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@Escy: I was getting 60k-100k per kill with a priest and 4 other DB's earlier. My damage range is like 4k-5.2k (With bless)

Lol. A weak shad getting one of the most, if not the most, exp in a party. xD I got roughly 112%/hr just now though, but really depends on your party.

But my ideal party is
-Priest
-4 DBs (4th job) Their thorns + spamming of chains is just crazy. The damage coming from the Crockys look like hacker damage xD we finish off a mob of 2-4 in about ~30 seconds.
-Me

[quote=Gfarce]What i really dont get is why some people INSIST on mobbing everything to the right. Then the mob always ends up in the middle and everyone gets mad.[/quote]

Use SB to rush golems to the left if you don't have enough coins to knockback with ME. Problem solved. Those who try to push mobs to the right tend to give up.

Gear is very significant there. My girlfriend was once getting double the exp another Shad of her level was - their "control" was the same, they fought mobs together, and neither was any laggier or w/e than the other, my girlfriend just had much better gear. xD

@j0s3a4d: well i wasnt counting the coins from bs
just sb and bot

[quote=iLoveForHer]

Anyway! Yeah depending on where ya train - great control can solve anything! A lot of people dislike Castle Golems because of the knockback, but there are ways to counter it! Just have a warrior rush a mob into a corner and just get mass amount of mesos and BOOMBOOMBOOM! BS+BoT is good during a mob/BS+SB is great on single targets Just be sure of your meso flow![/quote]

Avoiding the KB is as simple as constantly jumping whilst attacking, and ME is auto KB anyway when you're not gathering coins. Just how is your control good to be relying on another classes' rushing is beyond me.

[quote=SinghNinja]bs + bot is overated
when its 1-2 mosnters i always bs + sb and when im at the bottom plat and i have 3 bearwovles rushed in the left corner i usually use bs+sb just cuz it drops double the coins as bs + bot, its alot faster to kill them with m.e then it is to bs + bot and then m.e
but on other plats when i see 3 i usually bs + bot and for mobs of 4 or more i always bs + bot[/quote]

When there are 3 Mobs B-Step + SB doesn't drop twice as many coins as B-Step + BoT.
B-Step on 3 Mobs ->3*2=6 hits
Savage Blow -> 6 hits
BoT on 3 Mobs -> 3 hits
So with SP B-Step + SB on 3 Mobs does 24 Hits which translates to an average of 19.2 coins per B-Step + SB.
With SP B-Step + BoT on 3 Mobs does 18 Hits which translates to an average of 14.4 coins per B-Step + BoT.
If you do the complete math you will see that when there are 3+ Mobs BoT >> SB.
When there are 2 Mobs to Explode, SB might be a bit better, but I find BS+BoT easier to control 2 mobs, although most of the time when there are only 2- mobs in LHC I attack them once and go to look for a platform with 3+ mobs.

bs + bot is overated
when its 1-2 mosnters i always bs + sb and when im at the bottom plat and i have 3 bearwovles rushed in the left corner i usually use bs+sb just cuz it drops double the coins as bs + bot, its alot faster to kill them with m.e then it is to bs + bot and then m.e
but on other plats when i see 3 i usually bs + bot and for mobs of 4 or more i always bs + bot

PFFT what do YOU know about GREAT controll >:O...... -3- ur controll is too GODLY to becalled GREAT >
[quote=iLoveForHer]I love training there! The only thing that REALLY and I mean REALLY bugs me is seeing other Shadowers who have PP on but.. Just let the mesos sit there T.T What's the point! Kinda makes me feel uneasy knowing those mesos are never going to be "exploded"! Maybe I'm just being a major nerd about it, but come on! Maybe these new-age Shadowers need to learn a lesson or two >:3

Anyway! Yeah depending on where ya train - great control can solve anything! A lot of people dislike Castle Golems because of the knockback, but there are ways to counter it! Just have a warrior rush a mob into a corner and just get mass amount of mesos and BOOMBOOMBOOM! BS+BoT is good during a mob/BS+SB is great on single targets Just be sure of your meso flow![/quote]

I love training there! The only thing that REALLY and I mean REALLY bugs me is seeing other Shadowers who have PP on but.. Just let the mesos sit there T.T What's the point! Kinda makes me feel uneasy knowing those mesos are never going to be "exploded"! Maybe I'm just being a major nerd about it, but come on! Maybe these new-age Shadowers need to learn a lesson or two >:3

Anyway! Yeah depending on where ya train - great control can solve anything! A lot of people dislike Castle Golems because of the knockback, but there are ways to counter it! Just have a warrior rush a mob into a corner and just get mass amount of mesos and BOOMBOOMBOOM! BS+BoT is good during a mob/BS+SB is great on single targets Just be sure of your meso flow!

holy crap i never knew my thread would be this popular lol so im 118 now and i get like 10k+ per kill then like 20-30k party exp o-o
am i doing something wrong

[quote=Dhaos]well considering that i hit 15k meso bags and 140k assaulter, id say i do pretty good at lhc for a lv 116.[/quote]

what are ur equips and range thts like 3x wut i do

well considering that i hit 15k meso bags and 140k assaulter, id say i do pretty good at lhc for a lv 116.

i dont use ME+PP at all, besides zak

I have to say, fellow shadowers: blow your mesos up for pete sake. It is normal for mesos to collect in corners and that's okay, but almost all of the shadowers I've trained with use ME entirely too infrequently. The whole ground is littered with coins, and I can't see my own. It is to the point that I just don't PP/ME when I party with my own class.

who care where mob get push back they die before they even moved hahhahaa thats how awesome shads are

bera xxnubkillerx

@SoloZX: no, you need people circling, or staying stationary on certain part of the map so that everyone kills at around even times, even if they have crapy ranges. say for instance theres 1 drk eith 24k range, one with 8k and one with 16 k. you have the 8 and 16 work together on circling the map so that the killing speed and spawn speed up.That was just an example, but does that make any sense?

Two maxed Assassinates = 1 kill. Maybe around 20 seconds total. That's just for killing 1. If you want to mob, BStep is actually really amazing, and if you mix it with a BoT, and then later Meso Explosion, you've got yourself a hefty sum of damage!

I think we are one of the best at LHC.
But thats only if you know how to use ME at the right time.

i do bs+sb macro so i dont get knocked back as much, with a few sb every now and then. i think its more efficient this way.. and when someone rushes more mobs in or when u have enough mesos to explode until mob dies, spam me.

I recommend using B-Step + BoT, rather than B-Step + SB, and if there is only one mob, attack it once and move to a diff platform with more mobs.
Oh and we Shadowers are so smexy at LHC as long as you are not a noob Shadower that can't control ME, and doesn't know to KB to the left.

[quote=iR0cKtHeBl0cK]1) Shadower.
2) Bishop.
3) Dark Knight/ Hero.
4) Corsair/ Buccaneer.
5) Bow Master / Marksman.
6) Dual Blader.

Having a blend of one of the best jobs in each class is what you're looking after. (Y)[/quote]

think he ment Macro..

[quote=icyvintura]can some one give me best combo to use at LHc .. im about to open a UA shade...[/quote]
Not 100% sure, but I think BoT+BS+ME is the best combo.

I can kill stuff in 2-3 hits at LHC with assassinate (max lvl tho o-o) o.0 I have only 36% luck, like 8xxx-11xxx range, no godly equips, no boss % stuff, lvl 0 MW, and don't use atk pots :o

Anytime I'm in a party at LHC, even if others are higher leveled, I always get the most exp for the party lmao.
Also do... 45-65k x2 and 20-40k x2 per bstep (?)

[quote=SoloZX]lol whatt, how in the world do you get over 35% an hour on 1x? Are you the only one killing?[/quote]

he said per 2 hours

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgorVKWe9Pw&feature=channel_video_title]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgorVKWe9Pw&feature=channel_video_title[/url]
Quite good.

I get 37-50% per 2 hours at lhc at my level on 1x. Thats because i utilize bot+bs+me to their fullest potential. I hate seeing nub shads with pp on, that do not even know how to use it correctly.... makes me absolutely sick. Use assasinate for single mobs(for 1-2hko) and the previous combo for everything else. use kb to your advantage also

[quote=Doseeeee]hour every 45 mins in bearwolves at 124.[/quote]

We know what you mean, but....an hour every 45 minutes = godly time flux.

[quote=xOhhRoy]Your not really great unless you have at least more then 20% luk, because youll only see your max bs doing 20 k on each hit. but with 20+% more luk you will see you doing at least 40k and 15k meso explodes[/quote]

I barely have any % luk and I do way more. W.att is where it at.

Meso Explosion is heavenly at LHC.

One of the best at LKC

obviously you aren't going to do much at LKC if you're not even 4th job yet