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Raging blow question

If my buffed range is about 18k, how much do you think i'll hit per hit on raging blow?

September 16, 2012

16 Comments • Newest first

SilentXynh

@TogoPogo:
Hard to know without knowing your equipment.
Arans have something around 130 att from buffs and passives, and Snow Charge is a multiplier to range by 1.35.
Aran ranges are high because of that reason.
If I had to estimate, probably around 60 or 70k.

Reply September 17, 2012 - edited
TogoPogo

[quote=SilentXynh]@chyeung360:
It's 1.49 for PA/Spear, 1.34 for 2H Axe/Sword. Even comparing 1H (1.2x), ACA easily makes up for it compared to Berserk.[/quote]

Sorry for butting into the conversation, but I'm just wondering that if I had a ~120k range on an Aran, then would I have a [(120/1.49)*1.2]k range on a 1h Hero?

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SilentXynh

@chyeung360:
I know my multipliers thanks very much.
It's 1.49 for PA/Spear, 1.34 for 2H Axe/Sword. Even comparing 1H (1.2x), ACA easily makes up for it compared to Berserk.
Polearms have lower base attack, Heroes have more attack from stackable Rage, and another 30 from AFA.
The critical boost is roughly only a 22.5% increase, when compared to a 5% crit rate. Heroes actually have more crit than that with Enrage active, but that's for 1v1.
Heroes also have a passive 50% PDR ignore, making it extremely easy to get 100% ignore.
Raging Blow is already 10% stronger without factoring crits, and the last hit of RB always crits.
Then you have Chance Attack to boost your damage by another 25% with Panic.
See where I'm going?

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chyeung360

[quote=SilentXynh]Being picky here, but while they're meant for 1v1, Heroes getting Raging Blow means they beat Dark Knights at mobbing too.
(1100% with one guaranteed crit vs 1000% DI, higher natural PDR ignore, Chance Attack, ACA's 2x vs Berserk's 1.6x)
So if you're not that great at mobbing, what does that make us?[/quote]

Well yea nexon does seem to like neglecting a select few classes.
But you gotta factor in some other stuff too when comparing %dmg, like weapon multiplier.
iirc polearm/spear is 1.7 and 2H sword/axe is 1.34? and then DrKs have higher base crit chance too (for mobbing, when enrage isn't used). but even with those advantages Drks are probably only marginally better.

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SilentXynh

@AfroAmerican:
Yes it would.
Same base speed at Normal(6).

Not a problem for me though
And my Hero is nearly there too

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AfroAmerican

[quote=SilentXynh]Being picky here, but while they're meant for 1v1, Heroes getting Raging Blow means they beat Dark Knights at mobbing too.
(1100% with one guaranteed crit vs 1000% DI, higher natural PDR ignore, Chance Attack, ACA's 2x vs Berserk's 1.6x)
So if you're not that great at mobbing, what does that make us?[/quote]
Dude exactly...the new hyper skill is nice..but ittl be a pain to lvl my drk 127-170 to even get it..l> for thief hyperskills..btw would my dark impale with a psb be faster than a hero's raging blow with a "normal" speed 2 handed sword?

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dracox5234

[quote=AfroAmerican]im very anti-hero but i must say..axe version of raging blow is dammmnnnn sexy[/quote]
axe version of everything is dammmnnnn sexy.

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SilentXynh

[quote=chyeung360]keep in mind it IS 67.3k x 5 = 336.5k that's still decent. Hero's are meant for 1v1 anyways.

Plus, with max enrage it'd be 67.3*1.6 = 107.7k

then factor in Panic's darkness effect that's 107.7*1.25 = 134.6k per hit of Raging Blow. I think that's pretty decent.

This also doesn't factor in that enrage gives extra crit chance, and AFA would be adding to your DPS by a fair amount too.

So yes mobbing we're not that great but then we're made to boss anyway.[/quote]

Being picky here, but while they're meant for 1v1, Heroes getting Raging Blow means they beat Dark Knights at mobbing too.
(1100% with one guaranteed crit vs 1000% DI, higher natural PDR ignore, Chance Attack, ACA's 2x vs Berserk's 1.6x)
So if you're not that great at mobbing, what does that make us?

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AfroAmerican

@tommy899: at the bottom of this page http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/kms-ver-1-2-156-warrior-reorganization-ancient-artifacts/

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tommy899

[quote=AfroAmerican]im very anti-hero but i must say..axe version of raging blow is dammmnnnn sexy[/quote]

do you happen to have a video where i can see the animation?

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AfroAmerican

im very anti-hero but i must say..axe version of raging blow is dammmnnnn sexy

Reply September 16, 2012 - edited
tommy899

Raging blow mobs correct?

Reply September 16, 2012 - edited
chyeung360

keep in mind it IS 67.3k x 5 = 336.5k that's still decent. Hero's are meant for 1v1 anyways.

Plus, with max enrage it'd be 67.3*1.6 = 107.7k

then factor in Panic's darkness effect that's 107.7*1.25 = 134.6k per hit of Raging Blow. I think that's pretty decent.

This also doesn't factor in that enrage gives extra crit chance, and AFA would be adding to your DPS by a fair amount too.

So yes mobbing we're not that great but then we're made to boss anyway.

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tommy899

Dang, i'm weak..

Reply September 16, 2012 - edited
dracox5234

220% x 18000
~39600 per line without aca

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SilentXynh

Ignoring the issue of PDR entirely (and the fact that you can get 100% ignore PDR without THAT much trouble):
18k upper range means your lower range is ~12.6k.
The average is 15.3k.
Assuming maxed RB and ACA:
15.3*2*2.2 = 67.3k per hit.
Keep in mind the last hit always crits.
Multiply your damage through by 1.25 if you use Panic on them beforehand.

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