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Corkscrew Blow obsolete?

So I made a Buccaneer for the RED update and just advanced to 2nd job. Is Corkscrew Blow essentially useless now, seeing as how it doesn't "rush" mobs anymore? Should I just max Tornado Uppercut instead? I haven't been able to find a proper build post RED and the most recent seems to be Tricks. Also if anyone could provide me with a post RED build, I would greatly appreciate it.

December 8, 2013

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Helpingly

@tricks122: Yeah I noticed. I assume that most of the threads where he was the last comment were threads that were bumped from years ago.

Also, hurry and join the discord bro

Reply March 1, 2016
Tricks122

@zcrimsyn Keep telling yourself that, the more you do, the more it fails to make itself true. The mere fact that you keep referring to traditionally 'kid-like' arguments or sayings('Mad', 'butthurt', 'l0l') just leads me to believe you're lacking in maturity. Keep up that attitude in real life; I'm sure it'll get you places, especially with your brash assumptions and assuming I'm 'mad' instead of 'annoyed' with your inability to distinguish between emotions.

I've seen less Archers than Pirates, the exceptions being Wild Hunters, and solely because of their revamp. Classes are relative in popularity to the times and to their most recent revamp; Pirates aren't popular, but Archers also aren't really popular either, and you'll still see a good amount of Buccaneers training due to their ease at it. You see less of them if you aren't because they don't tend to excel anywhere else.

Reply March 1, 2016
zCrimsyn

@tricks122: l0l you're mad so obviously you're butthurt. Whether it be about me bumping and old thread or talking badly about pirates you're mad. Archers are definitely not a popular class but they are more popular than pirates. I think the only pirate class that is more or less popular is xenons bc they are a mix. ABs I don't see many of those around either. Maybe it's just bc the other classes overshadow the pirate classes so it makes it seem very little.

Reply February 29, 2016
Tricks122

@zcrimsyn If you think this is 'butthurt', then you need to read up on both your definition of the term and how I tend to post around here. You're not making me butthurt, you're just annoying; necroing a three year old thread for a troll comment is dumb, and if you want to try and argue otherwise... you're free to, but you're still an idiot for bumping this with no reason beyond an unfunny joke.

Angelic Busters are far less popular than Corsairs/Buccaneers in my experience. Class numbers tend to be relative and heavily vary based on where you are, your play times, what you end up doing, etc. Archers, minus one or two variants, seem to be relatively unpopular and the other three classes have healthy numbers.

Reply February 29, 2016
zCrimsyn

@tricks122: lol someone's butthurt I didn't literally mean obsolete it was a joke/troll comment imo. However, they are very few of that class compared to every other class out there. Shades are probably the most popular pirate class but that doesn't mean theirs a lot of them either. Buccs and Sairs are least amount of the pirates in game.

Reply February 29, 2016
Tricks122

@helpingly This thread is three years old.

@zcrimsyn Nothing is obsolete, since the point of 'winning' MapleStory involves having fun. Some people enjoy Pirates. If you're one of those 'high damage=fun and my opinion is right' players, then you can continue having that mentality in everything and enjoy your efficiency; I'll enjoy having fun my way and not hampering my experience by adhering to your mentality.

Also, the thread is several years old, so not only are you late to the 'pirates are bad' party, your completely irrelevant post is pretty much meaningless. Learn to read before you decide to try and write something coherent in a fitting place, because you've failed at both those things in something so mundane and easy today.

Small edit: There are plenty of Shades, it's just that server populations tend to differ and Shades are often doing useful things like bossing instead of mindlessly training, hence you'll see less of them than common classes which are grind-heavy at Second Drill Hall. Most people making classes for levels aren't making a Shade due to poor mobbing.

Reply February 29, 2016 - edited
zCrimsyn

@helpingly: Actually there really isn't that many shades as well. Then again I haven't played the game for about a month now. A month or two ago though hardly anyone played a pirate class.

Reply February 29, 2016 - edited
Helpingly

@zcrimsyn: DO you see how many shades there are? o-o

Reply February 29, 2016 - edited
zCrimsyn

Pirates are obsolete.

Reply February 29, 2016 - edited
MegGriffin

Ayumolive terrible guide. Dragon Strike is useless. Maxing before fist enrage? OOHHH SURE.

Also, Pirates Revenge is probably the Bucc's most important skill. Boosts your range SOOO much.

Good Build:

100: 1 Fist Enrage, 1 Bucc Blast, 1 Ultra Charge
101: 3 Double Down
102: 5 Double Down
103 4 UC
104 7 UC
105 10 UC
MAX Pirates Revenge
MAX Crossbones
MAX Bucc Blast
10 Speed Infusion (Thats around 180 seconds. Crossbones is 180 seconds, therefore you don't need more time as you'll need to rebuff anyway)
MAX Fist Enrage
MAX Time Leap
MAX Typhoon Crush

Rest who gives?

Reply December 13, 2013 - edited
Zeaxan

Just go with Tornado upper, Its more useful while leveling at that job and since CSB doesn't push mobs is super useless just level it with whatever points u have left in the end. Also Tornado Upper is Awesome against the Balrog Boss since it hits the face falls and hits the right hand too. Anyways good luck!

Reply December 10, 2013 - edited
PhaseOfFact

[quote=itDoesMAtter]You're free to put skills on whatever is most effective. But here's an outline, to highlight what you will result in:
[url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/]http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/[/url][/quote]

Mother of god that might be the worst build I have ever seen...

OT: As everyone has said, you won't really be using either past 4th job so it doesn't really matter. I believe CSB is the best "bossing" skill in 3rd job though, and linking Spiral Assault to CSB looks pretty neat (although completely useless damage wise) so I guess CSB?

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
Wolfss

I dont even understand buccs having tornado uppercut tbh lol.

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
izama

[quote=itDoesMAtter]You're free to put skills on whatever is most effective. But here's an outline, to highlight what you will result in:
[url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/]http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/[/url][/quote]

Ayumilove makes terrible guides. Just saying.

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
jh92

[quote=itDoesMAtter]You're free to put skills on whatever is most effective. But here's an outline, to highlight what you will result in:
[url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/]http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/[/url][/quote]

Lol horrible guide: 3rd job don't max spiral, 4th job leave pirate revenge near the end and dragon strike before bucc blast.

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
itDoesMAtter

You're free to put skills on whatever is most effective. But here's an outline, to highlight what you will result in:
[url=http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/]http://ayumilove.net/maplestory-red-buccaneer-skill-build-guide-2013/[/url]

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
Staarbucks

[quote=jh92]Corkscrew doesn't rush, I don't need to chain spiral to corkscrew, spiral spam can rush its own.[/quote]

Oh havent played since RED update...

Anyhow you hardly use either skills at 4th job

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
jh92

[quote=Staarbucks]Tornado uppercut is useless.

Max corkscrew and then u can link to spiral assault and rush mobs[/quote]

Corkscrew doesn't rush, I don't need to chain spiral with corkscrew, spiral spam can rush by itself.

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
Staarbucks

Tornado uppercut is useless.

Max corkscrew and then u can link to spiral assault and rush mobs

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
jh92

It's perfectly fine to spam spiral assault on its own without chaining to corkscrew, there's hardly any delay and it has no problem rushing stuff. Corkscrew is useless now, tornado is much better for 2nd job training because of that range so I maxed that.

Reply December 9, 2013 - edited
SilverFoxR

Honestly, you'll have enough points to max all but one skill, but that skill will have almost all of it's points. Tornado Upper is useful in 2nd job, but not so much in any other job. Corkscrew Punch may not have that many uses either, but it does link with Spiral Assault in 3rd job (which does push enemies), so it has more potential use beyond 2nd job than Tornado Upper does.

It won't kill you to max either or.

Reply December 8, 2013 - edited