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I just had an interesting thought

Before I start, I want to point out that what you're about to read is not true or proven. It's just something that occurred to me. So keep an open mind. >_>

What if consciousness existed as particles. Not just any microscopic particles, but at the quantum level. What if these particles are produced within our subconsciousness only to be dispersed as consciousness outside of the human body? Not just that, but the consciousness of people would collect into pools or "hot spots". With a large enough build-up, these hot spots could influence the environment (e.g: people, random events, probability, etc). Pools of consciousness from one person or group of people could enter a different person's mind, thus causing a slight "connection" with people; maybe they feel like they're being watched. Could these particles be the cause of the existence of God? Where God is not an all powerful entity, but a collection of consciousness of billions of people? With a "hot spot" generated by billions, surely this can cause GREAT influences such as miracles. All people of a certain religion may feel connected towards each other because maybe they share the same pool of consciousness. Can ghosts (let's assume they're real for the sake of this idea) be the manifestation of these particles? Perhaps at the time of death, your subconscious releases these particles and magnifies the energy moving these particles. These would also cause a great influence upon the environment. (e.g: knocking, moving stuff, entering dreams). Somehow, these particles of consciousness are loaded with information. The information expresses the intentions, desires, hope, despair, or communication. Especially with communication, are psychics the people who are gifted with sending and receiving these particles better than others?

If you ever get bad vibes from someone, or your instinct tells you to do something, or you feel connected with someone, or that someone is watching you; can it possible that the cause of this was particles loaded with information entering your subconsciousness?

October 7, 2011

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vaelietta

@caben45: So all of those that were listed were also crazy because they thought up science fiction? According to your thinking, if they thought it up, they believe in it.
"But they're in the entertainment industry" is probably what you might think next. What if they made a movie about thetans? Does that make them crazy? No. HURRRRR
Using different scenarios doesn't mean the concept is invalid either. You could buy something or sell something, but you still exchange money. HUURRR

In case your brain cannot understand the difference between two elementary school words:
[url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thought]thought[/url]
[url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belief]belief[/url]

Reply October 8, 2011
AnasF

His Dark Materials already did it.

Reply October 7, 2011
SasukeIIV

Funny, I had a similar thought this morning.

Reply October 7, 2011
thedylan

What if the universe is just one big computer simulation?

How bout them apples?

Reply October 7, 2011
romperz

hmmmm INCEPTION!

Reply October 7, 2011
iLickWalls

[quote=Neverhood]I have a theory that whenever people yawn, a ghost is passing through them.

That's why it's contagious in a given area.[/quote]
When your higher up in altitude or whatever, the pressure in your ears change, so you yawn to equalize the pressure or something like that. Well when your in a room, the pressure in your ears slowly builds up. So you yawn to equalize it. By doing this, you are messing up somebody elses pressure, and so that causes them to yawn.

Reply October 7, 2011
vaelietta

@Storm1029: If this stuff is true, then yes. However only to a very miniscule margin. It would be unnoticeable. Perhaps the best way to communicate is if their consciousness is directly voiced out of their mouths. Do you feel the bacteria squirming around on your skin? Or the air pressure constantly hitting you? It could be possible that we just suck with ESP in general so it's impossible to feel any amount. But assuming it is real, it would cause conflict but will be not be noticed. Did you know that there's [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_gravitation]gravity between you and an object[/url]? It's there, but not strong enough to attract objects to you. So you don't notice it.

Reply October 7, 2011
SupremeEyes

[quote=Storm1029]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet This is pretty cool. Although, if each particle had consciousness would it be each particle had it's own individual consciousness or is it all a tiny part of one big consciousness all trying to sway us into it's own thought? And does every bit of matter have consciousness then? And the idea of connections between objects, people, and circumstances has always been around. It's almost animalistic. Ever seen a dog randomly freak out and start barking at nothing in the middle of the night? Maybe you're right and this is the truth but we just can't feel it like animals can. Idk, just saying. O.o[/quote]

What is scary is if what if each particle of electrical information would be a living being, therefore inside our brain there's a whole invisible population. Each on are as individual as we humans are, however, these particles are working together and always reaching an agreement. We just can't feel it as we can only get the information and translate it into real actions, and also since we can't perceive it we think we are a single individual. What a delusion. >.<

You know, sometimes we get mixed feelings, and are always in doubt of something. It could be the response of this population, and our brain as the great computer as it is, it has problems translating everything, so we make a choice always thinking of all possibilities.

I know, just a though.

Reply October 7, 2011
vaelietta

[quote=Storm1029]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet This is pretty cool. Although, if each particle had consciousness would it be each particle had it's own individual consciousness or is it all a tiny part of one big consciousness all trying to sway us into it's own thought? And does every bit of matter have consciousness then? And the idea of connections between objects, people, and circumstances has always been around. It's almost animalistic. Ever seen a dog randomly freak out and start barking at nothing in the middle of the night? Maybe you're right and this is the truth but we just can't feel it like animals can. Idk, just saying. O.o[/quote]

Very interesting points.

Your first point: If I had to pull a random answer out of my ass, it would be both. Each particle could come from different individuals, but would be grouped with other particles coming from a different person with the same intentions. Think of it like this. I have 1$. You have 1$. Each is 1$, but together it's 2$. Still, both are money.

Your second point: Maybe the sending and receiving of conscious particle thingies in our heads is more developed than others. Here's how I would imagine it. The sending and receiving would basically be our 6th sense, i.e extrasensory perception (ESP). People have better hearing or smell than others. Why not have people who have ESP skills are the psychics we have today? Dogs are better with the sense of smell. Hawks are better with the sense of sight. Perhaps animals in general have a better sense of ESP, our 6th sense that sends and receives these conscious particles. Again, I'm pulling these answers out of my ass, but they make sense, right?

Reply October 7, 2011
SupremeEyes

[quote=primalfurey]energy is not created only converted, the universe only has a certain amount of energy and because it is expanding eventually all that energy will be so dilouted that it will become unable to acheive anything. This could possibly support an idea that the universe is part of a mortal being with a lifespan.

on the other hand galaxy's do not behave like atoms, the only reason galaxy's clump together in a spiral fashion is because in most cases a large black hole is the centre (our galaxy included)[/quote]

But the fact you are transforming something to get energy could be rated the same as creating. Of course galaxies do not behave like atoms, but that could be the keyword, we do not know anything as our wisdom can't go any further beyond quarks, neither fully understand how they work. You said about black-holes, which are always compressing any form of matter or energy around it, not even light can escape. Now think of this: don't most people slightly "shrink" when they get extremely old? Yes, what we call aging process could be just a sort of "black holes" compressing everything in its universes inside our body, thus, shortening our size?

Haha, nah that would be too crazy. But I do believe that there's dark matter inside our atoms. :o

Reply October 7, 2011
SupremeEyes

[quote=vaelietta]@caben45: Even if it is science fiction, that doesn't mean I believe in it as a religion (Just looked up who L. Ron was. He's taking it to extremes and believes in it. I don't.). Apparently, thinking means reality to you, doesn't it? If you thought of killing someone, does that automatically make you a murderer? If an atheist thinks about God, heaven or hell, does that makes him a Christian? If I thought about this concept, does it automatically make me a crazy believer? No, it doesn't. I can think and analyze all I want without believing in it.

Btw: I may as well chill with George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Gene Roddenberry, and a bunch of game developers because they also qualify to spoon with L. Ron's dead body, brah.[/quote]

Relax, read my post above. o.o

If what we think is what we believe, people will tag me as crazy! Which of course, it is not. It's just something I thought of when I read your thread.

Reply October 7, 2011
vaelietta

@caben45: Even if it is science fiction, that doesn't mean I believe in it as a religion (Just looked up who L. Ron was. He's taking it to extremes and believes in it. I don't.). Apparently, thinking means reality to you, doesn't it? If you thought of killing someone, does that automatically make you a murderer? If an atheist thinks about God, heaven or hell, does that makes him a Christian? If I thought about this concept, does it automatically make me a crazy believer? No, it doesn't. I can think and analyze all I want without believing in it.

Btw: I may as well chill with George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Gene Roddenberry, and a bunch of game developers because they also qualify to spoon with L. Ron's dead body, brah.

Reply October 7, 2011
SupremeEyes

Ok, want to brainstorm? Let's do it:

Have you ever imagined we human beings as any other living form in our universe along all stars and galaxies could be forming together a greater being? One that we can't see since we will be microscopic in amazing proportions. Think of it, planets spin around a center, stars and all this cosmic matter are always in movement. As a gentle song echoing into our ears, our universe never stops to amuse us. Always producing energy and renovating itself until it will die. As all living beings do. We could be the poo of some greater being or even inside its brain and we wouldn't even know it!

Think of it, planets and galaxies always in spiral movements, those are the very basic principles of an atom. So following that same logic we can very well think of what is inside us. We can't really see anything beyond a quark nor do we have the knowledge to understand it. It could be a whole universe with its own stars and living forms and we wouldn't know! And if you take a moment to breath you would realize if that's true, then there's trillions and trillions of universes inside you, your very body. And whatever greater being we unite to compose, it wouldn't know about that as well and they would be wondering: Hey, imagine if inside our own atoms and quarks there's whole universes? Tsk tsk.

Now talking about consciousness: I always think we are nothing but a computer. Think of it too: We store data in our brains, we can lose our memory, we can have loss memory which would be a partial files deletion, we are bond to "errors (see: crazyness or any type of mental sickness)". We are theoretically electric for we have a huge amount of electrons in our body. We can keep ourselves always "recharged" through different sources of energy. Just like a computer, the only difference is that we are much more polished and well-done than any computer ever. And if we, mere mortals, manage to build a computer as "perfect" as we are, I'm afraid I won't be living to see such epicness.

Anyway, keep an open mind. >_>

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
Nolen

I Stopped at existence of god

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Gnawliryc

even if this is true, who knows how long it would take to prove it.
but it's an interesting thought, and i kinda like the idea.

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
vaelietta

@caben45: I've never heard of him before..or his story. That's some scary coincidence. LOL

@ElitistMan: It's not a theory. It's just a thought that popped up. But let's say this is all true. You're having someone from Basil explain the gist of it when you should have some expert tell you in depth. It's like me giving you some complex equation, but only an expert in mathematics can prove that equation. Edit: I just had another thought. Maybe consciousness from 7 billion people isn't enough to influence such a catastrophic event, but only enough to do something small consistently. Like, if everyone on Earth believed in it, you would always get heads instead of tails when coin is flip. Before this get's blown out of proportion, I'll make this clear: I don't really believe in this stuff at all, but it's interesting to think about.

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ImKafei

@Sodacombo: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ farts

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
ImKafei

Well, I do feel "vibes" sometimes. @_@

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
vaelietta

No. I want to say that most of the time, the particles sent from one individual is far to weak to be felt. That's why it gets collected into "hot spots" where these particles have similar intentions/information. You're the only one who wants to send vibes to me. So you don't have buddies who feels the same way, therefore it has no pool to go to. It just gets wasted away and will never be felt.

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
vaelietta

[quote=Neverhood]I have a theory that whenever people yawn, a ghost is passing through them.

That's why it's contagious in a given area.[/quote]

Maybe conscious particles loaded with information saying "I'm tired", is received by others and their subconsciousness responds with that reaction? O_O

Reply October 7, 2011 - edited
MrNoobody

Interesting, but I might have to call my interesting stories expert to confirm this.

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