before the revamp, it just doesn't make you better than anyone else.)[/quote]

No you said two contradictory things. I agree with the first half but the rest was completely false and didn't make sense what so ever. Everything in the parentheses is correct, but the stuff you said earlier about "us not getting a revamp if we were popular and balanced" is false. Popular classes and strong classes have already been balanced multiple times, and thats something you can't deny. Also being 1% of the population wouldn't make it waste of data, it gives it more reason to revamp, similar to when shads were unpopular.

[quote=MagiBombchu]Because that's what a buff does. It makes the class better and more appealing. You pirates literally would not be getting a revamp if you were popular and well balanced.[/quote]

You got it way off. The first part is right, that is what a revamp does. The 2nd part makes no sense. Classes that were perfectly balanced, and exteremly popular were balanced various times. Nexon just doesn't care much for pirates, having brought them very little money and not generally appealing to the public. This only fuels more reasons for a revamp, and we only got it because we complained.

[quote=AoiHorizon]you shut up.

The TS is right. Nexon never actually had the need to put up a revamp for pirates. Like JETT they dont [b]need[/b] to copy kms. But it has been stated that the revamp will come. They never stated when, so just wait enough with "nexon hates pirates".[/quote]

I was never complaining about the revamp in any matter, nor commenting upon anything about Nexon "hating" the Pirate class. I was simply alluding satirically to how those who are "true" pirates aren't going to come up into these "bandwagon" threads and/or complain about a "bandwagon" in the first place. So, sir, you may now shut up.

@Rosencroft: Just watch out for those anti-gravity apples

@Rosencroft: For the new skills? I mean, I just don't like it when we label people as "Wrong" or "Bad" just because they want to try out the new skills.
Now, when they take it too far and start becoming elitist, that's when they become "a female hygiene product."
I think I understand where you're coming from, though. Why play a class just for their overpowered skills and not because you love it? Is that what you're trying to get at? Because I agree... Yes, you can try out the new skills, but if you don't love your class (or like it at least) I personally don't believe you can get the full fun out of it. Like Jetts, they're OP (or so I've heard), but I can't stand playing one because they're just... too fast.

And here I thought I was the only one who hated the term "bandwagoners." o.o

Glad we're all on the same page. Labeling a new player as a "bandwagoner" is completely unnecessary. That would be the equivalent to calling everyone who makes a Phantom when it comes out a "Bandwagoner." That's just wrong...

@EroeCorsari: : Haha

i actually rather the current skills with i-frames and all that. wanted to make a bucc because of all the i-frames, but decided against it cos i wouldn't be able to train it to a high enough level by the time the patch arrives... lol i guess im very old-school, also wanted to make a sin for the avenger animation

[quote=Rosencroft]
I suppose, I guess I can hope for the best... I dream of the day we can all sit down at the tavern together and drink a hearty cup of ale... Old School and New School... Arg...[/quote]

Just meh, so much hate I have seen.
From Big Bang of old school saying oh bandwagoners because don't have to do the tough training with exp curve and no more newts.
To mechanics and the massive hate they got and us trying to say they aren't part of the pirate class.
To after UAs with the massive, and mean massive hate with buccs vs ua bucc. Even some hate against ua sairs which was just a joke to me.
To the year or two of us waiting for a revamp when found out that KMS excluded thieves/pirates for god knows why and the constant complaining that spammed basil of how bad buccs needed a revamp.
To the revamp first hit the test servers of korea and the massive hate of no ST/Boat.
To delays recently of the revamp and of Jett/dragon warrior.

I think the only time there was no hate was with cannoneer because they were kind of overshadowed by Mercedes and Demon Slayers coming out soon after. The only real hate with them was with the few hackers.

[quote=Rosencroft]So does this mean I can still talk? I've had like 1 outlaw and 2 Corsairs.
Outlaw: From Pirate release which took hours and months of dedication sweet and tears.
1st Corsair: After losing my old outlaw (deleted) I moped for a few months and then decided to remake it and get it to Corsair, this is also pre-balance.
2nd Corsair: After losing my old Corsair mere [b]WEEKS[/b] before the Big Bang Patch i quit for a while, and then eventually got back on the ship and here I am.

This is the 3rd incarnation of the same character...

But I digress. After the Revamp, Pirates will stop differentiating from Old School and New School Pirates. It happened with Paladins, it happened with Shadowers, and its going to happen to both Corsairs and Buccaneers. Hell, I might even get on the Buccaneer Bandwagon and still keep my Corsair. I'm not doing this for any reason beyond this: [b]I LOVE PIRATES.[/b]

EDIT: I wonder if it is contrary if I liked your comment? o.o[/quote]

Probably is a contrary my fellow pirate.
All though I doubt the elitism will stop after the revamp. Out of all the forums, gatta say pirates are probably the most stuck up. Can see why everyone on basil hates us lol..

[quote=Rosencroft]@ShadeCaro: I actually tried to have the perfect internet discussion and then some ass bandit decided to leap into the conversation and called the opposition everything under the sun... In the end all we have are dreams I suppose [/quote]

Dreams are meant to be broken.

[quote=Rosencroft]This is the internet, its pretty much like that on [b]EVERY[/b] forum [/quote]

A man can dream for the perfect discussion on the internet. Unfortunately, some dreams are out of reality's grasp.

@PraisedAura: I still go on Southperry time to time, but even they can be as stupid as Basilmarket.

[quote=cooldylen]If you're not a pre balance patch pirate then shut up.[/quote]

That's like saying HURR IF U DIDNT MAK PIRATE ON RELEASE DAT U R STUPID

No. Please. No. God damn, why did I discover this Cancer Site.

I'm making a bucc after revamp. Does that make me a bad person.?

@yuzuru Everyone can make whatever class whenever they want stop crying and live with it. Its been around since maple was created and yet people still cry about bandwagoners.

[quote=cooldylen]If you're not a pre balance patch pirate then shut up.[/quote]

you shut up.

The TS is right. Nexon never actually had the need to put up a revamp for pirates. Like JETT they dont [b]need[/b] to copy kms. But it has been stated that the revamp will come. They never stated when, so just wait enough with "nexon hates pirates".

[quote=Yuzuru]ikr I made my bucc when they came out ._.[/quote]Does that make you a better person than the buccs made after the revamp?

Still gonna complain.

ohaithar

Nexon sucks. Nexon hates pirates. Nexon is lazy.

The revamp should have come in MAY. EARLY JUNE AT THE LATEST.

it will come, but seriously, moo.

Well... this is a rather old topic...

This thread won't help.

If you're not a pre balance patch pirate then shut up.