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For Upcoming Red, which 4th job skill to steal?

In RED we can now steal FC, but is SE better? due to FC's CD. And apparently we can also steal Arrow Platter from BMs, which does 153% dmg for 30 secs, like a summon. What do you guys say is the best?

July 20, 2013

16 Comments • Newest first

VictorXG

Alright guys, thanks! Joe Tang's new chart says that Arrow platter + miles + CoC is the Best. Thanks for the helpful thoughts/replies! ^^

Reply July 21, 2013
dewgong

@LuxSolis Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that bosses can no longer be "pushed" or knockbacked?

Reply July 21, 2013
LuxSolis

[quote=darkcow12]Arrow platter when vsing stationary bosses, otherwise FC is better.[/quote]

Not really, mobile bosses can be KBed against a wall like Empress, PB, Arkarium, etc. only issue I see with Arrow Platter is triggering Damage Reflect, but I guess you just gotta be extra careful letting it attack for 15 seconds.

Reply July 21, 2013
xfairytales

[quote=ikickazzxd]so does that mean you wont be using mille to atk?[/quote]

You can use Mille with arrow platter

Reply July 20, 2013
VictorXG

Guys, one more question. Where are you all getting this dps chart from? Or joe tang's advice for phants to have arrow platteR? Thanks

Reply July 20, 2013
ikickazzxd

so does that mean you wont be using mille to atk?

Reply July 20, 2013
Regatzopunk

arrow platter is the best option, atleast according to Joe Tang. I will be stealing arrow platter and final cut.

Reply July 20, 2013
xfairytales

@VictorXG: Arrow Platter is an attack. And I'm not sure about that. To my knowledge, FC is better than SE. But you should be able to have SE + FC, decent or from party

Reply July 20, 2013
VictorXG

[quote=yoguy911]can't steal summons, it's best to get buff duration and steal FC for 4th job and chain over chain for 3rd.[/quote]

Arrow platter is considered as an attack I think. Not sure.
@DeniseWong
Does that mean SE is not as good as FC?

Reply July 20, 2013
Andeeezyyy

that feel when u dont even steal 1st job skills

and i prefer dark harmony over SE anyday ill see how fincal cut is i dont even know what arrow platter is though

someone explain what arrow platter is

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited
xfairytales

For optimal damage, let's say to bosses, this will be your build:
1) Magic Armor or Iron Body
2) Rage
3) Chain over Cross
4) Arrow Platter
Final Cut is NOT used because even with no cooldown final cut, you will do 14k% of damage whereas with arrow platter, you will do 17k% of damage. This is with hyper skills.
Furthermore, Final Cut is %total damage which is multiplicative, which means you won't gain as much since you already have Aria and Chain over Cross.

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited
TheDStar

According to JoeTang, Arrow Platter+ CoC.
According to me, I have no idea.

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited
Chepstorage

Hmm.. now I think I know how other adventurer classes fell about phantoms.. It does fell weird being robed an skill XD

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited
shimon6798

final cut+ cross over chain <3

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited
yoguy911

can't steal summons, it's best to get buff duration and steal FC for 4th job and chain over chain for 3rd.

Reply July 20, 2013 - edited