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@Zippinbolts:
How would you know you cannot weigh a soul?
We don't know what a soul is made of.
Saying they don't exist because we can't weigh them doesn't make any sense. You don't know whether souls can be weighed or not. No one does.

Depends on if you're a ginger or not.

I think that when you die, if you did "good" when you go to heaven, if you were "bad", you go to hell.
I don't really see how we can prove that god does or doesn't exist if we don't know enough about him. I guess the same goes for faries and ghosts and even aliens.

I do not think there is any such thing as a soul. It would be nice if it were true, but there's no scientific evidence that it exists so I don't believe in it.

I believe in souls, and your body is just a vessel for your soul

@Kingsleh: Well if they lie about one thing, what makes you think they could telling the truth. I mean think about it they make a lie about that and need to back up the lie somehow so there are more lies in there
@Anissa130 I never read the Bible but I do know some parts are lies lol

Humans don't have souls, the end.

dont really believe we have 'souls'. just some sort of strange thing people came up with. we have brains and organs that keep us alive. if they stop then we stop thinking and functioning. cuz when u think about it, how does a pregnant woman give birth to 'a soul'? to me, they dont. they give birth to a newborn child with working organs which allows them to be alive.

i think when we die we just feel nothing. there might possibly not be a 'heaven' or 'hell' and so it could just two things that people have created to set boundaries on our moral backbone

@xNightlady: Here's a good rundown: http://www.truthaboutdeath.com/

Listen guys, don't even trust the Bible. Why? Because it said the Earth was created a few thousand years ago but it was actually made 13 billion years ago. As in, the Bible lies so I don't think we have souls. Once you die you lose consciousness forever or you begin a new journey through consciousness because when you sleep you can still have dreams.

[quote=nefarious456]Agreed to an extent. There's a huge gap in confidence between the statements "I don't know" and " I'm almost certain". By saying "I don't know" Sam isn't [i]just[/i] covering his bases in the case that idealism or the brain in a vat hypothesis turn out to be true. He's demonstrating genuine intellectual honesty. That's what makes him brilliant and my personal favorite of the other 2 horsemen.[/quote]

I still disagree that he is uncertain in regards to death in the spiritual context. In the last talk he presented (Atheist convention) he constantly refereed to "If [b]we[/b] are right, then this right now is all we have.", and similar phrases. At least to me, this shows his stance on death is absolute.

Edit: I might post on his website/forum and perhaps clear this all up

No, I don't think we have "souls". When we die, we will be unconscious forever, never to wake up. Everything is black, nothing will happen. Our memories are not stored in these "souls", they are stored in our brain, and when that dies, we have nothing.

If souls are on spiritual form in the afterlife, how would one distinguish a soul from another? and there would have to be one for every living thing that existed on Earth since the begining and counting. So thats like trillions and trillions

@Snovvy:

Ah fair enough mate. I have recently been a tad over-zealous with watching shows/talks based on theistic debates and science/skepticism. One of my recent favourites has been the Intelligence2 debate on whether "The Catholic Church is a force for good" between an Arch Bishop and Conservative MP / Catholic convert and Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLtuD2CKY-U

@Criticism: the feeling's mutual. now stand still so i can soul spear you

@Snovvy:

Great summary mate. I think you hit the hammer right on the head stating that the minute uncertainties he has has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality/theistic point of view.

Did you have a chance to watch his talk? It's actually fairly entertaining.

[url=http://thebeautybrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/feet.jpg]I have two soles, beat that.[/url]

No. It's a thing religions have planted in your brain when you were young to try and keep you in line.

[quote=Aervas]I think a soul is little more than the collection of everything that makes up any individual. It is very special but does die along with the individual.[/quote]

Yes and no. If you look up the definition of soul, you would find it has characteristics like being eternal if you believe in a soul that is.

i'll tell you who don't have souls. gingers.

[quote=nefarious456]56 minutes man?
I know that Sam Harris believes death is the end. Agnosticism isn't some kind of go to stance for people that don't have beliefs. Just means that ultimately he treats death as an unknown. I'd like to think that all thinking, non-bigoted people take that position.[/quote]

His beliefs in terms of death are very clear if you watch the seminar, (yes I know it's long), but the entire purpose of the talk is how atheists (like-himself) need to approach death knowing that that's it. Final bow. Closing night. Roll credit

The way I see it it, it's basically the difference between theater and television, the difference between talking face-to-face and talking over a webcam. Putting all the technical differences aside (theater can't change shot types, webcams can't convey senses other than sight and sound), it's the human element that makes these mediums different. That humanness is what drives us to see musicians at concerts rather than just watch the concerts online. I don't know about all the afterlife stuff, but to me the soul is an aspect of design.

@Pistolekiss And my heart will...[i]go on, and on...[/i]

[quote=nefarious456]
He most definitely takes an agnostic stance on death.
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Talk at the 2012 Global Atheist Convention about dealing with death as an atheist. Definitely does not have an agnostic stance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTxTCz4Ums&feature=youtu.be

When it is 2015, the Third Impact will occur, thus awakening Lilith. She absorbs the Black Egg and the souls of every human that survived the Second Impact will be absorbed into it.

maybe, i just dont trustmyself

[quote=DrKiki]never knew you could know what happens, if you've never died before. weird.[/quote]

but really if you think about it scientifically, it would be true you just die nothing happens

[quote=PcPls123]Yeah I do believe I have one. After I die it dies. To me tho, my soul is the equiv of my conscious.

lol Doesn't snowy give the most boring answers, I'd swear he was a robot or something.[/quote]

well ive got the christian sense in that its the immortal part of us that makes us living. if we were a lightbulb the body would be the bulb, the soul would be the filament and the food we eat and the things we learn as we grow our electricity. so the soul to me is our conscience and emotions

as for snowy lol yea hes pretty smart and rambles a bit. dont really agree with him though

no soul.

I try not to worry too much about the afterlife. I mean i'm inevitably going (assuming there is one, and should there or shouldn't there I'll find out when it happens) there so why waste my precious time in my "current life worrying about it. eh?

I try not to think too much about mysticism. I have a scientific mind, so it kind of hurts sometimes to think about such deep, spiritual stuff.

[quote=tomshv]Actually there isn't according to science and all of the facts we have so far.
Chemicals and neurons, that is it basically assuming modern science is correct. And that is backed up by years of research and evidence, what you have is just a gut feeling.

Believing in heaven or hell, or that we have souls is okay, but [b]don't think your argument has any validity.[/b][/quote]

Couldn't have said it better.

[quote=3moRaccoon]@Llamaemon: Originality meaning between each of us, as humans. I don't believe animals or plants have souls.[/quote]

I know. What I'm trying to say is that in the viewpoint of lower beings (plants, animals), who don't have complex emotions, the existence of humans aren't perceivable to them, we're just another thing to them, but from our viewpoint we are one step higher then them. If there was anything higher than us we wouldn't be able to perceive it either just like a mouse can't perceive us as higher beings...now let's try to look into the POV of things that would be one step ahead of us humans we are just an insignificant creature to them...now let's try look at the POV of something billions of steps ahead of us (a universal POV) our supposedly "complex emotions" are like a rock is to a human...just a blob of nothingness. Looking at it from an infinite POV i just can't bring myself to believe in souls...

@Llamaemon: Originality meaning between each of us, as humans. I don't believe animals or plants have souls.

[quote=3moRaccoon]We got to heaven if we're good or hell if we're bad.

I don't get how anyone can believe that we don't have souls, though. What determines our originality? Chemicals and the brain? No. There's more to life than just a few elements tossed in with chemicals and water.[/quote]

Since when did humans have originality? From a universal viewpoint the "originality" between people are about as different as the originality between mice from a human viewpoint.

If God exists, so does your soul.

I don't think there are souls, it's all genetics that influence how we feel/think and when you die your "soul" is gone... but at least if you reproduce you can pass on a bit to the next one...
when I picture soul though I still think of that green light when Shang Tsung takes it in Mortal Kombat 2.

We got to heaven if we're good or hell if we're bad.

I don't get how anyone can believe that we don't have souls, though. What determines our originality? Chemicals and the brain? No. There's more to life than just a few elements tossed in with chemicals and water.

[quote=StiKman19]Humanity is way more important than souls anwyay.[/quote]

This guy has the right idea. Souls can help you level up, but humanity makes your weapons stronger, make you able able to reverse hollowing, and make it so you can kindle bonfires.

Not to mention the humanities are actually the pieces of the Dark Soul. muahuahua.

I believe you die, your soul would leave your body to venture the world or the universe with only thought

@MagicFrappe: and our souls gather information from all the lives they go through so the more you're reborn the "better" or more experienced your soul is.
At least I'd like to think that cause to imagine that all the knowledge people gather just vanishes in a void is kind of sad..

[quote=Nashi]Oh dear god at first I thought this is a Thread about Gingers..

OT: I can't quite tell ya what souls are for me but they're like little information-storages and they're reborn in a new body after we die.[/quote]

That is such an adorable way of describing it!

I think of it this way.... Our bodies are like shells, and although we have a brain that helps us function, our souls are who we are, like our personalitite and such.
That's just my opinion though.

Oh dear god at first I thought this is a Thread about Gingers..

OT: I can't quite tell ya what souls are for me but they're like little information-storages and they're reborn in a new body after we die.

9 spirits, 3 souls, that's all for now.

@pistolkiss: No way. Farming souls is way easier, when I farm humanity I have to deal with skeleton babies.

No, we do not have souls.

[quote=StiKman19]Humanity is way more important than souls anwyay.[/quote]

I think those go hand in hand.

Humanity is way more important than souls anwyay.

I feel like you are your soul. Like your soul is who you are, really. All the parts of you that no one else sees or understands except you. Your good side, your evil side.
Your body is nothing but a vessel to hold it. And when it dies, I think your soul will go on. But I don't know where.
Just the way I look at it.

Oddly enough.. I had a dream where I had a demon as a mother and as soon as I stopped her one day while she was came home from work.. I ask her, "Wait a minute.. you don't have a soul do you?" and she started bursting out into tears.. I felt bad.

OT: I think a soul is a nice way to make ourselves feel better about dying. I think a soul is also used to describe a way to distinguish us from other animals in this world.. it doesn't have to be a legitimate idea, or concept but just something to distinguish us.