4th Job Chaos Skill Build
[header]Summary[/header]
Here's a preview or possibly the full version of the 4th Job build for my guide in the future. Many people asked/pm me for it but I didn't start working on it till later. It was interesting working on it. Since well it was new and different. I kind of had a fun working on it. Well here's to the people that asked and to the people patiently waiting. Anyways here's a small explanation for Dual Blades 4th Job currently and then Chaos afterward.
[b]BTW THIS IS A DRAFT![/b] ---> Please read before posting. <----
[header]Explanation[/header]
[b]Dual Blades Post Big Bang:[/b] One of the reasons why Dual Blade's build differs from the rest of the 4th Job classes is because the build is so easy. So straight forward and simple. Max Thorns, Max Final Cut, Max whatever next. Simple yeah? There's no stopping anywhere. It's basically maxing this skill, then this, then this. A Dual Blade's potential is reached faster than the rest of the classes where their build for bossing/training is hit at later levels such as 15x - 16x +. You can easily tell which skill is better and which skill is useless where for other classes, most of their skills have a purpose or will be added later or stop at a certain point for best use. While DBs have barely Thorns, Final Cut, Chains of Hell, Venom, and maybe a point in MT. Pretty much it.. Dual Blade's 4th job was simple but that changes after Chaos Update.
[b]Dual Blade Chaos Update:[/b] With more skills after Chaos Update and other skill changes. Dual Blade's 4th job build changes drastically. Before Dual Blades potential to boss/train was easily reach but now they have to hit even more levels to truly unlock all of it. Their build isn't so simple now too where you don't just simply max one skill and move onto the next. You have to mix it around to where the level of that skill is most useful during your own level.
[header]4th Job Training Build[/header]
Please remember this is more of a draft and not the final version. I create the build so please do not post it in other sites and take credit for yourself. Thanks. Anyways, the is a draft or possibly the real version. I'm posting this here to get opinions from people since I'm not 100% sure, probably 90% or 95% sure this build is good for players all around. Well funded or average funded. Well onward ho ~
[b]Level 120:[/b] 1 Thorns, 1 Blade Fury, 1 MT
[b]Reasons:[/b]
Level 1 Thorns provide a 1 attack bonus and a 32% stance like effect. What thorns is best used for is not it's attack but it's stance like features. Which will overall increase exp per hour/Damage per minute or second. 1 Blade Fury to help kill mobs and more combos. At level 1 it hits 3 times, 3 monsters. 1 Mirror Target is strange right? It gives 10% dodge rate at level 1. After Chaos Update, the avoid system is changed making our misses miss even more so MT will have a better effect for us. Add that to our stance capabilities and MT's dodge rate as well as defense. It will really help with training overall. Since our stance effect chance is small, MT will sort of help balance it for now. Other players that are funded with luk % do not have to add it since luk % gives plenty of avoid but even then, it still helps.
[b]Thorns' Description:[/b] Gives you a increase of attack and a stance like effect. Not a party skill and requires mastery book to boost level 10 to level 30.
[i]Level 1:[/i] - 40 MP, 90 seconds of +1 attack and 32% chance to not be knocked back.
[i]Level 10:[/i] - 50 MP, 130 seconds of +10 attack and 50% chance to not be knocked back.
[i]Level 20:[/i] - 70 MP, 170 seconds of +20 attack and 70% chance to not be knocked back.
[i]Level 30:[/i] - 90 MP, 210 seconds of +30 attack and 90% chance to not be knocked back.
[b]Blade Fury's Description:[/b] Attacking in a rotation with your two weapons hitting a mob of monsters.
[i]Level 1:[/i] - 40 MP, attack up to 3 monsters 3 times for 136% damage
[i]Level 10:[/i] - 45 MP, attack up to 4 monsters 3 times for 145% damage
[i]Level 20:[/i] - 55 MP, attack up to 5 monsters 3 times for 155% damage
[i]Level 30:[/i] - 65 MP, attack up to 6 monsters 3 times for 165% damage
[b]Mirror Target's Description:[/b]Permanently increases the chance of the defense and evasion. Also sacrifice mirror image to create a alter ego as a puppet. You can still use mirror image.
[i]Level 1:[/i] An active effect: - MP 60, 15 seconds of summoning a dummy with 400 HP .
Passive Effect: 10% chance to dodge an attack and an increased by 2% physical defense and magic defense
[i]Level 10:[/i] - 85 MP, 40 seconds of summoning a dummy with 4000 HP
Passive Effect: 15% chance to dodge an attack and an increase of 20% physical defense and magical defense
[i]Level 20:[/i] - 115 MP, 65 seconds of summoning a dummy with 8000 HP
Passive Effects: 21% chance to dodge an attack and increased of 44% physical defense and magic defense
[i]Level 30:[/i] - 135, 90 seconds of summoning a dummy with 12000 HP
Passive Effects: 25% chance to dodge an attack and a increase of 60% physical defense and magic defense
[b]Level 121:[/b] 1 Phantom Blow, 2 Sharpness
[b]Level 122:[/b] 3 Sharpness
[b]Level 123:[/b] 3 Sharpness
[b]Level 124:[/b] 2 Sharpness, 1 Thorns
[b]Level 125:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 126:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 127:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 128:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 129:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 130:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Points In Skills So Far:[/b]
1 Mirror Target
1 Phantom Blow
1 Blade Fury
10 Sharpness (Maxed)
20 Thorns
[b]Reasons:[/b]
1 Phantom blow out of the blues. For those that don't boss or plan to just have a training build. Phantom Blow will actually help at times. It's more about diversity where you can still have a training build and use level 1 Phantom Blow to boss every now and then. Level 1 Phantom Blow beats Chain of Hell even at level 30. Max sharpness afterward for more crit rate and better exp per hour and dpm/dps. Level 20 thorns afterward for a increase of +20 attack and 70% chance of stance like effect. I was thinking of leaving it at 10 since it'll be 50% chance, then I was thinking 15 for 60% chance but I believe 70% is a overall better number. You won't get hit often, and add that with MT's dodge rate and your avoid. It's okay to leave it at 20 or even lower if you prefer but I suggest 70% and a +20 attack is pretty good.
[b]Sharpness's Description:[/b] Increases the success rate of critical attack damage and minimum critical damage.
[i]Level 1:[/i] 7% probability of a critical attack, critical minimum damage increased by 2%
[i]Level 10:[/i] 25% chance of critical attacks, critical minimum damage increased by 20%
[b]Level 131:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 132:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 133:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 134:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 135:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 136:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 137:[/b] 1 Blade Fury, 2 Thorns
[b]Level 138:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 139:[/b] 3 Thorns
[b]Level 140:[/b] 1 Thorns, 2 Final Cut
[b]Points In Skills So Far:[/b]
1 Mirror Target
1 Phantom Blow
20 Blade Fury
10 Sharpness (Maxed)
30 Thorns (Maxed)
2 Final Cut
[b]Reasons:[/b]
Level 20 Blade Fury hits 5 monsters 3 time. Even though having max thorns help, having a higher level of Blade Fury is better in my opinion. Why? I've been through these levels before and the monsters are a lot stronger. You max thorns later on for better stance effect. And for the best exp, you need to rush monster with FATS, Flying Assaulter + Tornado Spin, which will mob up to mostly 4 - 5 monsters mostly. Such places like Lycanthrope, Rextons, Green Cornians, and etc. The map is pretty well awesome for Blade Fury. This is also the beginning of maxing Final Cut later on. Final Cut doesn't give 25% increase of damage for other skills like Big Bang's Final Cut does (No proof but I think I'm right) and it only gives 140% increase of damage so it's better to max it later on.
[b]Final Cut's Description:[/b] Consumes a large amounts of HP and creates a buff that increases your damage plus an instant death rate.
[i]Level 1:[/i] - 150 MP, consumes 45% HP, Attacks up to 8 monsters with 1420% Damage. 1% chance of instant death, an increase of 111% damage for 10 seconds, cool down 148 seconds.
[i]Level 10:[/i] - 200 MP, consumes 40% HP, Attacks up to 8 monsters with 1600% Damage. 5% chance of instant death, an increase of 120% damage for 19 seconds, cool down 130 seconds.
[i]Level 20:[/i] - 300 MP, consumes 30% HP, Attacks up to 8 monsters with 1800% Damage. 10% chance of instant death, an increase of 130% damage for 28 seconds, cool down 110 seconds.
[i]Level 30:[/i] - 400 MP, consumes 20% HP, Attacks up to 8 monsters with 2000% Damage. 15% chance of instant death, an increase of 140% damage for 40 seconds, cool down 90 seconds.
[b]Level 141:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 142:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 143:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 144:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 145:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 146:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 147:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 148:[/b] 3 Final Cut
[b]Level 149:[/b] 1 Final Cut, 2 Blade Fury
[b]Level 150:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 151:[/b] 3 Blade Fury
[b]Level 152:[/b] 1 Blade Fury, 2 Phantom Blow or 2 Mirror Target/2 Venom
[b]Points In Skills So Far:[/b]
1 - 2 Mirror Target (Depends on build)
1 - 3 Phantom Blow (Depends on build)
30 Blade Fury
10 Sharpness (Maxed)
30 Thorns (Maxed)
30 Final Cut (Maxed)
0 - 2 Venom (Depends on build)
[b]Reasons:[/b]
Here we max Final Cut and start to train even faster at these levels where most of our skills are maxed. And at these levels is where it gets even harder but luckily we have final cut. Helping us dish out more damage and gain more exp per hour. The chance of instance death is within the buff time duration which is why it's okay to max Final Cut before Blade Fury. Afterward we max Blade Fury to hit 6 monsters 3 times. Why so late? Level 20 will actually do pretty well even at that level. After level 152 is where it depends on the player. Do you prefer more damage? More defense? Want bossing capabilities? Lots of choices.
[b]Phantom Blow's Description:[/b] Create a fatal attack to a monster up to 6 times very quickly.
[i]Level 1:[/i] - 30 MP, attacks 6 times with 76% damage ignoring 20% of the monsters' defense
[i]Level 10:[/i] - 30 MP, attacks 6 times with 85% damage ignoring 20% of the monsters' defense
[i]Level 20:[/i] - 30 MP, attacks 6 times with 95% damage ignoring 20% of the monsters' defense
[i]Level 30:[/i] - 30 MP, attacks 6 times with 105% damage ignoring 20% of the monsters' defense
[header]4th Job Bossing Build[/header]
A bossing build in my opinion is having your skills to fit a bossing situation earlier than usual. So you'll be training via bossing to gain your levels. Such as Pap/Zakum/Scar/Tar for instance. This build isn't that different from the training build. You merely switch Blade Fury's level with Phantom Blow's Level. Up there, you max Blade Fury before Phantom Blow. Switch Blade Fury with Phantom Blow. You'll still have level 1 Blade Fury however for mobbing purposes. There's no huge section for bossing since you pretty much get the entire point. You can still train effectively with a bossing build. Isn't that great for you future bossers? Like a boss.
[header]More Information[/header]
Don't worry about 3rd Job and lower, the build is quite easy since everything is maxed and pretty much the same as Big Bang. Anyways this is just a guide. You don't follow it completely but get a general idea of how a build is like for fourth job. Since Chaos isn't out yet, it's not 100% true but more like 95%. I am pretty confident though that this is how the build's like. If you have any comments/opinions to add. Say so here and I'll add it up here. After Chaos comes out. I'll have a even better idea of a build. So help me to help you.
If you want any more information. Do not PM me but reply here in my other thread. "The True Ultimate Dual Blade Guide." Other people can help as well. I may help out a lot but I'm not the best. There's other people with more ideas about Dual Blades but I'm more willing to help than most. They do have their generous days however. Anyways this is pretty much it. Hope you guys enjoy reading it. Thank you. ~
[header]Added Information[/header]
Level 1 blade fury > Upperstab but Blade Fury doesn't replace it. Upperstab is used before Blade Fury as a combo at times.
Level 1 Phantom Blow > CoH + FB.
Unsure whether or not Final Cut's passive effect is removed but most likely it is.
86 Comments • Newest first
[quote=Ekrerer]ehhhh shoudnt you just like leave MT at 5-10 for a normal avoidivity? leave it at lvl 1-2 sounds stupid since we DBs have low hp and LHC monsters hit hard and do you need to get blade furry skill or it appears in your skill book in chaos?[/quote]
Uhm, this is a rough draft. I said most builds will look like it. You can add whatever MT, although it's not suggested till later since 1 point in MT = Automatically 10% dodge. And a automatic 1/10 moves are a miss. Anyways after Chaos, the avoid system will be back in Chaos. Similar to Pre Big Bang's avoid rate system. Anyways, Blade Fury has a mastery of level 10. You don't need a skill book but you will need a level 30 mastery book. Which you can get via buying it in Cash Shop or buying the 50% mastery book with meso or etc.
[quote=aimory1]Ren, im thinking of doing my skills in this order
Sharpness>Blade FURRAH>Phantom Blow>Venom>Whatever else(with 1 MI tossed in there)
Reason for no thorns-New avoid system+10% from MI should cover it[/quote]
You meant MT. I guess if you want to boss early, it's helpful. Although the new avoid system only allows players who are funded with lots of luk% to be able to avoid most of the time.
Ren, im thinking of doing my skills in this order
Sharpness>Blade FURRAH>Phantom Blow>Venom>Whatever else(with 1 MI tossed in there)
Reason for no thorns-New avoid system+10% from MI should cover it
[quote=stanley22]@x3Ren: If they stack shouldn't we max that out first? It would help us in our training more.[/quote]
Would you want % damage over attack damage? % damage does more which then leads you to leveling faster. It's left at 20 for stance reason and 20 attack buff. Blade Fury is definitely perfect to max before thorns.
@x3Ren: If they stack shouldn't we max that out first? It would help us in our training more.
[quote=blackstabbeth]Ren, how is the accuracy system changing in Chaos?[/quote]
Instead of 5% miss rate each level that's higher than yours, it's 2%.
Big Bang:
Level 40 fighting a level 50 = 50% Hit rate
Chaos:
Level 40 fighting a level 50 = 80% hit rate
[quote=x3Ren]Nope. Blade Fury requires a mastery book. Phantom blow requires a skill book. Auto 30.[/quote]
thanks
[quote=cyborax]hey an someone plz plz help me
do blade fury and phantom blow need to have any other skills maxed?
i.e. like how adv dark sigt needs lvl 10 dark sight[/quote]
Nope. Blade Fury requires a mastery book. Phantom blow requires a skill book. Auto 30.
hey an someone plz plz help me
do blade fury and phantom blow need to have any other skills maxed?
i.e. like how adv dark sigt needs lvl 10 dark sight
[quote=vietzx]Wait, so if I was in lhc, would you recommend blade fury or phantom blow? Because I see alot of kms videos with people fighing only 1 or 2 mobs at a time and of course, phantom blow > blade fury in terms of dps, what do you recommend?[/quote]
Read the build? I pick the build base on training areas.
[quote=stanley22]Hey i would i like to know if thorns stacks with att pots such as apples and stuff. Another great guide by the purple guy who boomed his dagger. We would celebrate on the day u fully come back to ms.[/quote]
Yes they do stack.
Hey i would i like to know if thorns stacks with att pots such as apples and stuff. Another great guide by the purple guy who boomed his dagger. We would celebrate on the day u fully come back to ms.
Wait, so if I was in lhc, would you recommend blade fury or phantom blow? Because I see alot of kms videos with people fighing only 1 or 2 mobs at a time and of course, phantom blow > blade fury in terms of dps, what do you recommend?
[quote=ItzATrapp]Would you recommend marcoing Upperstab and BF together? I know that macroing two attacks together doesn't always work. But I feel like my keyboard for my DB is going to get cluttered even more in the future.[/quote]
If you'll be training in LHC, you won't need US since you can't push the monsters up. So you'll be using only FATSBS, to rush them to a side and spam Blade Fury.
[quote=x3Ren]THANK YOU. That guy doesn't get it. The passive effect is removed based on the information I got for the skills. It's not included anywhere. So it's okay to max it later.
@ Other People
Anyways FC at level 1 only lasts 10 seconds? And it has a cool down of 140 something seconds. And the boost isn't that great either. Blade Fury isn't maxed early, it stops at level 20. Then you max Final Cut and max BF afterward. Remember that this is a guide, you don't have to follow it and Chaos isn't even out. This is only a general idea of what a build would look like.
Blade Fury is stronger than Upperstab because it hits 3 times pretty fast even at level 1. 136% damage x 3 > Upperstab level 20. The mob US hits is more but you can use both remember. Upperstab + BF combo.[/quote]
Would you recommend marcoing Upperstab and BF together? I know that macroing two attacks together doesn't always work. But I feel like my keyboard for my DB is going to get cluttered even more in the future.
[quote=iiukdit]sweeeeeeeeeeeet [/quote]
I know right? :]
@elmi102
Yes. xD
@Zeratul777
Not really. You'll do more damage mobbing so killing 1 by 1 isn't very good exp compared to training with Blade Fury at LHC. Unless you're very funded but even then, it's even more better with Blade Fury.
Thanks mate. Reading guides for the 'future' keeps me motivated to play my DB.
[quote=PublicHero]I have a few questions and I'd really like you to answer them please.
1) Will there be a Blade Fury Cash Shop Book in place of Sudden Raid
2) Should I buy Thorns via mesos or NX
3) Does sharpness require a mastery/skill book?
Thank you in advance![/quote]
1. Most likely they will.
2. NX one has 100% success rate and an extra sp point. And the price of Thorn books will increase when Chaos lands. Since everybody will believe DBs will be bandwagon, overpowered, and etc.
3. Sharpness won't need a skill book and it has a mastery of 10 already. So it'll be weird of it does. xD
[quote=jojomany]Personally, my belief is that we are godly even if we don't get everything maxed b4 150-160 because our skills are so good, are DPS and %p/hr will be increased dramatically because of the new skills and so getting to 150-160 wont even be as hard as it would be now. Great guide. And personally, if you were 140 when chaos came, would you choose phantom blow or blade fury.[/quote]
I'm 150. I would choose Blade Fury. Helps train to 160, then max Phantom Blow within those level to boss with.
[quote=njt520]After Chaos.....4job Db must be lv 150+ to be good....[/quote]
Yep. We were considered OPed, pre big bang because we only needed two skills maxed to be good. Final Cut 2x damage, thorns 2x damage, that's 4x damage so even a newb can be strong. Now it's balanced. :]
[quote=felixfang]Final cuts instant death doesnt work at LHC does it?[/quote]
Nope. Sucks right? Lol.
[quote=Serakh]Correct.
Also according to Spadow's latest update from the KMS test server, it looks like Flashbang is getting nerfed [/quote]
Actually, it's not really nerfed. Think of it this way, the cooldown is 50 seconds, so that's basically a extra 20% dodge for us and for party members. Good for LHC and bossing. Add that with max MT, 45% dodge at all times plus our avoid rate is back. That's a lot of misses.
[quote=airships]You may have already answered this, I didn't read through all 8 pages. Why put points in final cut so late?[/quote]
Uhm. You didn't had to read through 8 pages, just read the comment above yours. Rofl.
Anyways, Blade Fury's level 1 attack percentage is 136. Level 30 is 165. Difference of attack percentage is 29%. The skills we'll be spamming is Blade Fury. If you're going grinding build, max Blade Fury beats Final Cut since you'll be spamming it in LHC more. And FINAL CUT gives you 140% or a added bonus of 40% more damage for 40 seconds max. So 29% vs 40%. Obviously 40% is better but it takes 30 levels to max Final Cut and it only allows you 40% half of the time while maxing Blade Fury gives you 29% more damage all the time. So it's better to max Blade Fury since it's the only skill you'll be maxing.
If you're going phantom blow build. You max Phantom Blow before Final Cut as well. Since level 1 = 76% ignore def, and level 30 is 105% ignore def, all the time instead of half the time you're bossing. They balanced Final Cut. Only thing that sucks about Final Cut is its passive effect. Chance of instant kill. Oh yeah, works wonder in LHC. *Sarcasm*
[quote=Noesis]final cut by far does more for your average damage than any other skill, and should be maxed first.[/quote]
Really? Lets see it adds 40% more damage at max level of 30 right? That's 30 skill points you can use for something else more effective. What skill will you be using mostly? Hm lets see. Blade Fury. So it's really Blade Fury vs Final Cut. If you raise Blade Fury to a certain level, that's more than 40% damage all the time vs 1/3 of the time. And we also need thorns too for stance and add with that additional attack. It'll be > than Final Cut. Because Blade Fury hits 3 times, add that with mirror image, that's a huge chance of critting since mirror image crits now. Blade Fury does more compared to Final Cut so Final Cut should be maxed later on. Not right away.
aye my bad i meant to say if you have points in COH will it automatcially turn to PB come chaos patch?- Dear lord I hope so, getting COH was a pain i dont want to repeat
[quote=itzJav]on a 1on1 situation does lv 1 pb beat lv 20 bf?[/quote]
Yeah.
@Hanate,
Rough draft.
[quote=wolfzfang]when should we add vital steal?[/quote]
This is 4th Job. Not 3rd, not 2nd, not first.
[quote=therebegold]hmm the question then becomes if we have points in thorns, wil we get PB automatically? ala heroes brandish/interpid slash. Also anyoe know if PB is only from zak or other bosses as well?[/quote]
You probably won't have Phantom Blow unless you have Chains of Hell right now. If you got the skill book for Chains of Hell right now and use it. It'll be changed into Phantom Blow after Chaos Patch. And it's only from Zak but there's mystery books that can change into PB.
hmm the question then becomes if we have points in thorns, wil we get PB automatically? ala heroes brandish/interpid slash. Also anyoe know if PB is only from zak or other bosses as well?
[quote=Hanate]I keep counting up to 29 on Thorns D: I know its just a rough draft, but Its bugging me I have no idea if I am counting wrong X_X and 27 on Final Cut.[/quote]
I made a mistake. Realize a while ago. Too lazy to fix it but people get the general idea.
[quote=gangstakid5]ok thanks for clarifying because the way u got it written in the guide above.... It seems to me that is 25% cance of hitting 5% critical rate cuz it says +25% probabilty of hitting critical where as thorns now says raises critical rate by +20%.... This probably doesn't make sense to u and doesn't really make a bit of sense to me either.... Lol I guess im jus havin a slow moment... We all have them.. So cool 30% crit, 30 weapon atk, and stance! Sweet! Can't wait[/quote]
Yep. It's my fault. I should have said "added" but I thought it was common knowledge.
[quote=OojamesOo]I'm sorry if i did not see it but does Thorns stack with attk pots/buffs?[/quote]
Yes, it does stack. :]
[quote=therebegold]hmm good info. I do wonder though the new skills like sharpness/PB will we get them automatically or will we have to zak or kill whatever for the skill books? PB and BF look just amzing to use and if I have to zak to even put a point in the skill I wil be dissapointed. I dont mind hunting the mastery books but please tell me PB/BF come free![/quote]
You can have Blade Fury up to level 10 without book but you need a skill book to obtain phantom blow. Skill book is to obtain, mastery is to increase level.
hmm good info. I do wonder though the new skills like sharpness/PB will we get them automatically or will we have to zak or kill whatever for the skill books? PB and BF look just amzing to use and if I have to zak to even put a point in the skill I wil be dissapointed. I dont mind hunting the mastery books but please tell me PB/BF come free!
ok thanks for clarifying because the way u got it written in the guide above.... It seems to me that is 25% cance of hitting 5% critical rate cuz it says +25% probabilty of hitting critical where as thorns now says raises critical rate by +20%.... This probably doesn't make sense to u and doesn't really make a bit of sense to me either.... Lol I guess im jus havin a slow moment... We all have them.. So cool 30% crit, 30 weapon atk, and stance! Sweet! Can't wait
[quote=GinSaan]I might go with this build but instead of raising Blade fury 3 everytime I lv I'll make it 2 blade and 1 phantom blow. Or better, I'll try to Lv to 15x to get both maxed[/quote]
Same here. I'm basically just leveling to a higher level and don't even have to worry about it. I only made this build for the fellow DBs. Since you agree with the build in a way, I'm pretty much satisfied. I'm glad it's not completely wrong.
I might go with this build but instead of raising Blade fury 3 everytime I lv I'll make it 2 blade and 1 phantom blow. Or better, I'll try to Lv to 15x to get both maxed
[quote=gangstakid5]ok so u kno how everyone's critical rate is at a base of 5%.... With max sharpness my critical rate will now be
30%?[/quote]
Yes. It raises it by 25%. 25 + 5 = 30.
ok so u kno how everyone's critical rate is at a base of 5%.... With max sharpness my critical rate will now be
30%?
[quote=gangstakid5]Just to be clear... Sharpness DOESN'T raise our critical rate but just raises the % of critical happening (if that makes sense) and the damage % of critical.?[/quote]
It raises crit rate which is the chances of a crit happening and minimum crit damage.
[quote=gangstakid5]Just to be clear... Sharpness DOESN'T raise our critical rate but just raises the % of critical happening (if that makes sense) and the damage % of critical.?[/quote]
I don't get it can you elaborate.
Just to be clear... Sharpness DOESN'T raise our critical rate but just raises the % of critical happening (if that makes sense) and the damage % of critical.?
[quote=timmy06]Nice guide once again, kudos to you [b]x3Ren[/b]. I was thinking of maxing Sharpness, Thorns, and Phantom Blow first. Somewhere along the way throw 1 or 2 points into Blade Fury and Final Cut. Would that be appropriate for someone that spends 70% of the time bossing and the other 30% grinding?[/quote]
That part of the build is in there. Section "4th Job Bossing Build" Pretty much what you just said. Funny right? Anyways in my opinion, it's better to train to a higher level before doing bossing but if someone really wants to boss, the build up there where you switch around Phantom Blow and Blade Fury is good enough.
[quote=x3Ren]I thought the same as you but I find it weird to "Instant Kill" when doing Final Cut. Why? 2000% damage will most likely kill most monsters in one hit.. so it'll be kind of useless right? Yeah. Which makes sense as to why it's only 40 seconds duration, and a high cool down and no other passive buff.[/quote]
Ahh nice reasoning. Makes a lot of sense when you put it that way. Thanks for clearing that up.
[quote=lilaznboi487]Are you sure about this? The way I read it I thought using the skill final cut itself gave the % chance for instant death. I like what you said better though :o
Edit: Nvm. After going over the description again I decided I was wrong
@Above
From the videos I have seen, I see Upper Stab being used by some fourth jobbers before finishing a monster (e.g. Using Upper Stab and then killing with Blade Fury for the extra damage). Since Blade Fury outdamages it and it can not knock up monsters at LHC though, It wouldn't be used there at all (Same for bossing). I'm guessing we will have enough points to max it anyway though so might as well get it.[/quote]
I thought the same as you but I find it weird to "Instant Kill" when doing Final Cut. Why? 2000% damage will most likely kill most monsters in one hit.. so it'll be kind of useless right? Yeah. Which makes sense as to why it's only 40 seconds duration, and a high cool down and no other passive buff.
[quote=BuGaK]Ren, can you answer this question: Will upper stab still be used for 4th job after the chaos update?[/quote]
Upperstab is still used because US still gives bonus of 70% damage when hitting it in the air. Perfect for comboing with Blade Fury in 4th Job. Pushing the monster up with Upperstab and finishing them as fast as you can with Blade Fury reduces chance of getting hit by attacks and does an extra 70% damage with Blade Fury. Since Blade Fury hits 3 times plus 3 mirror image. You're doing a lot of damage with that 70%.
[quote=x3Ren]Yeah it's removed. It makes sense though. Cause while you're in buff form, you have a chance for instant kill. It's kind of balanced out.[/quote]
Are you sure about this? The way I read it I thought using the skill final cut itself gave the % chance for instant death. I like what you said better though :o
Edit: Nvm. After going over the description again I decided I was wrong
@Above
From the videos I have seen, I see Upper Stab being used by some fourth jobbers before finishing a monster (e.g. Using Upper Stab and then killing with Blade Fury for the extra damage). Since Blade Fury outdamages it and it can not knock up monsters at LHC though, It wouldn't be used there at all (Same for bossing). I'm guessing we will have enough points to max it anyway though so might as well get it.
well i changed my mind since lhc i rather max blade fury. Sorry U were Right! =(.
yeah. stance+apple+bless is possible.
lol, my video again.
hamad, stop using me as a godlike example for bladers.
I messed up my build, but I am fixing it up now - currently maxing thorns.
this is what I did:
1 phantom blow, 1 thorns and 1 blade fury at 120.
for stance, 1v1 and a little mobbing.
then I maxed sharpness, and put into phantom blow, which is 20 now.
afterwards, I maxed final cut.
why? - my %/hr went through the roof at LHC. after I got more than 10 into final cut, I was swagging my way through 130-140.
and now I am maxing Thorns for the [b]stacking[/b] attack and stance.(that's right, thorns stacks with potions/rage and bless)
awesome guide. your build is the right way to go.
[quote=aimory1]final cuts passive effects are removed? Say whaaaa[/quote]
Yeah it's removed. It makes sense though. Cause while you're in buff form, you have a chance for instant kill. It's kind of balanced out.
[quote=andrewleung]I thought it was always once. The second one is mirror image.[/quote]
Since Upperstab is moved down to second job, it makes sense for it to only hit once without mirror image thus making Blade Fury stronger than it even at level 1. If it were to hit 2 times, it'll change how/when you'll max Blade Fury since you can just use Upperstab instead.
final cuts passive effects are removed? Say whaaaa
I will go
final cut , thorns , 10Blade fury , max PB.