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Define funding?
Cause if you were able to cap dmg on all lines on BaM, it would be better than f/p regardless. BaMs has the most HPS (hits per second) next to like Kanna's vanq charm.
With a limited funding f/p would be farrrr greater.

Based on what most basilers are saying.. F/P mage is the way to go

did any of you think that the way elemental reset works for f/p mages on physical resist bosses, isnt the intended way elemental reset is supposed to be used. im saying battle mages shouldnt get a skill like this

Have to say I've switched from a thunder breaker to a battle mage and I'm enjoying it much more. while we might be slightly lack luster at bossing as everyone has stated are mobbing is amazing (( at least compared to my thunder breakers)). Only thing that is really off putting about the BaM is they only have a 1 matk multiplier but I guess with we make up for it in buffs. I've really been enjoying it but you also have to look at it this way BaM is a melee feeling class with very fast attack speed compared to the fp style which seems to be more magician esque.

fire mage> every class apart from maaybe dark knight and paladin

[quote=natty2]@xhyun: you can't "reset" physical.
every attack is either magic, or physical.
Otherwise, when the enemy does "Magic Block / Physical Block" you'd be able to ignore both.[/quote]
Every attack has an element. Some attacks are elements like Fire, Ice, Lightning, Poison, Holy, or Darkness. If it is not only of those elements, then it is tagged as the "Physical" element. The Physical element [i]is not[/i] the same as Physical damage.

[quote=MonkeyCraters]Mist eruption is powerful but it's slow af. And paralyze has better potential than flame haze&mist eruption just because it's a hell of a lot faster[/quote]
Paralyze has more potential because it is faster, so if you hit 50m on all lines reliably it would be better to use it over Haze and Eruption. However, it takes a lot more money to get that far.

@MonkeyCraters: I find FH+ME combo decently ok speed-wise.
It's not too slow, considering it's doing a good amount of lines, and damage per line, it can be usilized. it's not as slow as you describe it.

F/P win in end-game bossing by a looooong shot, but their mobbing is less then great
BaMs are arguably the 3rd best class to train with under Lumis and I/Ls because of their huge hitbox

OT: an F/P would benefit more from less funding

[quote=natty2]

OT:
F/P is supirior to BaM at bossing. Scratch that, F/P is supirior to MANY MANY classes when it comes to bossing. Mist Eruption is just THAT powerful.
However, F/P isn't good at all when it comes to mobbing, as setting DoTs on a mob is considered a horrible job, and requires too much time, so just spamming Paralyze to kill is the way to go, though Paralyze on it's own has a bit below "decent" damage.
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Mist eruption is powerful but it's slow af. And paralyze has better potential than flame haze&mist eruption just because it's a hell of a lot faster

[quote=natty2]Battle Mages need no elemental reset
BaMs have no element.

OT:
F/P is supirior to BaM at bossing. Scratch that, F/P is supirior to MANY MANY classes when it comes to bossing. Mist Eruption is just THAT powerful.
However, F/P isn't good at all when it comes to mobbing, as setting DoTs on a mob is considered a horrible job, and requires too much time, so just spamming Paralyze to kill is the way to go, though Paralyze on it's own has a bit below "decent" damage.
So BaM would be better if you're planning on training for the long run.
F/P is a fun class for bossing, it makes big challenges look funny.[/quote]

I know they have no element and I'm aware of that. But I'm just saying in the future Nexon is either determined to keep their elemental reset case with a majority of the bosses whilst giving the other classes some skill [passive] to compensate for their lack of damage or completely removing it. The former option if they are feeling nice.

@xhyun: you can't "reset" physical.
every attack is either magic, or physical.
Otherwise, when the enemy does "Magic Block / Physical Block" you'd be able to ignore both.

@natty2
we are a "physical" element and so our damage does get reduced. dunno why nexon made physical affected by it though....

[quote=SlyOne]F/P would be better off unless Battle Mages get some sort of Elemental reset skill when it comes to bossing.

They most likely will in the future.[/quote]

Battle Mages need no elemental reset
BaMs have no element.

OT:
F/P is supirior to BaM at bossing. Scratch that, F/P is supirior to MANY MANY classes when it comes to bossing. Mist Eruption is just THAT powerful.
However, F/P isn't good at all when it comes to mobbing, as setting DoTs on a mob is considered a horrible job, and requires too much time, so just spamming Paralyze to kill is the way to go, though Paralyze on it's own has a bit below "decent" damage.
So BaM would be better if you're planning on training for the long run.
F/P is a fun class for bossing, it makes big challenges look funny.

F/P damage wise, but Battle mages are horrible underated imo. I would still go with F/P because of shared adventurer CS though.

F/P would be better off unless Battle Mages get some sort of Elemental reset skill when it comes to bossing.

They most likely will in the future.