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Steal Skill Help

Hey I was wondering which skill is better to use for skill steal: SE or Dark Harmony. Also I see bossing videos of phantoms using rapid fire, is miles aquies slower than the other skills like rapid fire, isris ring, hurricane and so on?
Also if I could get a p/c for impecable memory 20 that would be awesome haha

November 5, 2012

7 Comments • Newest first

lansh

Rapid fire is actually faster when factoring noir carte. And SE is probably better.

Reply November 6, 2012 - edited
bubblecup118

Def not Dark Harmony, it only gives +40 att

Reply November 6, 2012 - edited
ZeroLich

That clears things up, thanks

Reply November 6, 2012 - edited
Masterobert

[url=http://i.imgur.com/eYf2D.png]Here are my stolen skills.[/url]
I also sometimes use Advanced Blessing instead of Rapid Fire for party reasons.
Also, Impeccable Memory IV 20 is around 80 to 100m in my world.

Reply November 6, 2012 - edited
Wubzey

[quote=PhantomEreve]if you like to party SE is useful, DH only increases ur own att and does not include the pdr passive of the skill. Rapid Fire hits slower then ishtars ring, hurricane is slower and weaker the the previous 2, Rapid fire does alot of damage and ishtars ring cannot be stolen, its a mercedes skill not adventurer. Mille does less damage but is slightly faster than rapid fire. mille is designed to produce noir carte over damage (at least thats how i see it)[/quote]
Actually, rapid fire and hurricane are both the same speed (120ms) and hit 8.333 times per second. Rapid fire just has a higher %dmg so that's why most people steal it.

As for Mille, it has a delay of 180 ms and hits twice per cast. This makes it 5.555 casts per second so 11.110 hits+ 5.5 carte noires for a total of 16.66hits per second.
Rapid fire does 8.333 hits per second and 8.333 carte noires assuming 100% critical. So 16.666 hits per second.
As you can see rapid-fire actually hits the same amount of times when you have 100% crit when using each skill.

EDIT: phantoms also use Mille because it can mob which is useful for most bosses.

Reply November 6, 2012 - edited
ZeroLich

its just in these videos I see them using rapid fire, while their miles still hits max damage so I dont really see the point. Thats max damage on bosses.
But thank you thats very helpfull as far as I'm concerned, since my phantom is no where near max damage haha

Reply November 5, 2012 - edited
PhantomEreve

if you like to party SE is useful, DH only increases ur own att and does not include the pdr passive of the skill. Rapid Fire hits slower then ishtars ring, hurricane is slower and weaker the the previous 2, Rapid fire does alot of damage and ishtars ring cannot be stolen, its a mercedes skill not adventurer. Mille does less damage but is slightly faster than rapid fire. mille is designed to produce noir carte over damage (at least thats how i see it)

Reply November 5, 2012 - edited