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Dark Flare, Chakra, Shield Mastery

Hi guys, I was reading some guides earlier and they all said to max dark flare
i accidentally maxed shield mastery, which means i can't max dark flare, leaving it at 18

my question is, is it worth taking dark flare to 18, then?
the guides here on basil said dark flare is only useful at max, when cooldown time = skill duration
does this mean i should dump points into chakra or something? or should i just use 18 dark flare with cooldown > skill duration?

February 3, 2012

7 Comments • Newest first

ksidirt

[quote=rhenXD]There is no way that 200-400 defense only takes off 20-40 damage. Look at Paladins, they have 9999 defense at max, does that mean it only takes off 999 damage? No
Sure they have Divine Shield and Achilles but together they do half of what meso guard does. That's not enough to even lower the damage dealt from monsters to 1 before defense.[/quote]

DW, you'll need that little extra bit occasionally, especially when a boss pot locks you and lowers your MP to 1 meaning you can't use chakra. Its a rare event, but the more you boss the more it happens.

Reply February 4, 2012
j0s3a4d

@rhenXD: Lol, it's the truth.
In the most basic of events, no skill nothing the damage done = Raw Damage - Defense/4.
With Meso Guard and Greed this formula becomes: Damage = (Raw Damage - Defense/4)*.4
Because MG+Greed make it so that only 40% of the damage goes into your HP.
If you expand this you get: Damage = Raw Damage*.4 - Defense*.4/4 = Raw Damage*.4 - Defense/10
Which means that after calculating MG+Greed, for each extra 10 defense, only 1 hit point is taken off your HP.

Reply February 4, 2012
rhenXD

[quote=j0s3a4d]@rhenXD: 200-400 defense equals to 20-40 Damage taken off after considering MG+Greed.
Meso Guard is always considered after every other damage-taking reduction.[/quote]

There is no way that 200-400 defense only takes off 20-40 damage. Look at Paladins, they have 9999 defense at max, does that mean it only takes off 999 damage? No
Sure they have Divine Shield and Achilles but together they do half of what meso guard does. That's not enough to even lower the damage dealt from monsters to 1 before defense.

Reply February 3, 2012
j0s3a4d

@rhenXD: 200-400 defense equals to 20-40 Damage taken off after considering MG+Greed.
Meso Guard is always considered after every other damage-taking reduction.

Reply February 3, 2012
aaronthecow

Doesn't really matter,flare is pretty worthless and I never use it cept in like pvp ,which non maxed is fine for.

Reply February 3, 2012
ksidirt

Take the two points out of assaulter. You don't use it enough for the tiny extra damage to matter.

Reply February 3, 2012
rhenXD

It depends on how you want to go.
If you're sure you will use dark flare right after it expires then go ahead. Dark flare is really useful in parties, especially against bosses that 1/1 a lot. Too bad it doesn't de-aggro monsters anymore, that was a plus.

Shield mastery on the other hand is different. If you max it, you get 100%+ defense. A shadower on average has around 1000-1200 defense by the time they reach 4th job. Lvl8 and 10 shield mastery have a 20% difference. That should be around 200-400 defense, which is 200-300 damage taken off. If you factor in meso guard, that can go many ways. It either blocks 50% damage first then takes off 200-300 damage OR takes off 200-300 damage, then blocks 50% damage.

Overall, it's offense vs defense. Your pick

Reply February 3, 2012 - edited