Late Roman Republic vs the Us Of A
>> Corrupted Senate
>> Likes to spread their ideals (Romanization vs Democracy)
>> Hated
>> Likes to set up puppet states
>> Became a superpower after defeating a major player in the world affairs (Rome vs Carthage, and Macedonia, US vs Germany and USSR)
>> Likes to use their military to exert their dominance
>> Riots every 5 seconds.
I won't be surprised if the US of A becomes the Imperial States of America in like another 50 years
Edit: You know what's even scary? The Roman republic was founded after a Tyrant king was ousted. Does this sound familiar? Rome was founded Romulus, who became it's first monarch, as the US was originally founded by the monarch of the British kingdom....but after being ruled by a tyrant king, the Romans revolted, and offed the system of monarchy, as had the US originally did...
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[quote=sirkibblex2][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQoRXhS7vlU]The back of the US one dollar bill has that illuminati thing. Pyramids are usually thought as ancient, like the Romans (by people today I'm aware how old ancient egypt is compared to the romans). Roman is 2 letters away from Ramen. Ramen comes from Japan, 2 is in World War 2. Japan is the mastermind behind all of this.[/url][/quote]
[url=https://www.probe.org/rome-and-america/]I can post links too[/url] Face it, America is almost the modern equivalent of the Roman Empire/Republic. Egypt comparable to Rome? What a joke, the Romans hated the Egyptians. Do you know what they think of Cleopatra? A goddamed skank who wanted to become the queen of Rome by seducing Caesar.
[quote=momijii]and? Nazi Germany had virtually the same circumstances barring the riots and, arguably (since one could theoretically argue that Nazi Germany was just a corruption of the Weimar Republic) the overthrow of a monarch. not to mention their symbol is also, in addition to the swastika, an eagle. the eagle is more happenstance than anything since numerous countries and empires have used it as an emblem including, but not limited to, Imperial Russia, the Spanish Empire, Saladin, and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.[/quote]
See this is where you are wrong. The fact is the foundation of the US was partly based off the Roman Republic, with a mixture of other elements. The founding fathers expected that US to not become like Roman Empire because they did not believe the US would become dominant enough to compete against the European empires nor did they believe the US would repeat the path the Romans took, but they were wrong. The US took a path similar to Romans did they not? Did the US not take over territories belonging to "barbarians" otherwise, the Native Americans, believing they had the rights to do so? Look at where we are now? We are military might which likes to spread its influenced on weaker powers using democracy as an excuse for profits, as the Romans had did the same by using their mighty legions to spread "romanization" but in actuality just conquest for profits.
Furthermore, the formation of Nazi Germany was not even remotely closed to the formation of the Roman Republic or the US. The Kaiser was ousted since he lost the war against the allies, while the Republic was a puppet set up by the allies as a result of their victory. Nazi Germany became what it is because of how effed how the allies treated the Germans afterwards.
As for your other examples, not one of them were form similarly to how the Roman Republic came to be; they were merely influenced by the remnants of the Roman Empire.
> Imperial Russia --> King uses the title Czar based off Imperator Caesar, which was analogous to Emperor, as Augustus used the title Imperator Caesar. This applies to the word Kaiser as well
> Spanish Empire --> Spain or should I say Iberia was once a territory under Roman control, even their language Spanish traces its roots to Latin.
> Saladin --> The Romans conquered Egypt, Jerusalem, anatolia, Syria, and Mesopotamia, which were important territories later occupied by the Islamic empires. It's not strange if they were influenced by Roman culture.
Besides, I don't see what so bad about accepting the fact the US is similar to the Roman Empire. It's a privilege to be compared to greatest empire in history.
USA will still go down as one of the greatest human civilizations in history textbooks when we're all long dead.
A country/empire/nation/state has never had as much influence as America has had in its history.
The Roman empire was impressive but its influence only stretched so much- obviously due to the lack of globalization and technology.
[quote=xdwow]It's call creative thinking. And to add more to this, so we all know the US's bird is the Bald Eagle right? Guess what the Roman's imperial insignia is? The Aquila, the Eagle. The fact is the US and the Roman Empire is extremely similar. However it doesn't mean the US would fall like Rome since the causes of Rome's demise is things that are unique to her Era.[/quote]
and? Nazi Germany had virtually the same circumstances barring the riots and, arguably (since one could theoretically argue that Nazi Germany was just a corruption of the Weimar Republic) the overthrow of a monarch. not to mention their symbol is also, in addition to the swastika, an eagle. the eagle is more happenstance than anything since numerous countries and empires have used it as an emblem including, but not limited to, Imperial Russia, the Spanish Empire, Saladin, and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
[quote=momijii]you honestly need more tinfoil.[/quote]
It's call creative thinking. And to add more to this, so we all know the US's bird is the Bald Eagle right? Guess what the Roman's imperial insignia is? The Aquila, the Eagle. The fact is the US and the Roman Empire is extremely similar. However it doesn't mean the US would fall like Rome since the causes of Rome's demise is things that are unique to her Era.
you honestly need more tinfoil.
[quote=ecarina]Keep in mind that the Romans didn't have the United Nations. A large portion of America's power is due to the economy, so pissing off other powers (especially China) wouldn't lead to much. If anything, we'll absorb a bit of South America and call it a day, while making sure not to step on any other powerful countries' toes.[/quote]
Aye, but back in Rome's time, the Han Dynasty rivaled the Romans in terms of cultural and military influence...but they could never meet because between the 2 exist some mid - eastern empire that blocked the Romans from going further, (Pontus, Parthia, Sassanid, etc). The Roman's expansion east is actually the same reason the US tries to interfere with other countries; for monetary profits.
Keep in mind that the Romans didn't have the United Nations. A large portion of America's power is due to the economy, so pissing off other powers (especially China) wouldn't lead to much. If anything, we'll absorb a bit of South America and call it a day, while making sure not to step on any other powerful countries' toes.
I actually won't mind an Imperial States of America if it was me or Obama at the top. Fixing the healthcare system, busting the banks' arse, laying down those stupid far-rightist and smack them with a rotten tuna, enforce higher efficiency standards, etc.
the current system is so stagnant </3
if you don't study the past you are doomed to repeat it. At least the US will be known as the greatest empire of it's time
*queue sunglasses kappa emote*