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How does Kishin Work?

I want to make a mule to help train my DS. Will putting Kishin anywhere on the map buff the spawn rate or is in only within the 2 demons. Thanks

May 21, 2014

11 Comments • Newest first

Conceit

[quote=CherryTigers]@Kannaspirator Honestly, I can't tell if the 3-5 second delay is due to this server lag or due to the kanna nerf. Let's just hope it's all due to server lag. [/quote]

Usually the spawn is messed up for about 1-2 days after maintenance so this is normal.

Reply May 23, 2014
loxiona

@CherryTigers @Kannaspirator I can't speak for the maps/channels in windia, but for YMCK, Channel 1 has incredibly fast spawn intervals for mobs. Mob spawn intervals throughout the channel are nearly instant (maybe because it's our most populated channel, idk). On other channels it's usually not as fast, sometimes takes 2-5 seconds I think for a new wave of mobs to spawn.

This is with or without the use of kishin btw.

Reply May 23, 2014 - edited
CherryTigers

@Kannaspirator Honestly, I can't tell if the 3-5 second delay is due to this server lag or due to the kanna nerf. Let's just hope it's all due to server lag.

Reply May 23, 2014 - edited
loxiona

Kishin works by increasing the number of mobs allowed on the map. It does not affect the interval in which mobs are spawned, and has never affected it. Because it permits more mobs on the map, the map will push out more mobs at its spawn points per spawn interval.

The nerf that people complain about is hardly noticable on most maps. Kishin used to let you have 70% more mobs on the map. Now it is 50%. I personally don't see a difference at hoh or the map I farm event items at.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
vvatamelon

Wow it already got needed. I wonder how much more mobs it spawned because I bought kanna service today and the spawn rate was amazing. You are saying it was 2x more than what it is right now

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

@fairystories: Well, I should have clarified. The reason is there, but there needs to be some kind of justification for listing that change in an update and not adding ANY other changes to balance out the fact that they specifically targeted Kanna and made the class less useful.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
fairystories

[quote=DemoDango]It was nerfed recently for no good reason. Kannas are worth even less in training parties now (not that their services are any less desirable; just less expensive). It works in the whole map still, but the spawn enhancer was halved. In a future update, it might be removed completely--the spawn modifier effect has been completely erased in TaiwanMS.[/quote]

I think people who exploit Kishin's spawn effect is a pretty legit reason to nerf it. Kishin doesn't have the ability to deal out damage just so Kannas can leave it on an empty platform and stand around doing nothing for 4+ hours.

Just throwing that out there.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

It was nerfed recently for no good reason. Kannas are worth even less in training parties now (not that their services are any less desirable; just less expensive). It works in the whole map still, but the spawn enhancer was halved. In a future update, it might be removed completely--the spawn modifier effect has been completely erased in TaiwanMS.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
TTBlueRabbit135

It spawns the map, however it was nerfed recently. The mobs take longer to spawn now.

Reply May 21, 2014 - edited
vvatamelon

Alright perfect! Thanks for the reply

Reply May 21, 2014 - edited
fairystories

It affects the whole map.

Reply May 21, 2014 - edited